4runner TRD Pro

OK, so i took mine wheeling on saturday. this is my first 4runner (previously owned low tech off roaders, 1994 jeep wrangler, 1981 toyota pick up) so i don't have a great frame of reference in terms of how the TRDP compares to other 4runners, but -

we went to georgia pass (colorado). this pass connects jefferson and breckenridge. it's about 11 miles in total length. the south side of the pass is fairly easy, and the north side is significantly more rugged though not anything extreme (if you don't take the wrong turn, more on that later).

as far as how the truck performed:

the suspension is fantastic. as the reviews have said, it seems to perform better at speed. the south side of the pass starts as a pretty typical dirt road, and slowly progresses to more rugged terrain. but the first bits of rough ground were run at 20-25 MPH and it was buttery smooth. an involuntary grin came over my face - i've never felt rough stuff handled that smoothly.

took us about 20-30 minutes to get to the pass. we stopped, had some lunch, let the kids/dogs play for a bit, and then headed down the north side of the pass. we were immediately faced with a fork in the road that offered three different directions to go. after consulting the map a bit, we decided on the left hand direction (as it turns out the center path was the one we wanted). it was immediately more rough (which was expected) and there was more snow coverage (being the north slope). there were some fairly hairy downhills where i was able to put the crawl control to use (really like this feature!). we rounded a corner and there was a water crossing about 60 yards long. i was the lead truck, so i got out, picked up a long stick and started testing the depth. seemed to be about a foot deep at most (at least in the spots i tested), so i locked the rear diff and went for it. guess what? it was a bit deeper than i anticipated or would have liked - almost up to the bottom of the doors. but the truck handled it fine. we kept down this way for a while until we realized we'd gone the wrong way. getting ourselves out required some tricky backing up onto a hairpin turn and my buddy's jeep almost got stuck.

once we got back to the pass, we made our way down to breckenridge.

over all the truck performed fantastically, and i was able to use all the features. again, i really, really love the crawl control. was able to use it going down and up a number of hills.

i am a bit concerned about the water crossing though. is there any way to tell if i got water in the rear differential?

Like others have said, change the oil if in doubt but I would also be worried about getting water into the bearings. Took my 2008 through some deep water last summer and by November the rear wheel bearings were humming. When I pressed them out, I could definitely tell there was water inside. Hopefully, being the bearings and seals are new on yours, it kept the water out.
 
To this day I am very confused by how trucks roll off the production line and they advertise X feet of water crossing, but then they omit that things like wheel bearings and diffs like to suck water--or do anything to mitigate it.

At least it isn't as shitty as the JK that has an electric engine fan, that isn't waterproof.

That's what happened the last time we went down Georiorado Pass to my friend's AEV-ish Heep.
 
just got back from the shop (i didn't take it the dealer as i was concerned water in the diff might have voided some portion of the warranty) -

no water present. pretty lucky - as i said, that crossing was up to just under the doors, and i had to do it twice - once on the way down and once on the way back (after we realized we'd gone the wrong way).
 
just got back from the shop (i didn't take it the dealer as i was concerned water in the diff might have voided some portion of the warranty) -

no water present. pretty lucky - as i said, that crossing was up to just under the doors, and i had to do it twice - once on the way down and once on the way back (after we realized we'd gone the wrong way).

I have a mechanic buddy that helps me mitigate any "warranty" issues like that as well as keeping me up to date on all "recommended service intervals" Dealerships will use anything in their power to void your warranty.
 
just got back from the shop (i didn't take it the dealer as i was concerned water in the diff might have voided some portion of the warranty) -

no water present. pretty lucky - as i said, that crossing was up to just under the doors, and i had to do it twice - once on the way down and once on the way back (after we realized we'd gone the wrong way).

Great to hear! Now it is time to do the differential "scuba" mod. With about $15 you can extend the breather up into the cabin or a body panel so that you don't have to worry about this again. It is a popular mod on FJ Cruisers and Tacoma trucks. Being a n00b on the 4Runner forums I can't say if anyone has documented a similar mod here, however I would suspect someone has. If you can't find the details of the mod here search the web or Toyota FJ Cruiser Community (http://www.fjcruiserforums.com) where I know you can find it for sure.

This will be one of the first mods that I do as it has saved me many times over in the FJ Cruiser.
 
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just got back from the shop (i didn't take it the dealer as i was concerned water in the diff might have voided some portion of the warranty) -

no water present. pretty lucky - as i said, that crossing was up to just under the doors, and i had to do it twice - once on the way down and once on the way back (after we realized we'd gone the wrong way).

Georgia Pass, LOVE it! If you go left, wait until mid summer when it's much dryer.

If the water was up to your doors, for as long as you said, I'd change the fluid.
 
Great to hear! Now it is time to do the differential "scuba" mod. With about $15 you can extend the breather up into the cabin or a body panel so that you don't have to worry about this again. It is a popular mod on FJ Cruisers and Tacoma trucks. Being a n00b on the 4Runner forums I can't say if anyone has documented a similar mod here, however I would suspect someone has. If you can't find the details of the mod here search the web or Toyota FJ Cruiser Community (http://www.fjcruiserforums.com) where I know you can find it for sure.

This will be one of the first mods that I do as it has saved me many times over in the FJ Cruiser.

[MENTION=110133]Cypher[/MENTION], you mean something like this?
Scuba Mod Link:"Scuba Mod" or Rear Diff Breather Mod - Complete!

Hope this helps!
 
1. TRD pro just has some aftermarket crap stuck on it, pretty much any runner could be built better than the Pro.

2. TRD pro holds it value better? How do you know this? You sound awfully confident. Not that I don't agree but there is no way to know at the moment.

:flypig:

Yeah but it comes from the factory. There will always be better stuff, it's inevitable. Extra stuff you put on after can't be made up for if you sell it. Look at NADA. Do you think it has all the stuff I put on my truck to raise the price of my 02'? Mostly No. But I guarantee there will be an option in NADA for the TRD Pro to raise the price / resell value. Same with Sunroof, leather and everything like that. There is no option on NADA or KBB to do "Lift" to raise the resell value of mine. Basically, that was for me and it will help me sell it, but I can't get more than high book. My lift kit was $1400 not including installation. It would have been about $2300 with tax if I would have paid someone to install it. That's a lot of money for a truck only worth max $8000 according to NADA. Same with my stereo. "Premium Stereo" only gets a $100-$150 increase in NADA. Do you know how much all the equipment is to buy? About $2000.

Most parts on your vehicle are not made by Toyota. Denso usually makes all the electric components and AC compressor. Struts are made by someone else (McPherson, Bilstein, Monroe). The list goes on and on. Basically Toyota commissions companies to build components for them. Do you think you have a "Toyota" Transmission? Probably not. Made by someone else.

How do I know it will hold its value better? Simple supply and demand. Only about 3500 will be made according to everyone who talked to Toyota that took the prototypes for a spin and wrote a review . Look at the demand. It's high. I'm willing to bet it holds its value way better than any other 4Runner you can just buy off the lot. NADA and KBB pricing is influenced by dealers. Dealers want the most they can get out of a car, which if they get a rare one, they raise the price. Hence why some dealers are charging more than MSRP for the T4R TRD PRO.
 
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Wow, I didn't know that. Good to know guys. I just been seeing all the vids on You Tube with TRD PRO w/ sunroof. Thx for the heads up ;-)
 
Love seeing all the TRD Pro photos! If yours came with the Rigid Running boards and you don't want them, let me know. My Black TRD Pro needs them! They go for $350 on buyatoyota.com when you select them as a build to order option.
 

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