Yakima roof system on Trail Edition

[luv2eat]

Mine came with Toyota crossbars. Anybody know the weight and wind limitations on the these, if any? I've always had Thules and Innos, and they've been great.

 

[Snowfox]

Mine came with Toyota crossbars. Anybody know the weight and wind limitations on the these, if any? I've always had Thules and Innos, and they've been great.

I think it takes 60 kg or 132 lbs Max.

 

[RyanC]

Just keep in mind that with the rack and the bikes up top you now have to watch out for not only obstacles on the trail but also low hanging branches and trees. Took out my new Trail with Yakima rack to hit up some 4WD trails and ride the Monarch Crest this weekend. Great times and everything worked better than I could have hoped. (even if there were some random pine branches stuck in my bike at the end of the day).

 

[FlyNavy]

For those of you wondering about the integrity of the stock crossbars on the TE, beware. Since the rails are not parallel they incorporated that single black screw to account for placement along the rack. It allows for the minor expansion and contraction of the crossbar.
I recently drove across country and experienced 35 mph crosswinds in Colorado and Kansas with a 14' paddleboard on the roof. The constant stress on the crossbar and the flex was significant enough to work those screws out. I have since been unable to order a replacement thru Toyota. Nobody knows the part number or claims I have to buy a whole new crossbar assembly. A trip to local hardware store has solved the problem temporarily. I am considering drilling thru the bottom and thru-bolting. You obviously lose the adjustment capability, but I keep the bars as far apart as possible.
The real answer and best option however is going with an aftermarkt setup.
Anybody tried the Thule equivalent? If so, I'd love to see a pic.

 

[desertred]

..... Any idea of the models of the yakima fit kit and feet. Much appreciated.

I took some time this afternoon and stopped by my local REI store and examined some of the various Q clips available for the Yakima rack system by actually matching the clips to the door frame. The Q62 clips (these are the clips intended for the 3rd gen T4R) do match very nicely to the curvature of the 5th gen front door - I'd say exactly. Another set of clips, the Q117 (intended for an earlier version of the Tacoma), has the exact same curvature as the Q62 but extends a bit higher than the Q62. I plan to return in the next week with my crossbar and Q towers to determine which set is a better fit for the 5th gen over the front doors.

Thanks to hiker_jon, my 5th gen rack dilemma may soon be over. arty:

 

[4RunnerTrail]

For those of you wondering about the integrity of the stock crossbars on the TE, beware. Since the rails are not parallel they incorporated that single black screw to account for placement along the rack. It allows for the minor expansion and contraction of the crossbar.
I recently drove across country and experienced 35 mph crosswinds in Colorado and Kansas with a 14' paddleboard on the roof. The constant stress on the crossbar and the flex was significant enough to work those screws out. I have since been unable to order a replacement thru Toyota. Nobody knows the part number or claims I have to buy a whole new crossbar assembly. A trip to local hardware store has solved the problem temporarily. I am considering drilling thru the bottom and thru-bolting. You obviously lose the adjustment capability, but I keep the bars as far apart as possible.
The real answer and best option however is going with an aftermarkt setup.
Anybody tried the Thule equivalent? If so, I'd love to see a pic.

I too surf and paddle board. And one of my front bolts is missing from the adjustable crossbars. Do you know the part number? I need to replace mine. Maybe loctite on the treads would help?

 

[SeattleMike]

For those of you wondering about the integrity of the stock crossbars on the TE, beware. Since the rails are not parallel they incorporated that single black screw to account for placement along the rack. It allows for the minor expansion and contraction of the crossbar.
I recently drove across country and experienced 35 mph crosswinds in Colorado and Kansas with a 14' paddleboard on the roof. The constant stress on the crossbar and the flex was significant enough to work those screws out. I have since been unable to order a replacement thru Toyota. Nobody knows the part number or claims I have to buy a whole new crossbar assembly. A trip to local hardware store has solved the problem temporarily. I am considering drilling thru the bottom and thru-bolting. You obviously lose the adjustment capability, but I keep the bars as far apart as possible.
The real answer and best option however is going with an aftermarkt setup.
Anybody tried the Thule equivalent? If so, I'd love to see a pic.

