why not? they are in the MILITARY. when not on the battlefield in an offensive position they are in a defensive position. its a lot harder to defend yourself when you're unarmed.

this entire concept of our military, our ARMED forces being unarmed at anytime is ridiculous. I cant even fathom how it ever became a THING.

Nevada,

I'm not trying to start a beef but I would like to know .... When you served, did you wear your gun all the time? Probably not.

Didn't you at least at some point feel that NOT having a gun on you while doing laundry on base was a reasonable thing?

If you didn't serve then fine, everyone's lift takes different paths but there are multiple people on this thread who keep pointing out that having everyone on base armed at all times (something beyond even threat level D) is not very reasonable.

I can see more service members on base being armed, more watches, perhaps even concealed carry for a portion of them but not all soldiers / sailors - all the time.

I'm sure there are service members who would find a policy of forcing every person to always carry a gun a great thing but they aren't the majority, not by far.

Perhaps at a FOB, Yes. But in Wisconsin at the commissary? No.

I agree to a point, i think things are changing. We are being attact on our own military bases, i think there needs to be qualified armed personnel, at least one every where on base, i don't care if it's the mess hall. Of couse this is coming from a old f#*k that served in Nam from 67-68. I trust no one.

As a diesel mechanic on a carrier, I'm never actually in a battlefield. There is literally no quantifiable reason where I would need a gun in the performance of my job or standing my watch.

What I would like to see happening, especially since I'm seeking recruiting orders and I know the area where my station will be isn't that great, is that we would be allowed to carry concealed while executing our duties. I don't think that's unreasonable especially considering if I wasn't in uniform or in the actual recruiting office, I can walk around the mall carrrying concealed without any problems.

There are metric sh*t tons of qualified armed people on base. Most of them though are guarding the entries and exits of the base. Which is why I think the Ft. Hood shooting was possible, he had access and was inside the perimeter. When was the last time someone made a successful incursion onto a US military base (on US soil) from the outside?

It happens every day. All you need is a drivers license and you can drive right onto the base. There is no security. No vehicle search, no nothing. Bases are not secure. The false sense of security because there is a gate and a fence is only for show.

I don't know what base you're driving on but that doesn't work where I'm at...

What base do you live by?

What is the name of this ungated base?

I live in San Diego. Home to over 50,000 active duty across more than 5 bases. Our bases are gated and have armed guards.

I never served.

our military is meant to protect this country, yes?

its my OPINION than every single person in our military should have a firearm. I don't care if its a desk clerk. they need to have, and know how to use their firearm. it should be part of their uniform. just like any other job, I show up prepared to do my job, in its entirety. I don't understand why the military and guns is any different.

perhaps not, I still think you should be required to have one while on duty.



agreed. which is another reason I think having our MILITARY unarmed is ridiculous.


while I haven't actually gone on base, best I could tell, its that easy. there is(was?) a tiny little guard shack, maybe a couple drop down gates, and perhaps one(armed?) guard. the gates, these aren't actually gates, but more like the things outside of parking garages. however, its been many years since Ive driven out and seen this, so its very possible, and likely security is higher now. considering events the last few years.

Each base has the ability to change the force protection level on an daily/hourly level.

It could be lax at 8am and locked down by 11am. It just depends on the force protection level.

@Logan714

Unfortunately that is what happened last week. The terrorist shot up the recruiters office, then drove over to a reservist base, rammed through the gate and then started shooting.

What that tells me is the gate was not the type designed to stop a vehicle.

The gates here in San Diego that are designed to block vehicles cannot be rammed through with any civilian car or truck. I'm wondering if this TN reservist base was only protected with a simple gate not designed to stop a vehicle.

Nevada,

I could tell you never served. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that, I think sometimes there a bit of arrogance or entitlement that comes from people in the military (in general I mean. I haven't seen that in this thread). But because you've never served, you don't understand how the military works. Not every one is a navy seal. There's people who don't know that the **** they're doing. There's people who are on their third DUI or legal incident that we STILL have trouble kicking out because of all the hoops and paperwork we have to jump through.

Also, and this is me being a realist, if everybody was armed, my least favorite thing about the military would be the ridiculous 3hr wait in the morning and evening everyday at the Armory.

It was a simple chainlink gate:

if done correctly, there would be no need for a trip to the armory. they would just maintain possession.

everyday normal citizens are allowed this right, but not those in charge of protecting the entire nation.

it really amazes me that's this is a thing. that our armed forces, our US military is unarmed. and, seems as though they like it that way? I guess which is the part that really confounds me.

Hey Sir... You even have to hurry up and wait too????? Say it's not so.

Semper Fi brother in arms...

I didn't say they were ungated. I said there was no security. A guard shack and a contractor scanning a drivers license as he waves you through is a false sense of security.

I have been on several military installations across the country and have found them all to be the same.