TacoRunn0517
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That stinks. Well, enjoy the upgrade. I'm huge fan of the exterior/interior design of the JGC.
That stinks. Well, enjoy the upgrade. I'm huge fan of the exterior/interior design of the JGC.
Yeah, thanks. I guess those NY winters haven't been so kind to my 4Runner. I always powerwashed the underside every spring, but it didn't seem to help very much. The salt and brine solution on the roads is just brutal.
I'm waiting for the pickup.
...and the diesel! :hungry:
For me, i love the JL. However two main (safety related) things hold me back:
1. No full-time 4wd. Being in snow and rain a lot, this is a biggie for me. Part-time 4wd is not for me. On the JL, to get that, i have to get Sahara model...but lose out on the off-road goodies of Rubicon.
2. No side airbags for rear bench. This is a biggie as well because i have a family. Yeah, i understand that Rubicon sits high, but why didn’t they include side chest/head airbag that pop out from the side of the rear bench (like that found on the front seats)??
IF they can include both of the above by mid cycle facelift, then i will seriously look at one.
I hear you. I am not big on the 4Runner Limited model due to the 20 inch wheels and all the chrome. I really do not want to spend more money on it past the factory configuration. I do like the Limited full time configuration though. But, the on the fly 4x4 is good enough for me here.
I like having the CRAWL mode too.
I dont have issues with the safety of the JL. I drive the 4x4 pretty slow so
I will let luck play itself out with that one.
It was a little tight getting into the back of the 4 door.
I liked the locker setup and the sway bar disconnect feature.
The JL has the on the fly 4x4 system. That is good enough for me.
I like the GX, not sure if Lexus will update it for next year.Yeah, in Austin, part time + stability control is plenty good.
But for me, i like full-time system + stability control for snow and bad weather. If i am going with a 4x4, then KDSS appeals greatly to me (because i don’t lift)...so, this has kept me away from the 4runner Limited model...and has pushed me to consider Lexus GX...but at the price range, for a little more, i can get the Land Cruiser...and you know, things just get out of hand financially after that!
For rear side airbags, this is huge because my wife works on every other weekends. So, i will have my 3 kids with me most of the time on the weekends. During the weekday, not a big deal because i go to work alone...but weekends, i cannot have a car without side airbags in the rear.
"International expedition guide Magnus Eriksson broke it down for me when I was working for him in the land down under: “You wanna go bush, you get a ’Cruisah. Can’t afford that, you get a Patrol. Can’t afford that, you get a Pajero.”
So who were Jeeps for? “Idiots.”
And Land Rovers? “Fancy idiots.”
It’s so sad Toyota is so far behind the curve with the 4Runner. I still like the truck.. disappointed that they didn’t offer safety sense as even an option. How does it’s corporate cousin (GX460) have these options???
Too bad they are going with another blue. I would be interested to see a 5th gen in desert dune metallic or imperial jade mica.
Is the Fox shock upgrade worth waiting for a 2019 for?
How is it behind the curve? It's just about the only one in it's class, a midsize body on frame SUV. If I am not mistaken there is only one other and that is the Wrangler. I might be wrong but there is not a lot of competition. Probably one of the reasons it set sales records for the 5th gen last year. And the GX has those options because it's sold from the luxury division and costs more. This is Toyota 101
Does the GX have those options? I thought the GX and 4R were about the only 2 Toyota products in the US to no have TSS-P.