I too surf and paddle board. And one of my front bolts is missing from the adjustable crossbars. Do you know the part number? I need to replace mine. Maybe loctite on the treads would help?

I've been missing the same screw since May. It came off on the front passenger side and I've had a tempt bolt in there ever since. It's the only thing preventing me from selling the TE rails and crossbars. My local parts departments have all been stymied because the bolts are part of the hardware bag that comes with the crossbars and do NOT have their own part number. I am not paying $140 for new crossbars to replace a $4 bolt.

 

[FlyNavy]

I too surf and paddle board. And one of my front bolts is missing from the adjustable crossbars. Do you know the part number? I need to replace mine. Maybe loctite on the treads would help?

I've been to 4 dealerships and all I get is the deer in the headlights look. I think its a real design flaw and a potential safety issue if the rack comes apart that easy. Might just invest in a Yakima setup.

In the meatime, please let the group know if anyone tracks down the magical Japanese screw.

 

[folkmusic]

OK gang, looks like Thule Fit Kit 1555 is the one that fits the 2010 4runner! It's recommended by Thule for the Tundra. The roof lines look similar so I took a chance and ordered them and they fit great! So until Thule gets their act together and creates a fit kit for the new 4R, try the 1555.

 

[desertred]

I took some time this afternoon and stopped by my local REI store and examined some of the various Q clips available for the Yakima rack system by actually matching the clips to the door frame. The Q62 clips (these are the clips intended for the 3rd gen T4R) do match very nicely to the curvature of the 5th gen front door - I'd say exactly. Another set of clips, the Q117 (intended for an earlier version of the Tacoma), has the exact same curvature as the Q62 but extends a bit higher than the Q62. I plan to return in the next week with my crossbar and Q towers to determine which set is a better fit for the 5th gen over the front doors.

Following up on my post above. The Q62 clips (in conjunction with Q-Towers) are the way to go in mounting a Yakima crossbar over the front doors. Some experimentation may be needed to find the appropriate distance between the towers (Yakima's M1 measurement) and setback from the front windshield (M2 measurement). So far, I have found a M1 distance of 45 inches and a M2 distance of 9 inches to be a pretty good fit. Maybe hiker_jon can chime in with the distances he is using to see how close my measurements are to his.
You will need at least a 58 inch crossbar to span the front doors. However, if you want enough length on the outside of the towers to mount a bike rack or something, you may want to go with a 66 inch bar. The 58" bar will leave only about 2 inches on the outside of the towers (that will clear the tower latch). The 66" bar will give you about 6 inches.

 

[Alaska]

Wanna sell you factory cross bars? It looks like you don't need them.

 

[folkmusic]

No, I'm going to keep them. A Thule box works on the factory bars and they are much quieter than the Thule bars (wind noise). Sorry.

 

[robba]

Making Roof Rack Functional with Yakima Q Towers

Following up on my post above. The Q62 clips (in conjunction with Q-Towers) are the way to go in mounting a Yakima crossbar over the front doors. Some experimentation may be needed to find the appropriate distance between the towers (Yakima's M1 measurement) and setback from the front windshield (M2 measurement). So far, I have found a M1 distance of 45 inches and a M2 distance of 9 inches to be a pretty good fit. Maybe hiker_jon can chime in with the distances he is using to see how close my measurements are to his.
You will need at least a 58 inch crossbar to span the front doors. However, if you want enough length on the outside of the towers to mount a bike rack or something, you may want to go with a 66 inch bar. The 58" bar will leave only about 2 inches on the outside of the towers (that will clear the tower latch). The 66" bar will give you about 6 inches.

Confirming everything Desertred said. The Q-towers with Q62 clips are an excellent fit. I installed a set over the front door, and use the regular Yakima towers mounted to the factory roof rack for the rear crossbar. It's too bad that Yakima continues to ignore this issue, and refuses to "authorize" this installation.

At least this installation allows for mounting a cargo box and a kayak far enough forward on the roof for appropriate tie-downs (on the kayak) fore and aft, and allows the cargo hatch to open fully.

 

[folkmusic]

Thanks robba. Already took care of the issue. I picked up Thule feet for the new Tundra because I noticed the Tundra had a similar roof design as the new 4Runner - they work fine.

 

[Clusk]

Mega Warrior! :guitar2: