X-Reas

Eastcoastrunner said:
It is sweet, when it works.
I don't know about the US, but they wanted $1500 just to replace one actuator and line (drivers side).
Imagine what happens when you get a leak on the other side...then a shock leaks..then a sensor craps out. Get my drift? It's a dealer only system that would probably cost upwards of $5000-6000 to repair (completely) at the dealer.
It's not alone though...We have a sweet dealer only exhaust manifold issue too...and the cables to the moonroof are nice as well!
Options are great, but they shouldn't cost 1/2-1/3 of the value of the vehicle to replace at 100k miles.
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You are absolutely right- if it cost $6K to replace, I'd say screw it. But, I'm pretty sure your dealer was quoting you to replace the whole system. If not all of it, at least half. X-REAS shocks are cross linked in a closed system. If you replace one, at the very least, you must replace the other one that is cross linked.
 
oh yes, the $5-6k number is what i estimate the complete system to be....but that's the issue. You can repair one problem (for hundreds, and thousands) but it's only a matter of time before another issue comes up and in the end, you replace the whole thing.
I heard Landrovers have similar issues, where guys get fed up with spending thousands to repair it, and rather rip out all the hardware and put in a traditional suspension setup.
 
I have over 280k on my runner, x-reas still going strong. Now I'm kind of surprised though, I live in Canada, and the roads I drive on are usually salty as all get-out.
 
momo.75 said:
Luckily in Alabama we don't any road salt issues....:lmao:
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Sorry, I HAD to post that haha, I'm certainly nowhere near your XREAS mileage, but I'll get there one day. :fishing:

And yes, definitely agreed about the roads!!! I used to live in Chicago, so the cold weather/salty roads are thing of the past....for now!
 
I made a point to spray the entire X-reas system with undercoating when the truck was brand new. No corrosion. I have 56000 miles on it and it is great. It actually lasts much longer than a standard suspension which loses its tension after 30,000 miles. The X-reas is really an anti-roll suspension which is why I bought the truck because my teenagers drive it.

So, if it saves a roll over...it has more than paid for itself.
 
Replaced x-reas after about 104k miles as i thought rear shock were source of squeak because of decayed boots. I was not right( The squek emitted by trunk door lock.

After driving on fj's springs + kyb excel-g for a month i can say that x-reas anyway rocks.
 
KB084RUNNER said:
I made a point to spray the entire X-reas system with undercoating when the truck was brand new. No corrosion. I have 56000 miles on it and it is great. It actually lasts much longer than a standard suspension which loses its tension after 30,000 miles. The X-reas is really an anti-roll suspension which is why I bought the truck because my teenagers drive it.

So, if it saves a roll over...it has more than paid for itself.
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keep undercoating it. no one really has xreas probs on a new-ish rig with those low miles...most are rocking 03/04 with over 100k miles
 
kao said:
Replaced x-reas after about 104k miles as i thought rear shock were source of squeak because of decayed boots. I was not right( The squek emitted by trunk door lock.

After driving on fj's springs + kyb excel-g for a month i can say that x-reas anyway rocks.
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i think your prob may have been installing kyb shocks...but i agree, it now feels more like a truck than a car on the roads. I just couldn't bring myself to spending thousands and thousands on it.
 
I just got mine in June and I thought the Xreas system was bad and took it to the dealer. Turns out Xreas is fine with no leaks and works great.

I have a problem with my rear air suspension though. Sometimes it makes the truck feel like it is bouncing all over the place. What I have found is that I just pull over and flip the switch to raise it all the way up, then all the way down, then back to normal and finally to off. That usually makes it ride fine. This seems to happen right after I tow with it and it's messing with the sensors. When I get time I'm going to see if I can find the sensors and clean them.

I really like the way the vehicle rides though when it's not bouncing all over the place. So does my wife. When I take the Volvo she drives the 4Runner more than the BMW, and I take the Volvo about 75% of the time. Just rolled over 200K on the Volvo this week and runing and riding fine.

Really like having the three cars I have right now. They all feel so different to drive which is way cooler than when I had three Volvos.
 
Jim, there a post on Toyota120.com showing how to clean the sensor. You can try searching for it, if you can't find it let me know and I'll look. I'd bet that's your problem.
 
ARK_SWAMP_RIDER said:
Jim, there a post on Toyota120.com showing how to clean the sensor. You can try searching for it, if you can't find it let me know and I'll look. I'd bet that's your problem.
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I went there and read a good bit. Most say replace the system with coils. I also found one that had pictures of the sensors taken apart, but I'm not sure where to find the sensors to take them apart. I haven't really look though and it might be really straight forward. Writeup did say there are two sensors on each side and it's about $1100 per side to replace the sensors. WOW!
 
JimKW said:
I went there and read a good bit. Most say replace the system with coils. I also found one that had pictures of the sensors taken apart, but I'm not sure where to find the sensors to take them apart. I haven't really look though and it might be really straight forward. Writeup did say there are two sensors on each side and it's about $1100 per side to replace the sensors. WOW!
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damn...maybe i should take down all the sensors from my t4r. They were all working when i took my xreas/RAS and replaced with struts/coils
 
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