Will aftermarket recovery points for Prado150 or FJ Cruiser work on 5th Gen?

[brian0128]

I have a 2015 Trail with KDSS and was wondering if the aftermarket recovery points with Load ratings from a Prado 150 or FJC will work? I know the frames are similar but was wondering if anyone has used either of these products?

RECOVERY TOW POINT - TOYOTA PRADO 150 SERIES - FJ CRUISER


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[marshal]

in theory it should, as nearly all the attachment points and bolt points carry over. however won't know till you try it

i like that shackle mount

 

[Jeremy556]

The stock ones work just fine.

 

[marshal]

id like to see you attach a snatchblock to the stock ones without a D ring

my biggest complaint is that there are no L/R recovery points on the rear. center recovery point on the hitch is almost useless offroad.

 

[Jeremy556]

id like to see you attach a snatchblock to the stock ones without a D ring

my biggest complaint is that there are no L/R recovery points on the rear. center recovery point on the hitch is almost useless offroad.

Can't attach to the one pictured without a shackle, either.

I have one on the left rear

 

[marshal]

no, you can't. but the factory piece is not designed for transitioning a load through a d ring. there is a possibility you could damage the factory point

 

[Marcocopuffs]

id like to see you attach a snatchblock to the stock ones without a D ring

my biggest complaint is that there are no L/R recovery points on the rear. center recovery point on the hitch is almost useless offroad.

Could you please explain why the hitch is useless?

 

[Jeremy556]

Could you please explain why the hitch is useless?

Often buried or blocked when you need it, in my experience.

 

[Marcocopuffs]

Often buried or blocked when you need it, in my experience.

Ohhh I get it... The more points the better. Stay out of the mud pits!!! Hah

 

[mace.]

From ARB USA:

Hello,

I am unaware of them fitting the 4Runner but they might be made to fit. the 4 Runner, Prado150 and FJ Cruiser share the same platform but not sure on bumper mounting or in this case the recovery points.

Hope this helps.

 

[brian0128]

I can't find a picture on how the ARB mounts.

 

[wfo9]

I've never had an issue getting at the stock recovery points. And who does not use a D Ring. Unless your wheeling alone... its most likely going to be a strap you are connecting.... The hitch based D rings work great for pulling people out... However, I have never been buried in the mud. I avoid that crap at all costs.

If I was putting an aftermarket plate bumper on I would use those points, but I see no no need for the ones shown here.

 

[mace.]

I've been actually been denied going on a trail ride with a group as the guy running the ride didn't allow vehicles without "proper" front recovery points. He insisted that factory "tie downs" were not suitable. No amount of convincing would change his mind.

Throwing one of these on may alleviate the issue in the future.

 

[wfo9]

I've been actually been denied going on a trail ride with a group as the guy running the ride didn't allow vehicles without "proper" front recovery points. He insisted that factory "tie downs" were not suitable. No amount of convincing would change his mind.

Throwing one of these on may alleviate the issue in the future.

Wow, those guys sound like a bunch of real experts.

Use this line on them next time.
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I've pulled many people out with these and never had a problem. If you inspect you can see that the strength is better than what most bumpers provide.

Are these jeep guys or somehing?

 

[Jeremy556]

I've been actually been denied going on a trail ride with a group as the guy running the ride didn't allow vehicles without "proper" front recovery points. He insisted that factory "tie downs" were not suitable. No amount of convincing would change his mind.

Throwing one of these on may alleviate the issue in the future.

Whoever denied you doesn't know what they are talking about. The loops go through a frame cross member and are welded both sides. I trust them at least as much as the 1" plate on my Shrockworks bumper, just less convenient to access.

 

[Jetboy]

Whoever denied you doesn't know what they are talking about. The loops go through a frame cross member and are welded both sides. I trust them at least as much as the 1" plate on my Shrockworks bumper, just less convenient to access.

This. The factory tow hoops are probably good for 100,000lbs. I have no idea what alloy they are, but it doesn't matter. The after market bumpers bolt into the same spots. The ultimate failure point is probably the frame material anyway. It's less than 1/8" thick. Putting a big thick tow point into thin wall frame material isn't exactly making anything stronger. Spreading loads to both sides with a full bumper helps, and it's a heck of a lot more convenient, but not necessary for strength or safety.

I can get onboard with more easily accessed points, but you won't make them any stronger.

If you want them on the corners of the rear, weld them onto the sides of the receiver cross bar is what I'd do. I've never had the rear hitch be an issue, but then again my rear hitch on my trail rig is about 30" off the ground, so it's a good bit higher than a 4runner.

 

[brian0128]

If they are fine to recove with then I'll be using them and putting the money into a recovery rope. Do most people use soft shackles with the factory tie down points?

Since we are talking about recovery I'll ask here....what rating do I get the snatch strap or rope for? I've read 2-3 times the gross vehicle weight. Curb weight of 4400lbs and gross weight of 6100lbs.
I've been looking at the ARB since it would be easy to roll up and store it but the Bubba Rope looks good too.

ARB has 17600lbs or 24000lbs
Bubba has 19000lbs or 28600lbs

 

[Jeremy556]

If they are fine to recove with then I'll be using them and putting the money into a recovery rope. Do most people use soft shackles with the factory tie down points?

Since we are talking about recovery I'll ask here....what rating do I get the snatch strap or rope for? I've read 2-3 times the gross vehicle weight. Curb weight of 4400lbs and gross weight of 6100lbs.
I've been looking at the ARB since it would be easy to roll up and store it but the Bubba Rope looks good too.

ARB has 17600lbs or 24000lbs
Bubba has 19000lbs or 28600lbs

I use regular shackles. I've got the ARB strap, but when I need to replace it, I'll go with the Bubba rope.

 

[Intruder]

If they are fine to recove with then I'll be using them and putting the money into a recovery rope. Do most people use soft shackles with the factory tie down points?

Since we are talking about recovery I'll ask here....what rating do I get the snatch strap or rope for? I've read 2-3 times the gross vehicle weight. Curb weight of 4400lbs and gross weight of 6100lbs.
I've been looking at the ARB since it would be easy to roll up and store it but the Bubba Rope looks good too.

ARB has 17600lbs or 24000lbs
Bubba has 19000lbs or 28600lbs

17,600 lbs is the strap you want or 19,000 lbs for the rope. Add up the actual weight of both vehicles involved in the recovery and multiply by 1.5 to get the break strength required. For Bubba Rope remember that they've got 50% stretch when choosing the length (the ARB strap is close to 20% I think). I have 30' straps but a 20' Bubba Rope for that reason.

 

[NoDak]

wonder how this would be on a LE cause the front/rear points are buried up higher than the fragile bodywork.

I have a hitch shackle for the winter time but no where to connect to in the front if I need to help someone without using the backside of the 4runner.