If you have the service plan why did you end up paying? What wasn't covered?
5,000 mile 1st service experiences
- Thread starter SoCalBurt
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I ended up paying for the oil change at 5,000 miles.
The free maintenance plan only covers oil changes every 10,000 miles.
mtbnole
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$83 for an oil change???
-JD-
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Often manufacturers install 'break in' oil. With special additives to help break in the engine. This oil is of much higher quality than ur run of the mill synthetic they install during normal oil changes and probably shouldn't be changed before toyota recommends.
Hell there have been cases of dealership employees draining the break in oil out of new vehicles to keep for themselves...
Hell there have been cases of dealership employees draining the break in oil out of new vehicles to keep for themselves...
Yes. What a rip off huh.
rickwol
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I thought I saw some people here using their "free oil changes" at the 5k check. I bought my TE late in October and since I still had my old SUV to drive during the winter I simply found heated storage and just last week pulled it out to drive. I'm thinking that the oil in my vehcile will have been in that crankcase pretty close to a year soon and that can't be the best even though I only have about 450 miles on the odometer. But I plan on getting it changed once it reaches 2k. I'm wondering if they will give me a hassle with the free oil change at the 2k interval.
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sc1911cwp
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I'm coming up on my 5,000 mile service. I emailed the dealer for an appt and asked what they would cover since it is "free". I'll contact the only other dealer and see what they cover and make a note. I have an extended service guarantee at the dealer as long as I take it there. I'll compare the two and CONFIRM it when I take it in.
chetJ
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Just contacted one of the area dealers to ask about the 5000 mile service since the truck is close to that mileage. I specifically wanted to ask about the oil change and whether it was only done at 10,000 miles. I was told that whether the oil and filter change is done at 5000 or 10,000 miles depends upon what oil the truck came with from the dealership. If it was a certain kind (I forget the name he used), Toyota would pay for oil and filter change every 5000 miles. It was the other kind, it would have to happen every 10,000 miles. I know that my truck has the first kind since the dealership that I bought it from told me that the first oil change would be due in 5000 miles. Taking it in tomorrow- will report back on the experience.
08medic4x4
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I just always thought a vehicles very first oil change was important. Something was bugging me after that visit and about a week later i changed my own oil. Just out of curiosity i placed a very strong magnet in the oil and it picked up some very tiny shavings so i can only imagine what the filter trapped. Maybe its just me but a vehicle should have its first oil change between 1k-2k miles then follow manufactures guidelines. i wouldn't want those shavings in there till the 10k miles when the dealership said it was due...well just my 2 cents as they say
I was going to post the same thing, I heard/did first at 500 miles, then 2500 miles, then regularly at 3k miles, just for my own peace of mind.
Ducmonsta
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Just my opinion...
A Porsche 911 turbo's factory recommended oil service interval is 15k miles. I don't know about you guys, but I wouldn't ruin a $140k car.
Think of it this way...
Our warranties expire at 3yr/36000 miles. I think power train is at 5yrs/50k. Do you think Toyota will repair/replace your engine if it fails at 55k miles?
The point of all of these extended oil service intervals is to show how little maintenance costs on newer vehicles and to sell more of em. For example, I am a government body looking to replace my fleet of police cars. The Chevy Impala says I don't have to change my oil for 15k miles. The Ford Crown Vic says 5k miles. The Impala doesn't have to service the trans for 100k miles, while the Crown Vic is at 30k. It looks like the cost of maintenance will be considerably cheaper if I buy the Crown Vic. Wow! looks like Ford just sold 200 Crown Vic to your local police dept.
And for those of you that "do" your own l services... More power to you. I hope you take the time to inspect your brake linings, lube door hinges, grease all necessary fittings, check all lights, test your battery, check air filters (both of them, if you don't know what the second one is- you shouldn't be changing your own oil), resetting your maintenance light, etc. You should at least go out and buy a grease gun and hit those fittings (if you know where they all are).
How much money are you really saving if you change your oil every 10k vs. 5k? Let's see, $80 per oil service at an average of 15-20k year in mileage.
10k service is $160/yr
5k service is $320/yr
For a savings of $160/year.
My opinion...cheap insurance for our $30-$40k trucks.
Sorry guys, just venting! Sometimes it blows my mind that we put so much money into customizing our beloved trucks, we overlook such simple things.
A Porsche 911 turbo's factory recommended oil service interval is 15k miles. I don't know about you guys, but I wouldn't ruin a $140k car.
Think of it this way...
Our warranties expire at 3yr/36000 miles. I think power train is at 5yrs/50k. Do you think Toyota will repair/replace your engine if it fails at 55k miles?
