4th gen pulsating humming noise after lift

Hamquil

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First I would like to say that I’ve been searching other threads for this issue for weeks now and the closest thing I can think of is the needle bearing but it doesn’t go away in 4high. Hopefully someone can help me on this because I’m about to go nuts. So a few weeks ago I had a new set general grabber AT2 265/70r17 installed and balanced by Discount Tire and everything was fine for a week with no noise. Then I installed a spacer lift (3” front 2” rear) with a front diff drop and ever since I have experienced a pulsing humming noise mostly noticeable when coasting at low speeds. I went to Just Tires and got an alignment immediately and it made no difference. I went back a week later and had them double check everything and re align it because the caster was low but they couldn’t get it much higher with the stock UCA’s but still no difference with the noise. I then went back to Discount Tire and had them make sure they were road force balanced but still no difference afterwards. Then I installed Spidertrax 1.25 wheel spacers since the tires were close to the UCA’s so I thought it might have been rubbing when coasting but the noise didn’t change. I am only experiencing a noise and not a vibration of any sort. It sounds like a pulsating humming tire running unevenly on pavement type noise but I really don’t think it’s the tires though. Can a low caster cause this? I have made a list with everything I can think of below and any input will greatly be appreciated!

( I have new CV boots/grease and axle shaft seals on order and will tackle that next week and see if that makes a difference)

Cv axle - inner boots are not ripped but leaked a lot of grease immediately after installing the lift so I closed them tighter at the narrow end with hose clamps and that stopped the leakage. The outer boots are fine and have no play.

Front differential fluid - ?

Needle bearing - has a good amount of play and slightly leaking axle shaft seal at driver side (noise does not change when put into 4 high though)

Tires balanced - good

Alignment - low caster at 1.7 roughly on both sides due to stock front UCA’s. Camber and tow are in spec.

Wheel bearings - no play and do not feel any vibrations when touching the coil springs while manually turning the wheels one at a time.

Universal joints - good, freshly greased and no play

Drive shaft - slight angle change at rear differential. Possibly out of balance?

Brake rotors - front are fairly new and rear rotors do need replaced but it does not sound like a warped rotor noise.

Brake pads - all pads are fairly new

Brake calipers - ?

Ball joints - no play

Tie rods - no play

Rear shocks - slightly overextended but not
leaking.

Front struts- good

2005 4.0 V6 SR5 4x4 175,000 miles
 
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If you are still looking, it's most likely your driveshaft. Every Toyota/4Runner I've owned developed that hum at one point or another.

Try greasing it up real good at all the zerks (don't miss any) and see if it goes away for a bit.
 
If you are still looking, it's most likely your driveshaft. Every Toyota/4Runner I've owned developed that hum at one point or another.

Try greasing it up real good at all the zerks (don't miss any) and see if it goes away for a bit.

Yeah I keep thinking the same thing but I already greased them up after the lift and have been about twice a year. U joints look good also. I replaced the axle shaft seal which stopped the leak and rebuilt the CV axles a couple days ago but the noise is still there. The needle bearing looked fine when I was in there so I guess we can rule that out.
 
Yeah I keep thinking the same thing but I already greased them up after the lift and have been about twice a year. U joints look good also. I replaced the axle shaft seal which stopped the leak and rebuilt the CV axles a couple days ago but the noise is still there. The needle bearing looked fine when I was in there so I guess we can rule that out.

A lot of guys will pull the rear driveshaft, pop into 4WD and drive at the same speeds using only the front wheels and listen for the noise. That way you know for sure if it's the driveshaft or not. If you do this, be sure to paint the ends and the transmission and rear driveshaft and put it back in on the same tooth. They can actually go out of balance if you put it upside down after 200k+ miles of being in the same spot.
 
A lot of guys will pull the rear driveshaft, pop into 4WD and drive at the same speeds using only the front wheels and listen for the noise. That way you know for sure if it's the driveshaft or not. If you do this, be sure to paint the ends and the transmission and rear driveshaft and put it back in on the same tooth. They can actually go out of balance if you put it upside down after 200k+ miles of being in the same spot.

I tried coasting downhill in neutral and it sounds the same. Wouldn’t that be equivalent to removing the driveshaft since it doesn’t rotate in neutral?
 
I tried coasting downhill in neutral and it sounds the same. Wouldn’t that be equivalent to removing the driveshaft since it doesn’t rotate in neutral?

I'm not sure... I have not diagnosed a driveshaft vibration personally since I just learn to live with it. Old cars make noises, no way around it.
 
I'm not sure... I have not diagnosed a driveshaft vibration personally since I just learn to live with it. Old cars make noises, no way around it.

The sound has been a lot worse the past couple days and it sounds exactly like a wheel bearing now. This morning my ABS traction control lights etc. started going off. The issue is that there isn’t any play and I can’t figure out what side it’s on if that’s the case.
 
Wheel bearing solved my similar sound. 167k miles on 2006. I replaced both sides on front. Hub and wheel bearing assembly. Go around a turn at speed and see if reduces sound. If turning right and sound is reduced then it is the passenger side.


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Wheel bearing solved my similar sound. 167k miles on 2006. I replaced both sides on front. Hub and wheel bearing assembly. Go around a turn at speed and see if reduces sound. If turning right and sound is reduced then it is the passenger side.


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I bought a stethoscope and found it was the driver side front. I already tried turning right and left before but it made no difference. That $10 stethoscope was a pretty good buy!
 
I tried coasting downhill in neutral and it sounds the same. Wouldn’t that be equivalent to removing the driveshaft since it doesn’t rotate in neutral?

Just to mention (Not trying to be "THAT GUY,") the driveshaft should always turn when the rear wheels are moving because neutral doesn't affect the engagement of the differential. The rear diff should always be engaged, if it's not, than you've got some really big problems!

Glad you found the culprit though, wheel bearings can be a total pain! I had an 88 Camry AllTrac that you'd have sworn it was the right front wheel bearing from a road test, but when I replaced it the noise persisted! Ended up being the drivers side, which I only discovered when I learned how to feel for wheel bearings in the springs!

Cheers,
Mike
 
Just to mention (Not trying to be "THAT GUY,") the driveshaft should always turn when the rear wheels are moving because neutral doesn't affect the engagement of the differential. The rear diff should always be engaged, if it's not, than you've got some really big problems!

Glad you found the culprit though, wheel bearings can be a total pain! I had an 88 Camry AllTrac that you'd have sworn it was the right front wheel bearing from a road test, but when I replaced it the noise persisted! Ended up being the drivers side, which I only discovered when I learned how to feel for wheel bearings in the springs!

Cheers,
Mike

Yeah that’s true about the drive shaft being always engaged to the rear differential, I was just blinded by rage and frustration that I wasn’t thinking clearly.
 
Yeah that’s true about the drive shaft being always engaged to the rear differential, I was just blinded by rage and frustration that I wasn’t thinking clearly.

Been there, done that! Working on cars for a living you will quickly realize that sometimes its easier to step back and look/think for a few minutes than it is to keep pushing through frustration!

We all have our moments, though!

Cheers,
Mike
 

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