285 vs. 315
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Tyler James Inc
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Forgiven; I added relevant info. I'm not familiar with Broken Arrow, but I definitely stay in 2wd as long as possible.
JayRolla
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The only part that was difficult was the small side trail to the right. The up hill section was heavily dug out and lose. But was fun. I was scared to hit a harder trail so far from home and my brothers 4th gen is super Shiney so he is always scared of the fun trails. Best party was the scenery.
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Sean K.
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If I may ask...Why? I know some guys who do it for bragging rights....but to me, it just makes more sense for everyone that you complete the trail without breaking and causing a delay for other users. Not to mention, it puts a whole lot less stress on the drivetrain.
Just curious.
JayRolla
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I used to run 2wd all day in my v8 bronco. In CO the trails are so steep I'm almost in 4wd low at all times up or down. Damn low powered v6 and big tires don't help at all. Need gears and SC!!
On the tire fitting issue we could have 4th gens that need to notch frame for larger tires. My bro needs to notch his frame to clear his 33s offroad. 4.5" BS wheels, spc or stock ucas pushed forward and little body lift almost fully clears 35's with no trimming. To clear at full stuff a little work to pinch weld is needed.
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JayRolla
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He runs easy trails, J/K. Lol. Most trails I run require 4wd low.
Tyler James Inc
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[MENTION=144462]Sean K.[/MENTION] I was actually just referring to the recent snow and ice we've had, and wanting to see how these tires do at 45PSI on snow/ice. That said, without a winch- or any armor AT ALL- I'm not going on any trails that will put me in such a bind I'll be breaking rear axles on. I guess you could call it bragging rights, but it's more of a personal challenge to me, and fun to see how far I can go with a locker in 2wd.
JayRolla
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You will break a front cv way before the rear end. More so running 35s and larger.
Didn't mean to call out your wheeling. Just poking fun!!
Sean K.
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Yup....scenery is the reason to do it.
Tyler James Inc
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In 2wd? [emoji6]
Sean K.
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Nothing wrong with that....just wondering.
Ya out here....you pretty much have to at least run sliders or your rocker panels will get destroyed on the first mid range trail you run.
Sean K.
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And on weak IFS front ends....that's the reason I've heard some people claim for not going into 4wd sooner. I don't share that opinion, but to each his own.
JayRolla
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You know I meant on the trail. Lol.
I just filled this thread with useful info. Ha
JayRolla
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I'm pretty good without sliders. I've barely hit enough to slightly scratch my limited plastic cladding. The body lift saves me every trail. I watch my buddy's on 3" lift and no BL get hung up all the time.
Sean K.
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The mid range level (rated 3.0 and up) trails here are going to require that you drive a tire over a rock the size of the one in your avatar at it's highest point, and the canyon will be narrow enough you can't go around it...which means you're going to come down on that rocker.....though a body lift will certainly help.
From looking at your avatar pic, that rock, at it's highest point, looks like it would just barely touch the body if you kept going forward....well, and turned slightly passenger.
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Tyler James Inc
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Sean was talking about it being inconsiderate to run in 2wd, due breaking and blocking up the trail. I said I don't run on trails that would cause me to break a rear axle, cause I don't even have sliders yet... Trail or not, breaking CV's shouldn't be a problem in 2wd [emoji1383]
JayRolla
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You mentioned breaking rear axle. Either way we don't break rear axles often. So don't worry about that since that's one of the reasons you don't run hard trails.
Sean K.
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True enough....for their size, Toyota rear axles are pretty strong.
JayRolla
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The mid range level (rated 3.0 and up) trails here are going to require that you drive a tire over a rock the size of the one in your avatar at it's highest point, and the canyon will be narrow enough you can't go around it...which means you're going to come down on that rocker.....though a body lift will certainly help.
From looking at your avatar pic, that rock, at it's highest point, looks like it would just barely touch the body if you kept going forward....well, and turned slightly passenger.
Yeah and that avatar pick is pre body lift. If I get into that situation I build bridges and ramps. Do what you gotta do to save your rig. I really want sliders though.
Sean K.
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Ya, I was going to say, one can stack rocks to make it through those trails....it just sucks out here, even when it's relatively cool in the 70º range since the sun is beating down on you while you're unstacking all the rocks.
Here's a very old (like probably 10 years old) "revamped" trail rating system for AZ trails.....the scale has shifted by at least half a level since the sport has progressed so much in the last decade. When Chris wrote it though....it greatly improved upon the old 1-4 or 4.5 system and is still relevant as a general guide.
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