The point of all of these extended oil service intervals is to show how little maintenance costs on newer vehicles and to sell more of em. For example, I am a government body looking to replace my fleet of police cars. The Chevy Impala says I don't have to change my oil for 15k miles. The Ford Crown Vic says 5k miles. The Impala doesn't have to service the trans for 100k miles, while the Crown Vic is at 30k. It looks like the cost of maintenance will be considerably cheaper if I buy the Crown Vic. Wow! looks like Ford just sold 200 Crown Vic to your local police dept.
And for those of you that "do" your own l services... More power to you. I hope you take the time to inspect your brake linings, lube door hinges, grease all necessary fittings, check all lights, test your battery, check air filters (both of them, if you don't know what the second one is- you shouldn't be changing your own oil), resetting your maintenance light, etc. You should at least go out and buy a grease gun and hit those fittings (if you know where they all are).
How much money are you really saving if you change your oil every 10k vs. 5k? Let's see, $80 per oil service at an average of 15-20k year in mileage.
10k service is $160/yr
5k service is $320/yr
For a savings of $160/year.
My opinion...cheap insurance for our $30-$40k trucks.
Sorry guys, just venting! Sometimes it blows my mind that we put so much money into customizing our beloved trucks, we overlook such simple things.
Ducmonsta
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Amen!
chetJ
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So, just got back from the 5000 mile service. Rotated tires (no charge- Toyota Care), checked fluid levels, reprogrammed FOB so that when driver door is touched, all doors open, and replaced engine oil and filter (had to pay for this). Apparently, Toyota will only pay for the 10,000 mile oil changes, which basically means 2 free oil changes. Overall a great service experience with New Holland Toyota!
For example, I am a government body looking to replace my fleet of police cars. The Chevy Impala says I don't have to change my oil for 15k miles. The Ford Crown Vic says 5k miles. The Impala doesn't have to service the trans for 100k miles, while the Crown Vic is at 30k. It looks like the cost of maintenance will be considerably cheaper if I buy the Crown Vic. Wow! looks like Ford just sold 200 Crown Vic to your local police dept.
Notwithstanding the well written response, sound logic and bottom line math, did you not mean to say the Chev Impala would be the better choice for the lessor maintenance costs?
Notwithstanding the well written response, sound logic and bottom line math, did you not mean to say the Chev Impala would be the better choice for the lessor maintenance costs?
I also got denied a 5K service with the tech stating that "With the synthetic oil, changes are only required every 10K miles". I don't like it, but I bought the 3 yr/45k Toyota Care plan and don't really feel like paying the stealership again for an extra oil change so I may do it myself.
Or maybe for scientific purposes I will go all 10K on the original oil and send it in to have it sampled and report back here. I don't know though - I don't drive in extreme conditions, but do drive 75% city and had one 6 hour trip towing a 3000 lb trailer in the mountains (lots of high rpm and redline shifts).
What does everyone think?
Or maybe for scientific purposes I will go all 10K on the original oil and send it in to have it sampled and report back here. I don't know though - I don't drive in extreme conditions, but do drive 75% city and had one 6 hour trip towing a 3000 lb trailer in the mountains (lots of high rpm and redline shifts).
What does everyone think?
Ducmonsta
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You are correct. Thanks for pointing this out. Just my rant.
Ducmonsta
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Towing is an extreme condition.
update: at 5000 miles my dealer accepted the oil change "coupon" from the 2 years free maintenance package only after i insisted on the free oil change and service . i have also gotten my oil changed for free thereafter(using the coupons) at 10,000 and 15,000 miles; the dealer has been using 5000 miles interval on the window sticker for next oil change service due since the first oil change at 5000 miles!
Renegad44
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Finally got to my 5k mile checkup (5245-miles) today. Nothing drastic, regular stuff, tire rotation, check of fluids, had the oil/filter changed at my expense, something I wanted, after putting after market wheels on, Tire Kingdom did the "air" fill, so I let Toyota re-fill with nitro. Seems like adjustments were made with the shift-points, I can almost swear it shifts better. That's all, a pretty positive experience, in at 1230, out at 1350. :bravo:
just got back from my 5K service ... when I suggested to the service person that I wanted an oil change and was willing to pay for it, all I got was her "eye roll" (I get enough of that at home) and usual attitude about how dare I suggest something that isn't in the manual. Her attitude, as always at this dealership, was attuned to making the customer feel like an idiot. Don't even ask what she said when I asked if they would cover the cost of reprogramming the factory electronic settings (door locks, etc). Oh, the pleasures of a "friendly" small town, where the customer is held captive for lack of local open competition. :redbrick:
