willbgood
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How ironic that someone with a user name brilliant would make this statement...
If we all used your brilliant logic, no one would lift, or develop anything, for our 4runners
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What is the best replcement lower ball joint
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How ironic that someone with a user name brilliant would make this statement...
If we all used your brilliant logic, no one would lift, or develop anything, for our 4runners
yota_addict
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If not OEM then 555. I learned after working on my Landcruiser FJ60 if you have to sub OEM then do 555 which are usually same as OEM. I did 555 LBJ and OTRE. Don't get any other if safety is a concern.
ShooterMcGavin
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After researching the Tacoma LBJ replacement (a while back), be aware that many people report losing some of their turning radius. Still, it could be a great option for a tougher joint; I don't know all the details.
Everything wears out eventually! I've never had a failure, but I can tell you that the LBJs I replaced as a preventative measure after 300000 kms were in better shape when I replaced them than the aftermarket ones I took off after 15000 kms of use. And mine isn't even lifted.
Brilliant
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I don't think it's ironic, its about 180 from ironic.My comment was on the logic or lack thereof.
Simple fact is pointing to a 3 year warranty as some measure of goodness is foolish. The warranty is a replacement part warranty. Offering anew lbj after your truck is rolled or after your fender is taken out is meaningless. We all know 10000s of 4runners run around on oem lbjs for 150k+ without issue. We know AM suspension parts are spotty and this isn't a good place to experiment by your own admission.
PS: my 4runner has a lift and AM parts on it.
JayRolla
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Taco parts never proven to last longer and large loss of turning radius. Not worth it. People have stated 3 point turns when flipping u turns is not fun. Really noticeable on the trail.
rideexileex
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Moog joints and replace every 3k miles, ha
averyislost
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I just replaced mine with OEM 4runner LBJ's.
Honestly the price was within like 15 bucks between OEM joints from Camelback Toyota and the mid-level parts from NAPA
Honestly the price was within like 15 bucks between OEM joints from Camelback Toyota and the mid-level parts from NAPA
white_n_slow
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To the OP: You read a lot of threads on this forum about the OEM LBJ failing and draw a conclusion that OEM must not be the best one. I see where you're going with this, but I think the logic is flawed.
Just consider what the average mileage of those failures might be. 150K? 200k? And then think about the hundreds of thousands of people who don't live on the interwebs and daily drive their 4Runners into the ground never knowing that the OEM LBJ's should be replaced. Probably thousands of 250k trucks still going on the ones that came from the factory. I think that thought alone is testament to the quality of the Toyota LBJ.
The reason they fail is a design flaw of the front suspension, not necessarily a problem with the part. I would expect failure rate to be much higher with aftermarket LBJ's, you just don't hear about it as much because A) so many people are still rocking their stockers and B) Aftermarket parts cumulatively have fewer miles since by definition, they haven't been on the truck as long, C) people who are posting their LBJ failure experience on forums already know you shouldn't be putting NAPA lbj's on in the first place. If there were some way to take a poll of the non-enthusiast or non-forum-frequenting population's LBJ failures, I think you'd find that aftermarkets are just as bad or worse.
Just consider what the average mileage of those failures might be. 150K? 200k? And then think about the hundreds of thousands of people who don't live on the interwebs and daily drive their 4Runners into the ground never knowing that the OEM LBJ's should be replaced. Probably thousands of 250k trucks still going on the ones that came from the factory. I think that thought alone is testament to the quality of the Toyota LBJ.
The reason they fail is a design flaw of the front suspension, not necessarily a problem with the part. I would expect failure rate to be much higher with aftermarket LBJ's, you just don't hear about it as much because A) so many people are still rocking their stockers and B) Aftermarket parts cumulatively have fewer miles since by definition, they haven't been on the truck as long, C) people who are posting their LBJ failure experience on forums already know you shouldn't be putting NAPA lbj's on in the first place. If there were some way to take a poll of the non-enthusiast or non-forum-frequenting population's LBJ failures, I think you'd find that aftermarkets are just as bad or worse.
willbgood
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To focus on the fact that I listed warranty information, and ignore the fact that I am looking for info on the best parts, and specifically why they are the best, does indicate brilliance. Pointing out as was done, a fallacy of correlation I made, IE a warranty on this part is like depending on a warranty on a armored vest, that is brilliance, and humorous, although it does not cover the original question.
This is a forum, a place to gather and share information. Forums have made the world more efficient, and our lives more efficient and better for it. Coming here I can learn from others knowledge, mistakes, and successes, and I can share some of my own. Unfortunately sometimes you cannot locate the information you seek, so repost on a topic already covered. or covered in locations that make it hard to locate. I of course have been online since you could get online, so I expect the sound to noise ratio to be high.
Stating that a thread should be shut down, because someone has either repeated a topic, made a stupid statement, (in your opinion,) or made a fallacy of correlation, is not brilliant, it is mediocre. It is the epitome of flame, which is sound and all noise, and of useless utility.
willbgood
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Agreed, it clearly was a fallacy of correlation on my part. After spending hours here and on other forums, I have come to the conclusion the OE Toyota parts are the best option at this point. I should have realized this just based upon the fact that I can not find ball joints on any of the aftermarket off road equipment web sites. Thanks for the input.
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