Why not 255/85/16?

[PhdNPrerunners]

you say its a "proven fact" do you have any documents to back that up ????

Have you ever wondered why all or most all of the pro teams, that have access to "any" tire, run wider tires ?

Click on the link I posted earlier

 

[hulk311]

Nope! Went with the 285's. Thing is they look narrower and are taller then most 33's. They are somewhere between 285s and 255's, but I think they are as tall as 255's, or close to it.

I measured them on the vehicle with 35PSI and they are 33". Considering tire squish they must be 33.5's at least I would think off the vehicle.

Which treadwright tire did you go with? Warden? Backbone or MudGuard? And in "D" or "E"? It's shame that treadwright does not have any 33" 255s! :ybrick:

 

[Nunyabiz]

you say its a "proven fact" do you have any documents to back that up ????

Have you ever wondered why all or most all of the pro teams, that have access to "any" tire, run wider tires ?

mmmm maybe because they are running a vehicle that weighs only 2000lbs with over 600 hp.

 

[hulk311]

I love that tire size!!

I have 255/85 Cooper Discoverer ST and very happy!!

With 255/85 the drivetrain suffer much less ( cvs, steering wheel, etc ), the rig feels lighter, lighter drivetrain, etc.

Dous, you'll never regret having them!!

Note: I think 255/85 Toyo is the tallest tires of all brands ( in 255/85 of course ) and I also think they wear faster than km2.

Cheers

Yeah but hardly anyone makes 255s in 33"! You can get treadwright 33" 285s for like $113 a piece. 255s will run you like $180 a piece. Huge difference there. Also, the tires you have make a loud "wah-wah-wah-wah" noise when driving, more so on the highway. The way I see it, fellas, get some treadwright 33" 285s for offroading and some Michelin LTX M/S2 for the 90% of the time the truck is used on road! You win both ways. A nice rolling tire for the road and a nice offroading tire when you need it.

 

[PhdNPrerunners]

Yeah but hardly anyone makes 255s in 33"! You can get treadwright 33" 285s for like $113 a piece. 255s will run you like $180 a piece. Huge difference there. Also, the tires you have make a loud "wah-wah-wah-wah" noise when driving, more so on the highway. The way I see it, fellas, get some treadwright 33" 285s for offroading and some Michelin LTX M/S2 for the 90% of the time the truck is used on road! You win both ways. A nice rolling tire for the road and a nice offroading tire when you need it.

If you have 17" wheels treadwright makes a 255/75/17 for $108 a piece

 

[FrankM23]

Dous the only reason I'd be skeptical about getting KM2's is the weak sidewall. I know J-money$$$ and Mr.Leary had this problem. Specifically Mr.Leary who had 255/85's. Toyos will be way quieter than KM2's.

 

[DeTwizzle]

I've been running the 255 bighorns for about 40k now, and I do gotta say that they are a pretty sweet tire. They do well on rocky/gravely trails... not sure about mud. I stay away from that snhit like crack. Ask tr4life... he knows what I mean. They are easier on the vehicles suspension and gas mileage... but the one think I hate is.... they tend to want to slide off rocks in a perpendicular direction of tire spin when off camber. It is the low tire pressure, skinnyness of the tire, and camber on loose granite that causes it.... I'm going to 285 for my next tire.:gun5:

 

[hulk311]

If you have 17" wheels treadwright makes a 255/75/17 for $108 a piece

True. It's a 32.2" tire though, the 285 version is a full inch taller at 33.2! Not sure if that would make a difference or not? What do you guys think?

 

[DeTwizzle]

Proportionally a 255 should fall at 33.1 to 33.3in~ tall.

 

[04rnr]

Click on the link I posted earlier

I did miss that, (sorry) but thats not proof, its thier opinion... I think most thats been wheeling for any amount of time, has seen that article, but IMHO its not "fact" just cause someone posted a blog or made a website, doesnt mean its "fact"
I personaly have wheeled with guys running the skinny tires, we had the exact same rig, minus the tires, on the same trail, one after the other, and where the skinny tires slip/spun, the wider tires always do better on the rocks, but that being said, its not "fact" either.
What it comes down to, is the owners choice, none of us are being paid to wheel, if so please let me know how I get a job lol
:roadkill:

 

[04rnr]

here is recommendation to the OP, find out what other wheelers in your area are running, what do they like for the terrain that you will be wheeling, what tires dont they like, just an idea

 

[Dous]

you say its a "proven fact" do you have any documents to back that up ????

