2003Can4runner
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Is it just for durability so the shocks don't bottom out and destroy themselves? I've never really understood why the "offroad" package in trucks have a rougher ride.
Why does a suspension designed for offroad have to be rougher?
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CJ3Flyr
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IMHO it's about the definition of off-road. The stiffer springs and shocks are the better way to go for off-road Ivan Stewart style. Most off-road packages seem to be geared to higher speed, dessert driving not slow crawling. Most of us don't try to blast along like we stole it. Most seem to take it pretty easy and do most of our wheelin at or below 30mph.
I'd be in the 30 MPH and lower group too CJ. Are there any coilover's you or others might recommend as better for casual speeds, and closer to the original T4R suspension? Specifically I'm interested in the Toytc Ultimate...anyone familar with the ride type and quality on them?
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CJ3Flyr
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I don't know a lot about the coilovers beyond they ride much better than a spacer lifted stock set-up when driven hard. Perhaps BlairB or Josh (HB 4x4) will chime in. I do know the new Overland/Radflo setup is pretty cool sounding to me... It sounds like it's very "ride quality" oriented.
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techno
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No, thats what bump stops are for. Shocks should never bottom out, or top out either. Struts however are designed to top out, they have their own built in bump stop.
I find stiffer suspension better off road from a control point of view, especially the rebound. Soft, road style set ups end up way to bouncy and body roll becomes excessive. If the truck is still bouncing from one bump when it hits another, things can get pretty crazy and hard to control, and usually results in bumpers and rocker panels eating some dirt.
That was a long read, but very interesting CJ, thanks. The big question was it appears they designed things with the idea they'd be used by people with aftermarket bumpers, winches, and a couple hundred pound load of goodies. The only one of those I might conceivably have would be a winch. Even the plan will probably be to just have it in the back and put it in a front mounted hitch, on the rare occasions it would be needed.
I'd like to talk to them about things, because I'm going to be running pretty much stock for the most part. Thanks again.
fourwd1
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Another factor (esp for leaf springs) is how they're built and how much you want to pay. You can get an Old Man Emu suspension that will ride and handle better than the day you bought the truck, but they're pricey. Or you can get a $200 Pro-Comp suspension that is so harsh you will feel every cigarette butt and bottle cap in the road.
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