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cj80cruiser
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Yeah, your gona have a hard time finding that size for a 17. Interco makes a few options and I believe you can get a bfg km2 in a similar size to the 255/85r16 for a 17.
Search on a few dually forums but I personally recommend a d rated tire if you can find it.
Does the tread width vary with the tires in a predictable way? I like it where it has a nice crisp 90 deg angle to the edge of the tread straight down to the wheel edge versus a tread that is too slim for the wheel edge and the sidewalls bulge. I wonder if they sell 255/85/r17 with the BFG T/A KO
cj80cruiser
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A good starting point would be a 255/80r17 I believe.
elcidsurfer
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I dont believe bfg sells the AT in the 255/85/17 but they do sell one in 33x9.5r15 if you are willing to change wheel sizes.
That is not good news. And actually the km2s have sort of a rounded overall shape that even in that size still look like donuts instead of having that night sharp sidewall profile so it wouldn't be helpful anyway!
cj80cruiser
Senior Member
Look at these.
1)Bfg km2
2) Interco SS-m16
That's about all I could find. Use the wheel converter link in my sig line to see how they will fit your wheels.
1)Bfg km2
2) Interco SS-m16
That's about all I could find. Use the wheel converter link in my sig line to see how they will fit your wheels.
rebelbowtie
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Interco makes 33x10 or 9 iirc, but I have owned KM2's in the 255/85/16 flavor and loved them! Wouldn't hesitate to run them again.
True, but I still think they are one of the nicest looking tires. I've heard they perform quite well considering they work on the roads as well as offroad. Nicely rounded for those who don't own an offroad only rig.
I wanted to run them, but that would force me into getting winter wheels. I still might. I am going to test some 285 Treadwrights after hours of research but at least with this cost I can afford the second set of tires!
Treadwrights 285/75/16 = $625
KM2's 255/85/16 = $964
Other A/T and M/T Tires = $1100+
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I too was thinking about those treadwrights. My primary concern is that I want a set with the BF t/a sidewalls with intact white lettering since I also like the whitewall look. I suppose I should look in to "restoring" worn whitewall lettering if they arrived faded or worn.
I have a new set of bf long trail's that came w the truck on stock wheels so the main reason for the upgrade will be the sweet wheel and tire combo to go with the lift and I want an all around setup more than my stock wheels and tires for winter and mud terrains for summer only...sigh.
I have a new set of bf long trail's that came w the truck on stock wheels so the main reason for the upgrade will be the sweet wheel and tire combo to go with the lift and I want an all around setup more than my stock wheels and tires for winter and mud terrains for summer only...sigh.
rebelbowtie
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Why treadwrightsv
They're really popular on the forums yet every thread I've read talks of horrible customer service.
I just cannot for the life of me pay money to put my family an others in danger like that. Treadwright offers no guarantee that the tire carcass they use isn't 3-5 years old or even older. Honestly how they can get away with this is beyond me since normal reputable tire companies cannot sell tires that are that old because of safety concerns.
I have seen "brand new" treadgrights with dry rot on them and cracks in between the treads. Multiple catastrophic tire failure and numerous complaints about the tire not being able to be balanced.
So I ask, what other item influences your control over a vehicle moreso than a set of tires? Don't cheap out on your safety...
They're really popular on the forums yet every thread I've read talks of horrible customer service.
I just cannot for the life of me pay money to put my family an others in danger like that. Treadwright offers no guarantee that the tire carcass they use isn't 3-5 years old or even older. Honestly how they can get away with this is beyond me since normal reputable tire companies cannot sell tires that are that old because of safety concerns.
I have seen "brand new" treadgrights with dry rot on them and cracks in between the treads. Multiple catastrophic tire failure and numerous complaints about the tire not being able to be balanced.
So I ask, what other item influences your control over a vehicle moreso than a set of tires? Don't cheap out on your safety...
Yea there is that too. My father was just now making the same argument. He used to run a freight hub and saw much of the process associated with long term tire use on a variety of trucks and he was vehemently opposed to using retreads on a vehicle without redundancy to protect from catastrophic failure in the event of a blowout. Unfortunately I think the combination of your arguments soured me to saving hundreds of dollars...
My own personal preference. I believe I'll be 100% safe.
1) Your review is shockingly different then my experience researching them. I've read for no lie probably 8 hours and have only found ONE case where they complained about customer service. In that case, even after a bit of run-around the person received a full set of new tires and they admitted to their customer service being great, but he didn't like the run-around he was asked to do.
2) I've only heard of two failures. One of which the guy couldn't even mention the pressure he was running, and the other one was under severe load and aired down for long, high speed sections. Keep in mind blowouts on NEW tires aren't that uncommon either.
3) People mention tread wear issues were obvious user errors and not tire errors. Ie, the tire wears on the inside because of vehicle set-up, not tire.
4) Retreads of old design are just that. Old technology. You can't compare the old tractor tires to today's methods.
5) Do your own research. It's overwhelmingly positive. Don't take somebody's word. Read for 10 minutes and you'll have enough info to evaluate the previous post.
6) Balancing issues are often resolved with following the paperwork provided with the tires. They ask them to be statically balanced. You can do your own research, or feel free to call Treadright for their explanation on this. Many cases, when done properly use very little weight. Now research another tire, the Duratrac, AT, etc. You'll see there are balance issues across the board.
For the other poster, the white lettering is repainted on the wheels. They look like brand new tires when you get them.
If people want I'll take pictures of mine, but I have asked for no white lettering. Not sure if they will only do the one side (as is customary with new wheels), or leave the faded appearance on the other. In my opinion, I don't like white letters and always run non-white on the outside.
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rebelbowtie
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No matter what you say or anyone else says you cannot argue against the facts. It's an old ass carcass, I don't care how "new" the tread is you're still rolling on a tire that can be any age at all with no guarantee how old it is.
Do some research on the shelf life of a tire carcass. If you can't go buy a brand new ne'er been driven on tire off the shelf that happens to be a few years old. Why can you buy a retread tire with an even older carcass?
Do some research on the shelf life of a tire carcass. If you can't go buy a brand new ne'er been driven on tire off the shelf that happens to be a few years old. Why can you buy a retread tire with an even older carcass?
These are both valid posts that point to the underlying question of why old carcasses were banned in new tire sales. Without that answer it is hard to move forward. Perhaps the old carcass ban was enacted by actuaries who saw a higher failure rate resulting in higher replAcemwnt cost, or maybe it was a regulatory oversight mandate for safety reasons backed by failure characteristics, or maybe it was a financial decision for non-performance issues. Anyone know the real answer? And let's say hypothetically that treadwright would sell you a <3 yr old matching set of retreads, how would you feel then? Is there a mechanism for identifying the age of the carcass?
It seems from my research that the customer service from treadwright consists of a lot of free replacements. It reminds me of the ddm his kit replacements that you can get no hassle, and that seem to occur frequently. Perhaps the profit margin is high enough that replacements no questions asked are better still than changing the manufacturing process to reduce customer complaints. I suspect they have a low overhead to be able to afford to do this relative to the selling price?
It seems from my research that the customer service from treadwright consists of a lot of free replacements. It reminds me of the ddm his kit replacements that you can get no hassle, and that seem to occur frequently. Perhaps the profit margin is high enough that replacements no questions asked are better still than changing the manufacturing process to reduce customer complaints. I suspect they have a low overhead to be able to afford to do this relative to the selling price?
It also raises the question of the following common conception, "The tire carcass has a much longer life than the outside tread surfaces, mainly because it is protected from the elements by the tread. Therefore, the real shelf-life limited component of the tire is the tread and it's loss of predictable traction."