Have you ever wondered why all or most all of the pro teams, that have access to "any" tire, run wider tires ?

Do what you want, but I have seen how the tires compare on the same obstacles and it was clear to me which one I would rather have.

In my opinion the pros make it a clear choice.

 

[Dous]

here is recommendation to the OP, find out what other wheelers in your area are running, what do they like for the terrain that you will be wheeling, what tires dont they like, just an idea

If I did that I would be running 39" Thornbirds on a 6" drop bracket

So no, I have plenty of experience in the area and have been beating on these 4runners for long enough to know what I want. I am getting sick of breaking front end components by having big, wide, heavy tires.

So I will give the 255's a shot, if they are no good, well I will know next time

 

[Shibby!]

Which treadwright tire did you go with? Warden? Backbone or MudGuard? And in "D" or "E"? It's shame that treadwright does not have any 33" 255s! :ybrick:

Gaurdog's in D rating. Yokohoma Geolander AT/S cases. Not my first option, but only option that met my deadline. I like the look of the tire with them and because they aren't a common tire nobody has come up to me and said that's the wrong tread for that tire! haha. Not that I would care, but most people get pretty freaked when I say re-treaded. I'm not worried.

With a LC/TRD lift with Tundra Billies and LC Tokico's in the rear, the ride is still quite firm when not loaded down (35PSI). A bit too firm, but once I have trail gear or camping gear it's a lot smoother. Keep in mind I'm pretty fussy and understand most lift kits ride much worse =)

 

[04rnr]

If I did that I would be running 39" Thornbirds on a 6" drop bracket

So no, I have plenty of experience in the area and have been beating on these 4runners for long enough to know what I want. I am getting sick of breaking front end components by having big, wide, heavy tires.

So I will give the 255's a shot, if they are no good, well I will know next time

I wheel pretty hard, on 7-9 rated trails, only snapped a CV about 3 times in 6 years, wheeling almost every weekend, so Im not sure what you are breaking, or why, I do know guys that are breaking CVs about once a month, they are also running 33s (285s) same as me but I always say, Its your money, your rig, do what you want, I know what works for me and where I wheel, Ill stick with what works here.
you like skinny tires, I like wide tires, lets just wheel arty:

 

[MDST]

If I did that I would be running 39" Thornbirds on a 6" drop bracket

So no, I have plenty of experience in the area and have been beating on these 4runners for long enough to know what I want. I am getting sick of breaking front end components by having big, wide, heavy tires.

So I will give the 255's a shot, if they are no good, well I will know next time

Good choice Dous!

Now we just need the big picture with the 255/85 :hungry:

 

[KidVermicious]

more rubber contact on the rocks, generaly means better grip. :cheers:

It doesn't always, though. Consider that the more rubber you have on the rock, the less PSI you've got on any given section of tread pushing it to deform into the rock.

 

[rebelbowtie]

If I did that I would be running 39" Thornbirds on a 6" drop bracket

So no, I have plenty of experience in the area and have been beating on these 4runners for long enough to know what I want. I am getting sick of breaking front end components by having big, wide, heavy tires.

So I will give the 255's a shot, if they are no good, well I will know next time

The fact that you have mentioned thornbirds twice makes me question how much you really know about what makes a good offroad tire.

 

[rebelbowtie]

Dous the only reason I'd be skeptical about getting KM2's is the weak sidewall. I know J-money$$$ and Mr.Leary had this problem. Specifically Mr.Leary who had 255/85's. Toyos will be way quieter than KM2's.

KM2 do not have a weak sidewall, they have the same tire carcass as the Krawler KM series that are a pure off road only tire designed for rocks.

 

[Dous]

The fact that you have mentioned thornbirds twice makes me question how much you really know about what makes a good offroad tire.

I thought it was pretty clear sarcasm. Thanks for the input