X-REAS suspension in the limited

freezy74

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Do you have to get the air suspention to get this option? my dealer is telling me it cant be ordered by itself. I have it in my sport i have now, and like the way it handles/towes. amy other things that are worth getting?
 
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Yes, you can get JUST the X-REAS suspension on the Limited.

In fact... that is exactly what mine has. :)

If, however you get the Rear Air Suspension, then X-REAS has to come with it.
 
Is the air suspention something you can to woth in the high position? I pull my race car on an open trailer, but my sport does squat some, but i would thing with the air suspention it would be perfect. not sure if its made for that though.....
 
freezy74 said:
Is the air suspention something you can to woth in the high position? I pull my race car on an open trailer, but my sport does squat some, but i would thing with the air suspention it would be perfect. not sure if its made for that though.....

The rear air susp was designed specifically for towing and keeping it level and doing it without compromising the ride quality. The problem is you need to get it from the factory. It would cost way to much to add it later. Even a comparable aftermarket system would cost better then $3K and still would not work as well. The factory system even has an air drier to keep moisture out.

Koz
 
Koz said:
The rear air susp was designed specifically for towing and keeping it level and doing it without compromising the ride quality. The problem is you need to get it from the factory. It would cost way to much to add it later. Even a comparable aftermarket system would cost better then $3K and still would not work as well. The factory system even has an air drier to keep moisture out.

Koz

Thats awsom. In the manual, they say it's for better ground clearence off road. I wasnt sure if you were able to put that kind of weight on it in the high position. Thats really the only thing that my sport has issues with, it does pull a trailer great, but it does squat a bit if its really loaded.

I will be checking priceing today, so i guess we'll see. even though its already more then i wanted to spend a month for a lease payment, if its only like $20.00 more a month mabie i'll just get it. Man, does this stuff snowball..........
 
freezy74 said:
Thats awsom. In the manual, they say it's for better ground clearence off road. I wasnt sure if you were able to put that kind of weight on it in the high position. Thats really the only thing that my sport has issues with, it does pull a trailer great, but it does squat a bit if its really loaded.

I will be checking priceing today, so i guess we'll see. even though its already more then i wanted to spend a month for a lease payment, if its only like $20.00 more a month mabie i'll just get it. Man, does this stuff snowball..........

For off-road use the high setting is compared to a 4" lift.

Koz
 
I just read in the sticky on top of the page the air suspension goes back to neutral over 19 mph. is this true? I would have it cranked up only when towing, and ifs its going to lower itself after 19 mph, i would just assum save the money on it.
 
freezy74 said:
I just read in the sticky on top of the page the air suspension goes back to neutral over 19 mph. is this true? I would have it cranked up only when towing, and ifs its going to lower itself after 19 mph, i would just assum save the money on it.

Your not looking at the system correctly. The air suspension has 3 settings, low, normal, and high. It is correct that if you put the system in either low or high it goes to normal at about 20 miles per hour. However, in normal mode the system has a self leveling circuit that tells the system to level itself out when you put weight in the back including a trailer. This will maintain a level attitude no matter what you do with the loading of the runner up to a point where your overloading the vehicle. Hope that helps.
 
If you have a tandem axle trailer, you may want to try moving the car back farther on the trailer to offload a bit of weight off of the tongue. I have pulled a friend's S2000 on a tandem axle steel deck car hauler and when we load the car up there, we make sure to put the car perfectly centered over the two axles... This makes it to where there isn't as much tongue weight and I've never had any sway problems associated with doing this. Total trailer weight with the car on it was almost exactly at 5,000lbs. My Sport didn't squat much at all that way.

Ricky
 
Spider5 said:
Your not looking at the system correctly. The air suspension has 3 settings, low, normal, and high. It is correct that if you put the system in either low or high it goes to normal at about 20 miles per hour. However, in normal mode the system has a self leveling circuit that tells the system to level itself out when you put weight in the back including a trailer. This will maintain a level attitude no matter what you do with the loading of the runner up to a point where your overloading the vehicle. Hope that helps.

I do understand it better now. it will automatacally raise the back up if its squatting. Sounds like it might be worth getting. thanks again for the explination
 
RickyCRX said:
If you have a tandem axle trailer, you may want to try moving the car back farther on the trailer to offload a bit of weight off of the tongue. I have pulled a friend's S2000 on a tandem axle steel deck car hauler and when we load the car up there, we make sure to put the car perfectly centered over the two axles... This makes it to where there isn't as much tongue weight and I've never had any sway problems associated with doing this. Total trailer weight with the car on it was almost exactly at 5,000lbs. My Sport didn't squat much at all that way.

