DannyLlama
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Maybe Bilstein will release their Bilstein 60mm BTS System in time for black Friday!
Best 3 inch Lift for the $$
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I drove from Indianapolis to have my Icon Stage 6 installed by Scott. I worked with Metal Tech and [MENTION=68685]Ducmonsta[/MENTION] (who was at High Tech at the time) to get all my suspension questions and parts list figured out. I've been extremely happy with their service and most importantly, EVERYTHING was done right the first time and with fabulous customer service. Sandra did a great job coordinating things when Bobby wasn't available. I've referred several people their way without concern.
You may also want to check the Metal Tech section here: Metal-tech 4x4 - Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum (looks like 20% off Icon parts).
I'm not sure what they have going at the moment, but likely there is a pretty good black Friday sale scheduled. You can also call them and ask Brandon ( [MENTION=80984]LT[/MENTION] ) for details.
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Marcocopuffs
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That's an okay deal, but you'll be able to piece it together cheaper by ordering from different websites. Plus you might notice they're sold out.
I keep hearing that all the lifts for the T4R can only run 285s. I have 305/70s (16 inch rim mind you) on the FJ with about 2.5 or less of lift. They fit just fine even with 10 inch wide wheels and 1.5 inch spacers to keep them off the UCAs. Body mount chop is pretty much a given. Why does the T4R have to go with so much smaller of a tire?
Ducmonsta
New member
Because the bodies are different. Just look at the fender wells.
Well.. Yeah.. But once you get the lift under there the tires should be easy to clear. Are the fenders on the T4R really that much tighter and lower? Or is it that they are smaller maybe as far as volume. So this then begs the question: There are many 6 inch lifts for the FJ but I only see 3 inch and under for the T4R. Are they not pretty much the same thing underneath??
Ol'Baditude
New member
Yes.
The shape and volume of the fenderwells do not allow as much freedom as the FJ. If you wanna run with anything bigger than a 285 70-17 on a 5th gen 4Runner,you're either going to have to live with varying amounts of tire rub, or you're going be in for a good amount of fender well modification.
Ducmonsta
New member
Yes the fenders are THAT much different.
From the research that I did with FJ suspension lifts for the 4R, I found that there are slight differences between them such as the rack and pinion mounts. I don't recall exactly what it was but you couldn't use the same brackets between the two. I know there are people that have modified the lift for an FJ to make it fit the 4R. Most of the ones that I've seen are in Hawaii where the style is to lift high and stretch tires on wheels that are too wide for the tire.
The current plan if I go with a T4R is probably to start with the TRD Pro and 2 inch top spacers to keep the springs and components of the Pro. Slap in some 295s and wheel spacers. I may have to keep the FJ around to use as a tester until I get the T4R where I want it. It's odd that Toyota would make it so difficult to put big tires under their offroader. Makes me wish they had just built the 4 door FJ.
Ducmonsta
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What would you use the FJ to "test"? Why is it of your opinion that the 4R is Toyota's "offroader"? I understand that its one of the last BOF SUVs. But Toyota's target demographic is not for the "off roading" community.
And lastly, 285s to 305s does not make a significant amount of difference when wheeling. The driver's skill does.
I like the look of the bigger tire and I like the ground clearance at bigger contact patch of a larger tire. They also do a better job of soaking up bumps and deflecting over obstacles.
If you look at the marketing material, Toyota is aiming straight at the offroading market with the T4R as well as trying to incorporate the soccer moms. It also does a good job as a soccer mom grocery getter and but it's a truck at heart. If they wanted to aim only at the mall market. They'd try to replace it with the Highlander. You're telling me the TRD Pro 4Runner is aimed at driving around shopping centers?
I have parts on the FJ that I could toss on the T4R to see what fits and what I'd need to get in a different size such as the wheel spacers.
Maybe most people just like to try to be helpful rather than negative? :bravo:
I'm in shock that anybody can give any semblance of good advice when the OP has still not stated the specific goals to be achieved. Is this to fit larger tires? Is this to improve ground clearance? Is this aesthetic? Is this for Baja racing?
For ground clearance/tire fitment, the best for the money is a spacer lift that you install yourself. For other goals, a spacer lift might not provide the performance desired. The only thing OP mentioned is that "money is always an issue". Based on this, he wants the cheapest lift possible. The cheapest lift possible is a spacer lift.
Without providing specific goals/desires, this thread is stupid and is just like the other 1000 threads that came before it. Bah humbug! :nicethread:
