Who is running BFG AT/KO's on their 03 and up 4runners?

[Mr. Lambdebois]

My dilema is that from what I can tell they are not made in a 265/65/17 size

I would like to keep the overall diameter the same but may consider the 265/70/17's if I can get confimation they will fit without any rubbing.

What have you guys done.

These tires served me well up in the mountains on my explorer and I was sad when I saw the are not offered on the 265/65/17 size

Anyone running 245/65/17's on theirs.

I had 235/75/15's on my explorer and they cut through the snow great while my friend with a 2nd gen 4runner had the same tires in a 31x10.5 and his floated/skidded more instead of cuting through to the surface.

I may try and contact BFG to see if there is a reason they are not offered and if they plan on making them in the future.

 

[JB.]

My dilema is that from what I can tell they are not made in a 265/65/17 size

I would like to keep the overall diameter the same but may consider the 265/70/17's if I can get confimation they will fit without any rubbing.

I'm using 265/70/17 KOs on my 05 with no rubbing. One tiny side benefit of the upsize is the 6% total odometer underreport (part of that 6% is stock) makes the computer mpg readout a lot closer to reality.

 

[Mr. Lambdebois]

Re: Re: Who is running BFG AT/KO's on their 03 and up 4runners?

I'm using 265/70/17 KOs on my 05 with no rubbing. One tiny side benefit of the upsize is the 6% total odometer underreport (part of that 6% is stock) makes the computer mpg readout a lot closer to reality.

Thanks for the clarification. I appreaciate it.

I really didn't want to change the overall diameter but I may have to if I want to get some bfg at/ko's on.

I just emails bfg to see if they had any plans in the future to make the 265/65/17 size or if there was a reason it is not offered.

We'll see what they say.....

 

[holzapfel]

I'm using 265/70/17 KOs on my 05 with no rubbing as well, no noticable change in MPH. My work has one of those displays that shows your MPH, when I go 20, my guages read exactly 20...

 

[viper4evr2001]

im running the same bfg ko on my 03' v6 no rubing, but i did notice a slight drop in power for about 3000 miles or so but, now their fine. great tires by the way, well worth the 600$

 

[alpha]

I'm using 265/70/17 KOs on my 05 with no rubbing as well, no noticable change in MPH. My work has one of those displays that shows your MPH, when I go 20, my guages read exactly 20...

that's funny. there's a couple of those around school, and one around home, and all three report a 2mph difference from what the speedo says. and i still have the stock duelers..

 

[AlexJet]

I was talking about BFG A/T KO tire with one of the guys on the trail this morning and he told me that first season they are nice and grippy, but after 10-15k they start loosing control. He doesn't know why, but this is his second set of those tires. Here in Canada we have icy and snowing roads for 4 month a year and this is an issue with all year around tires.

 

[Mr. Lambdebois]

I was talking about BFG A/T KO tire with one of the guys on the trail this morning and he told me that first season they are nice and grippy, but after 10-15k they start loosing control. He doesn't know why, but this is his second set of those tires. Here in Canada we have icy and snowing roads for 4 month a year and this is an issue with all year around tires.

Hmm very interesting.

I had two sets on my explorer and while they did lose some grip as they lost there tread they still griped pretty darn well even after 30k miles. IMO still much better than any R/T.Keep in mind the second winter season they saw was in Leadville, Colorado and other summit county areas 10+ft in elevation in some places so they got their fair share of snow as well. One differance may of been that I was running a thin 235/75/15 and they cut to the road a lot better than my buddy who had a 3rd ger 4runner with 31x10.5 bfg AT/KO's. He would float on the snow more and slip around. What size did you buddy run if you remember?


I lived way up on a mountain. The pavement ended 3 miles before the house and after a good snow the only way to see and stay on the road was to follow a previous path on a gps. Other wise you would be guessing untill you felt the vehicle drop down as it went of the road.

Either way I really want to put an AT tire that also meets the severe snow requirement. I would prefer the stock 265/65/17 size but it looks like im sol from what I can tell.

I havent heard back from bfg yet.....

I may have to go with some 265/70/17 even though I was trying to avoid that.

It seems my other option is to get some 16 inch rims. There are a few tires in the 265/70/16 that meet my requirments of an AT and meeting the severe snow requirment. I would get more side wall protection and they tires would cost less.

