Any reasons why I should not buy a 1998 5 speed with eLocker

[ranchdog]

I think I have a lead on a 1998 4Runner with 5 Speed manual trans with the eLocker option on it. ~160k Miles looks clean but I have to check for rust.

Any reasons why its not a good option, I will only do minimal upgrades for hunting with where its muddy. No ice or rock crawling.

Thanks for any feedback

Rnachdog

 

[Kanoe]

5 SPD and E-locker? That's hard to come by. You could wait a long time to find another with both options.

If it looks in good condition I would grab it.

 

[ranchdog]

Any thoughts from anyone else ??

 

[Denis_Ruso]

Buy it!

 

[Bijan]

E lockers are over rated.

If you're not doing terrain where you know youre gona get stuck, there's no need for em in my opinion.

 

[Scramble]

Yes, buy it if it's in good condition. The only downside is that it doesn't have the 99+ upgrades but you could add them later.

 

[ranchdog]

Yes, buy it if it's in good condition. The only downside is that it doesn't have the 99+ upgrades but you could add them later.

What are the desired upgrades ??

Thanks Ranchdog

 

[ranchdog]

E lockers are over rated.

If you're not doing terrain where you know youre gona get stuck, there's no need for em in my opinion.

We have the nasty clay mud around here that is like grease. I kid you not. During hunting season which is our rainy season. I have an F250 and its so heavy 4WD just almost sinks it in this greasy clay.

Ranchdog

 

[ThorInc]

Here is a decent summary thread & I am also sure that there is one on this site as well:

https://www.4runners.com/threads/3rd-gen-4runner-buyers-guide.630/#post-15774

No pink milkshake issues with a 5 speed transmission so frame rust, rockers, fenders, LBJs, etc. are all things to inspect. It will serve you well for what you need it, given checking for the above items. Prices are area dependent.

 

[Sean K.]

E lockers are over rated.

If you're not doing terrain where you know youre gona get stuck, there's no need for em in my opinion.

Personally, I think it's the best factory ($265-305) option one could possibly get in a 4wd. With it....you at least have 3 wheels with power.

 

[Sean K.]

To the OP, I have a '99 5spd. I personally prefer it as it feels like it has a lot more power on acceleration than the auto.

If it's in decent shape at a good price, buy it....."don't think about it, buy it".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4rPIuK8RaY

 

[ranchdog]

Personally, I think it's the best factory ($265-305) option one could possibly get in a 4wd. With it....you at least have 3 wheels with power.

Wouldn't you have 4 wheels under power in 4LO, with E-lock on ? like both front wheels turning and both back wheels turning ? I have no idea so this is more a question..

Thanks, RD

 

[Sean K.]

wouldn't you have 4 wheels under power in 4LO, with E-lock on ? like both from wheels turning and both back wheels turning ? I have no idea so this is more a question..

Thanks, RD

Not in low traction situations where one front wheel has none.

4WD trucks aren't really driving all 4 wheels because the differential allows them to have more manageable highway manners so the wheels on the same axle can turn at different speeds while negotiating a corner.

When you add a rear locker and turn it on in the case of the elocker, both rear tires are driven at the same rate, regardless of traction or turning. It's effectively like a spool when engaged.

Which means....you have two tires driving in the rear, but up front, you may only have one if say the passenger side tire is in the air or is spinning helplessly in mud. In that case, you really have only 3 wheel drive, but the truth is, the one in the air that's spinning isn't doing you any good in terms of forward motion. What you then have to hope happens is the rear "pushes" the front forward enough for the front end to regain traction. The better solution is a front locker....then all 4 wheels will pull (with say an ARB for example and to simplify the discussion).

 

[ranchdog]

Not in low traction situations where one front wheel has none.

4WD trucks aren't really driving all 4 wheels because the differential allows them to have more manageable highway manners so the wheels on the same axle can turn at different speeds while negotiating a corner.

When you add a rear locker and turn it on in the case of the elocker, both rear tires are driven at the same rate, regardless of traction or turning. It's effectively like a spool when engaged.

Which means....you have two tires driving in the rear, but up front, you may only have one if say the passenger side tire is in the air or is spinning helplessly in mud. In that case, you really have only 3 wheel drive, but the truth is, the one in the air that's spinning isn't doing you any good in terms of forward motion. What you then have to hope happens is the rear "pushes" the front forward enough for the front end to regain traction. The better solution is a front locker....then all 4 wheels will pull (with say an ARB for example and to simplify the discussion).

Ok, Thanks I have much to learn for I am Grasshopper :yield:

Ranchdog

 

[Sean K.]

Ok, Thanks I have much to learn for I am Grasshopper :yield:

Ranchdog

No biggie....I certainly don't know everything about 3rd Gens....and I've owned mine since new. We all gotta start somewhere. There's plenty more I need to learn as well.

 

[Mark_BC]

Not in low traction situations where one front wheel has none.

4WD trucks aren't really driving all 4 wheels because the differential allows them to have more manageable highway manners so the wheels on the same axle can turn at different speeds while negotiating a corner.

When you add a rear locker and turn it on in the case of the elocker, both rear tires are driven at the same rate, regardless of traction or turning. It's effectively like a spool when engaged.

Which means....you have two tires driving in the rear, but up front, you may only have one if say the passenger side tire is in the air or is spinning helplessly in mud. In that case, you really have only 3 wheel drive, but the truth is, the one in the air that's spinning isn't doing you any good in terms of forward motion. What you then have to hope happens is the rear "pushes" the front forward enough for the front end to regain traction. The better solution is a front locker....then all 4 wheels will pull (with say an ARB for example and to simplify the discussion).

When the rear locker is on, is the transfer case locked between front and rear? If not, then theoretically if one front wheel goes in the air then no other wheels will spin as all power goes to the free wheel.

 

[Scramble]

E lockers are over rated.

If you're not doing terrain where you know youre gona get stuck, there's no need for em in my opinion.

It helps tremendously with the resale value as well as getting you out of a sticky situation.

 

[Mark_BC]

I think I have a lead on a 1998 4Runner with 5 Speed manual trans with the eLocker option on it. ~160k Miles looks clean but I have to check for rust.

Any reasons why its not a good option, I will only do minimal upgrades for hunting with where its muddy. No ice or rock crawling.

Thanks for any feedback

Rnachdog

That's what I'm looking for, I'd buy it if it was in good shape.

 

[PWD4R]

Get it then sell it for $3k over on this site to the fanboys


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[itschrisb]

There is no downside to having the elocker even if youre never going to use it. Its highly desirable especially with a 5spd. If you dont mind driving a manual it seems like a no brainer.

If you're going out of your way to get this one over another one then maybe its not worth it but if its in good shape then why not.


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