Ricky

I have actually been doing that, the truck pulls very well, but if there is an opertunity to have the new one beefed up a little bit, i may want to do it. If its to much money i wont bother, being it does pull fine without it.
 
There have been a few people on the forums here that have added air bags inside the coil springs that have lines going to them with a schrader valve where you can add air to them before you go towing. With the 12V outlet in the rear hatch, it would be easy to air them up with a portable compressor after you load up to level out the rear suspension. If I remember right, the kit was only about $100 or so.

You may want to do a search for it, as that may be all you need.

Ricky
 
RickyCRX said:
There have been a few people on the forums here that have added air bags inside the coil springs that have lines going to them with a schrader valve where you can add air to them before you go towing. With the 12V outlet in the rear hatch, it would be easy to air them up with a portable compressor after you load up to level out the rear suspension. If I remember right, the kit was only about $100 or so.

You may want to do a search for it, as that may be all you need.

Ricky

That is what I did after thinking of add the Toyota system and pricing it out at over $3000 :awais: The airbags work pretty good, they just don't hold the air pressure for more than a month so each time I tow I have to fill them up again from about 2-3 psi to 10 psi.
 
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freezy74 said:
I have actually been doing that, the truck pulls very well, but if there is an opertunity to have the new one beefed up a little bit, i may want to do it. If its to much money i wont bother, being it does pull fine without it.

If your going to want the system make sure you add it when you purchase the Runner, its very difficult and costly to add it later.
 
The stock system is pretty slick and all automatic tho. I only used the different settings for off-roading and hooking up my trailer at weird angles.....but the auto-leveling feature is great.

Regardless of how well you try to distribute weight; load it up with 4 people and a trunk full of gear and it's going to squat a bit. Hook up the trailer on top of this combo and with a perfectly reasonable tongue weight it's going to look/drive like it's taking a dump. With the auto-level, you just get in, fire it up and it takes care of this for you.

I understand it may not be worth the extra scratch for some people, and may get in the way for those wanting big lift kits.....but hell, if you're getting a fully-loaded Limited with everything else anyways.....why the eff not? :D :cool:
 
Spider5 said:
That is what I did after thinking of add the Toyota system and pricing it out at over $3000 :awais: The airbags work pretty good, they just don't hold the air pressure for more than a month so each time I tow I have to fill them up again from about 2-3 psi to 10 psi.

Yeah, but I personally don't think I'd want to leave the air pressure in them when I'm not towing. It would probably make the back end pretty stiff... I'm sure it doesn't take all that long to air them up, probably something that can be done in less time than it takes to hitch up your trailer, check lights, load the car, strap it down, etc....

Ricky
 
RickyCRX said:
Yeah, but I personally don't think I'd want to leave the air pressure in them when I'm not towing. It would probably make the back end pretty stiff... I'm sure it doesn't take all that long to air them up, probably something that can be done in less time than it takes to hitch up your trailer, check lights, load the car, strap it down, etc....

Ricky

I agree to a point because the manual indicates that you need to keep at least 5PSI in the bags at all times to keep them from getting pinched and moving too much, but I can't even do that.
 
So, if I could get a little personal here, how much are you guys paying for your leased 4runners> i just priced a limited, loaded but no nav, not sure about air suspension but has the X-reas, its like $500 a month. Not saying its not worth it, but its still $500 a month. Is this about that these normally go for?
 
freezy74 said:
So, if I could get a little personal here, how much are you guys paying for your leased 4runners> i just priced a limited, loaded but no nav, not sure about air suspension but has the X-reas, its like $500 a month. Not saying its not worth it, but its still $500 a month. Is this about that these normally go for?

I can't believe how people purchase a vehicle based on a monthly payment and not the bottom line price of the vehicle. I can sell you any car in the world for $49.95/mo with zero down.....It's just that you'll be paying for it for the rest of your life, if you ever finish paying it off.

I don't know as much about leases, but it amazes me at how many people do this when they finance a car, not even taking into consideration the life span of the loan, the interest rate, or even the most important part, the out-the-door-price of the car itself.

Maybe for $500/mo, they are allowing you a higher mileage allowance or something? You can probably negotiate it down with the caveat that you won't be able to put as many miles on per year or something.

If all else fails, they're always leasing V8 Tundra DC's around here for $259/mo, instead.

Ricky
 

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