What is the width and offset of the 16 inch rim. Any sugestions on a cheap rim that still looks okay and that will clear the calipers.

At $200 a pop for the oem 16" ones they are more than I want to spend for a set and then but tires for them.

 

[Bluto]

265/70/17 and 265/65/17 are the section width. The 70 will give you more ground clearance, which is good in deep snow.

The section width is only 3 cm wider than 235. Your 4Runner is probably much heavier than your Explorer or the 2nd gen. The extra weight will sink/cut more.


I don't know of a 16" rim that fits over the Sport/Limited brakes.

 

[Mr. Lambdebois]

265/70/17 and 265/65/17 are the section width. The 70 will give you more ground clearance, which is good in deep snow.

The section width is only 3 cm wider than 235. Your 4Runner is probably much heavier than your Explorer or the 2nd gen. The extra weight will sink/cut more.


I don't know of a 16" rim that fits over the Sport/Limited brakes.

The only problem with going to a taller tire is the speedo change and everything else it effects. I kinda wanted to avoid this but it may be the most cost effective way to get a good tire.

Oh and I have the SR5 model with the optional 17's. The standard 16's should clear the calipers on the SR5 model if I am not mistaken.

I wanted the standard 16's for cheaper tire prices, more sidewall, and more tire options. The dealor would have swaped them for me but of course all the models they had, had been ordered with the optional 17"s

I may try and find a set of some cheap 16 inch steel wheels if they will clear the calipers? This way I can just bolt them on with the tires already mounted and keep the original wheels and tires for the time I spend on the highway.

Thanks for the advice.

John

What are the specs for the oem standard 16" wheels on the 06 SR5's? 16x ? offset?

 

[Mr. Lambdebois]

The section width is only 3 cm wider than 235. Your 4Runner is probably much heavier than your Explorer or the 2nd gen. The extra weight will sink/cut more.

I assumed the explorer was heavier. Isn't the 4runner around 4,500lbs

Now I'm curious... I had a 98 awd with the 5.0l engine.
Now I have to go look it up....

John

 

[Bluto]

The only problem with going to a taller tire is the speedo change and everything else it effects. I kinda wanted to avoid this but it may be the most cost effective way to get a good tire.

Oh and I have the SR5 model with the optional 17's. The standard 16's should clear the calipers on the SR5 model if I am not mistaken.

I wanted the standard 16's for cheaper tire prices, more sidewall, and more tire options. The dealor would have swaped them for me but of course all the models they had, had been ordered with the optional 17"s

I may try and find a set of some cheap 16 inch steel wheels if they will clear the calipers? This way I can just bolt them on with the tires already mounted and keep the original wheels and tires for the time I spend on the highway.

Thanks for the advice.

John

What are the specs for the oem standard 16" wheels on the 06 SR5's? 16x ? offset?

I think some members are running 16" steel wheels with snow tires. You could probably get a steel wheel and snow tire package cheapers than a set of KOs. Would that be an option? Assuming a snow tire is better than a KO in the snow.


The speedo change = longer warranty.


I think the Explorer was 4166 lbs., if I picked the right model.

 

[the_josh]

i have bfg at/ta 285/70/17 on the stock sport wheels and i just have a little bit of rubbing with the mud flaps and about a 3mph difference with the speedo accuracy

 

[Falls]

I've had alot of BFG AT's on my truck's/SUV's over the years. They are a great tire and great looking tire....however IMO as time goes on traction will be less (naturally) and the ride does get harsher. When I get my 4R I will most likely go for the BFG AT 265/70/17, BUT because of the traction and ride quality as they got older and worn out , I would like to check into the Bridgestone Dueller Revo AT's. They are supposed to provide good traction throughout the life of the tire because they make the tire with softer compound as it wear's to keep ride quality and traction as it's best. I'm not to sure about that because even if the compound is softer as the tire wears (which would help ride quality ) there is still a shallower tread depth which ultimately is what give's you the traction . I'm not sure how they compare in price. I the the BS Revo's are cheaper than BFG's.

It also depend's on your need's in a tire and if you off road at all and what type of climate you live in/drive in most of the time. I've honestly over the year's have probably had 20 set's of BFG's and they have NEVER let me down. My uncle was also VP of BFG for many year's and I could get just fantastic deal's on tire's , but he has since retired....damn !!

