285 70 R17 BFG KO2s With Load Range “C”?

TRDORmike

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Hi guys,

Just spotted this photo leak of the new Wrangler JL with BFG KO2 285 70R17 load range C!

Seems like it is inevitable and replacements will need to be available to replace.
 

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I just used the chat feature on the BFG website, and they are claiming this tire in load C will be available for sale next month.
 
Whoa. That's awesome.


Why would you want such a thin sidewall on a tire for off road use?

A c-rated LT tire by no means has a "thin sidewall" and since when do people buy A/T tires for predominantly off-road use?

A c-rated tire will ride better (on road and off road), weigh less (leading to better acceleration/braking/fuel mileage) and will be more than durable enough for 99.9% of the people who buy them. I don't know why people on here think they NEED E-rated tires for a 4Runner. Such a waste.
 
Whoa. That's awesome.




A c-rated LT tire by no means has a "thin sidewall" and since when do people buy A/T tires for predominantly off-road use?

A c-rated tire will ride better (on road and off road), weigh less (leading to better acceleration/braking/fuel mileage) and will be more than durable enough for 99.9% of the people who buy them. I don't know why people on here think they NEED E-rated tires for a 4Runner. Such a waste.

Because [off road] car bro...
 
Also - Jeeps are now going to come with 285's stock? And by the looks of the wheel wells, 35s or even 37's might just be a matter of bolting on and go (depending on gearing of course). Of course it's still a D44, so you'll break outer shafts the first time you bind it up in the rocks, but I have to admit the grass is starting to look green across the fence.
 
Also - Jeeps are now going to come with 285's stock? And by the looks of the wheel wells, 35s or even 37's might just be a matter of bolting on and go (depending on gearing of course). Of course it's still a D44, so you'll break outer shafts the first time you bind it up in the rocks, but I have to admit the grass is starting to look green across the fence.
Lol. D44 is stronger than Toyota IFS.
 
Whoa. That's awesome.




A c-rated LT tire by no means has a "thin sidewall" and since when do people buy A/T tires for predominantly off-road use?

A c-rated tire will ride better (on road and off road), weigh less (leading to better acceleration/braking/fuel mileage) and will be more than durable enough for 99.9% of the people who buy them. I don't know why people on here think they NEED E-rated tires for a 4Runner. Such a waste.

You can compensate for having E-rated tires by softening up the suspension if you want, or airing down a bit, its never bothered me. Lots of guys run 1000+ pounds of aftermarket gear on their truck without realizing it, in which case an E-rated tire is probably their best option. Want to reduce body roll? E-rated wins there too.

People may drive onroad most of the time, any tire can survive that. But driving offroad is where you are usually far from civilization and a blown tire can be a headache. Even for the short time spent offroad, I would rather rely on a tire more suited for it.
 
Lol. D44 is stronger than Toyota IFS.

No. It's not. Not even close. A 4340 30 spline D44 outer has ~5800lbs breaking strength. The 8" 30 spline birfields are now over 9,000lbs. There is a birfield from RCV, but they have to be really small to fit in a D44 knuckle. A current model IFS outer is bigger and stronger by a pretty significant margin although I've yet to see one actually tested on a machine. I'd bet they're easily 50% stronger than the aftermarket D44 shafts and maybe double the strength of a stock D44.
 
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Whoa. That's awesome.









A c-rated LT tire by no means has a "thin sidewall" and since when do people buy A/T tires for predominantly off-road use?



A c-rated tire will ride better (on road and off road), weigh less (leading to better acceleration/braking/fuel mileage) and will be more than durable enough for 99.9% of the people who buy them. I don't know why people on here think they NEED E-rated tires for a 4Runner. Such a waste.



For those of us who traverse dry rugged terrain that puts us out in places where you can easily be 50+ miles away from any form of pavement. E-rated KO2s make a whole lot of sense. I’ll take the 5ish lbs of weight penalty if it means I️ don’t have a shredded tire on the trail.

What I️ was getting at is the notion of running a 33” tire for mostly pavement/graded dirt road use. I️ think it’s silly.


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Jeep must think the C rating is strong enough if they are putting it on their Rubicon. Pretty sure they test those on the Rubicon trail. Must have done ok to warrant putting them on there.
 
Weren't the km's they put on the jk rubicon's also c-rated? I remember them on my 07, they were soft and lightweight.

What the heck is on the hub, looks like a lock off a Yakima?
 
Weren't the km's they put on the jk rubicon's also c-rated? I remember them on my 07, they were soft and lightweight.

What the heck is on the hub, looks like a lock off a Yakima?

Nevermind I bothered to read the Instagram and it's the backup camera.
 
Sidewall ply and load rating are not (and have not been) the same thing for many years. If you're overloading your C load range tires, you're overloading the vehicle period - exceeding the max GVWR - which is dumb.

The reason people are overloading their vehicles is because they think 5lbs here or there (25 for a set of 5 tires) doesn't matter, and soon it all ads up.

I've owned 4 jeeps, 2 short bed 4x4 trucks, and this 4-runner, and C load range has never let me down off road - again - because most are still a 3 ply sidewall or 2 very thick and strong plies.

Who the hell is running 80 lbs in a tire on a 4-runner anyway?

Running 50lbs in a C load range would not be cool either.

I'm all for saving weight, saving money, and riding comfortably down the highway (hence the entire reason I bought a Toy instead of another Jeep this time). I keep my E range tires for my 3/4 ton truck instead - where they're actually useful.
 

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