Winch Quick Disconnect and Quick Disconnect Jumper Cables

[Mick1]

I am looking to add a Quick Disconnect to my Winch. My winch cables are 2 ga.

Warn sells a branded winch quick disconnect. Specs here: Warn Industries - Electrical Accessories for Jeep, Truck & SUV Winches: Quick Connect

However, I have found that Anderson Products is the supplier of the Warn Quick Disconnect and have found vendors selling them on ebay.

600V Quick Connect Connectors for Warn Winches 2 Gauge ATV UTV Quad Towing | eBay

I also recently ran across the Wrangler Power Products I-light quick disconnect jumper cables and like the look of them. I-Light Booster Cables | Pro Pickup

They are relatively expensive, and since I now have battery crimper tools from my dual battery installation I researched and priced out how much it would cost to replicate the quick disconnect cables. Surprisingly, based on a equal length cables (16',25', or 30') I found the savings would be minimal if I built my own set, and I did not readily find a clamp style I liked and would not have the LED polarity du-hicky. So eventually I'll probably pick up a set of the ready made cables. As indicated in the following link the I-light used 175 amp connector. http://www.wranglerpower.com/Wrangler Power Products.pdf

The end set up I am envisioning would be a quick disconnect on my main battery to hook the winch to, and a second quick disconnect from the I-light jumper cables hooked to the second battery.

Question is: Should go with the 175 amp connector version for the winch or go for the big 350 Amp versions that the guy in this Nissan write-up used: Nissan Wheelers

If I use the 175 amp I would have compatibility if I wanted to connect the jumpers to either battery for some reason.

 

[GrantK]

You want to go with what the winch can draw. That means 350 amp.
Check out the Anderson PowerPole connectors at PowerWerx.

 

[zidaro]

You want to go with what the winch can draw. That means 350 amp.
Check out the Anderson PowerPole connectors at PowerWerx.

So classic, i was literally writing the same post with the same link and recommendation on matching the winch max draw rating.


^^^^ what he said ^^^^

 

[Mick1]

Ok, I'm glad I asked, because it looks to me like the Warn QD kit is only the 175 amp. I'm not terribly surprised if they went puny, but why would they have?

Edit. Yeah, here is a link with confirmation that the warn kit is 175amp. http://www.amazon.com/WARN-22680-Quick-Connect-Plug/dp/B00029XEEI

 

[K O]

What's the benefit of doing this?

 

[Mick1]

The purpose is to disconnect power from the winch until it is needed. Thereby eliminating fire hazard, unwanted activation, etc. No need to have electrical power to the winch in an on-road accident right??

I have a wireless controller on my winch and currently have it plugged in all the time. The plug in for the wireless controller is under the big black plastic cover that I have to remove to access it. It'll be easier and better to have a power disconnect right at the battery that is accessible by just popping the hood.

 

[phillyd2]

Think you are running out of things to worry about

But, I have the Warn Quick Disconnects on the tractor for a hitch winch I use from time to time. Works well. Warn has great customer support, shoot them an email or call them.

 

[Mick1]

Winch Fire:

Fire under the hood of my TJ caused by winch - JeepForum.com

fusing a winch - Expedition Portal

Winch nearly caught my JK on fire?

 

[GrantK]

Mick1,
You could also install a solenoid instead of a disconnect, PAC-Audio makes one rated at 500amps that you can pick up for about $80. This would let you turn winch power on/off from a switch in the cabin.

 

[phillyd2]

I also don't worry about airplane parts falling on my ride. But I do live the rebel lifestyle. :lmao:

 

[GrantK]

I also don't worry about airplane parts falling on my ride. But I do live the rebel lifestyle. :lmao:

Farmers Insurance covers obscure space junk falling from the sky.

 

[Mick1]

I sent Warn the question about using 175 amp disconnects. My winch's max motor current is 504 amps at 10,000 lbs. At just over 2,000 lbs it is breaking 175 amps. Warn Industries - Jeep, Truck & SUV Winches: VR10000-s

I notice some information at a vendor website that says for use with winches up to 9,500 lbs, but nothing on Warn's website.

It will cost about $70 delivered for the 350 Amp quick disconnects with dust covers and boots. The solenoid option is interesting. I'll look at the PAC audio specs, but Warn's version of the power interrupt kit is about $70 also and comes with the positive cable, some wiring and an ugly switch.

I looked at the Warn Power Interrupt Kit, but there is no information about the specs. Warn Industries - Electrical Accessories for Jeep, Truck & SUV Winches: Power Interrupt Kit

However, I was able to find which solenoid it is with a detailed photo in this link.
https://www.denniskirk.com/615022.s...m_medium=cse&gclid=COKxkeOjhrQCFQ0GnQodWBoAAg

The Warn Solenoid is a Trombetta 974-1215-011-11

Part # breakdown here: http://www.trombetta.com/cm/pdfs/TRPartNumbering-metal.pdf

It looks like
Model: 12V
Max Sustained Duty Cycle: 100%
Max On Time: Cont.
Pull In Voltage: 7.0
Hold Voltage: 2.5
Coil Resist Ohms: 14.4
Resistive Load Carry / Capability (Amps): 125/250
Inductive Load Carry / Interrupt Capabity (Amps): 125/250
Peak Inductive Inrush Capability (Amps): 600
Electrical Cycle Life: 50,000
Contact Material: Copper

Here is a link where a guy wired up the Warn interrupt kit with a sPOD and it is a real clean instal. Warn Winch Power Interrupt Kit w/sPOD install - JKowners.com : Jeep Wrangler JK Forum

 

[Mick1]

As a follow up.

To paraphrase the response I received from Warn: the winch is not rated for constant duty, more like 20%, while higher rated disconnect plugs are available, the size and cost is prohibitive and the winch solenoids will probably fail first, so the 175 amp disconnects are fine.

The 350 Amp anderson plugs with covers were about $70 delivered from powerwerx, but I found these Tuff Stuff 500 amp plugs for $19.60 shipped and just ordered them.

TUFF STUFF Electric Winch Quick Connector Plug - 2 Gauge Wire | TruckandWinch.com
500 Amp Winch Quick Connector Disconnect Plug w Dust Covers for 2 Gauge Wire | eBay

They seem to be the similar to the warn connectors and should do the job of keeping power to the winch off for normal driving and easily connected without tools when needed.