There is a poll somewhere on here on what people are running. Good luck and keep us posted.

 

[Mr. Lambdebois]

I think some members are running 16" steel wheels with snow tires. You could probably get a steel wheel and snow tire package cheapers than a set of KOs. Would that be an option?

Good info. I would want an good AT tire that also meets the severe snow requirement. I know I'm picky. I do a lot of back country fishing and camping also.

Assuming a snow tire is better than a KO in the snow.

I don't know. I do know that the bfgs were a true AT tire and met the severe snow requirent. They did great for me in my explorer.
Bfg did email me back and say they have no plan to make the 265/65/17 size anytime soon with no explanation why or if they was a specific reason.

What other 4x4 vehicle have oems tires in this size? Surely ther are a few others.....

The speedo change = longer warranty.

:awais: True. You forgot the extra inch of ground clearance if im not mistaken...

I think the Explorer was 4166 lbs., if I picked the right model.

98 5.0L V8 xlt awd. Was that the right one? I never got around to looking it up.

That suprised me my pig cobra vert weighed around 3800lbs.
Interesting....

 

[Mr. Lambdebois]

When I get my 4R I will most likely go for the BFG AT 265/70/17, BUT because of the traction and ride quality as they got older and worn out , I would like to check into the Bridgestone Dueller Revo AT's.

I was looking at those as well. They come in the 265/65/17 if im not mistaken and even though they are not severe snow rated the would have to do better than the dunlops on now.

 

[Mr. Lambdebois]

It also depend's on your need's in a tire and if you off road at all and what type of climate you live in/drive in most of the time. I've honestly over the year's have probably had 20 set's of BFG's and they have NEVER let me down.

Well..... I average about 30k miles a year. I drive plenty on the highway and paved roads. I also spent as much time as possible up in the mountains were "chain laws in effect" after a snow are normal. I also do plenty of fishing and camping on old logging trails and non existant roads. When I am down in florida I see sand on the beaches and ocasionally mud out in the everglades.

The bfgs never let me down either. I wouldn't even hesitate to give them my bussiness again if they offered the oem size.

 

[JB.]

Well..... I average about 30k miles a year. I drive plenty on the highway and paved roads. I also spent as much time as possible up in the mountains were "chain laws in effect" after a snow are normal. I also do plenty of fishing and camping on old logging trails and non existant roads. When I am down in florida I see sand on the beaches and ocasionally mud out in the everglades.

The bfgs never let me down either. I wouldn't even hesitate to give them my bussiness again if they offered the oem size.

Yeah, if you're gonna be out in the sticks a lot and in a lot of snow you gotta go for the L/T and the snowflake.

 

[Mr. Lambdebois]

Yeah, if you're gonna be out in the sticks a lot and in a lot of snow you gotta go for the L/T and the snowflake.

265/65/17 is pretty close to a 31x10.5

A 265/65/17 is a 30.6x10.4.

If I can find a 31x10.5 A/T with the snowflake that will fit a 17inch wheel it may be an option.

the 31.6x10.4 is what the 265/70/17 would be if im not mistaken.

I'm thinking the 31x10.5's would be a good way to go if I can find one for a 17 inch wheel that is AT and has the snowflake.

Now I have to see if any are offered for a 17 inch rim....

 

[Mr. Lambdebois]

well my search for a 31x10.5 for a 17 inch wheel came up empty.

It seems I may have to go with the 265/70/17 to get a AT with a snowflake.



I can't believe ther isn't an oem size A/T with a snowflake mountain symbol for our 4 runner's with the 17's?

Is it because there is not enough side wall with a 65 tire?

I thought other 4x4's suvs are using this size. I would think there would be a market for the 265/65/17's.

I'm not in too much of a rush as I'm down in florida for about another 4 monthes but I need to figure out something for when I head back north. The AT's looked and performed wonderful on my explorer for me and I would love to put them on an even more potentially capable suv if it at least had the right tires.

I also want the severe snow rating on an A/T tire so If my wife has to drive a pass in the mountains to get somewhere on an a snow storm is moving in.... I can say "Here honey, Take my suv."
And feel much better about her safety.

Thanks for the advice guys. I appreaciate it.
If anyone knows any other option that may work or tires I may be overlooking please feel free to point me in that direction.

:driving:

John