Best way to carry spare fuel?

[jdm-v35]

Ok that makes sense. I'd still say the roof is your best option. And really no need to get a spendy Rotopax or Jerry can, get something generic till you sort out your long term needs.



Also, I prefer the Nato fuel cans to steel Jerry cans if you're going the 5 gal/20 L route. And FWIW 2 2 gallon Rotopax will fit in the same space a jerry can fits. So for instance I frequently carry 1 Nato can water, 1 Rotopax water and 1 rotopax fuel in my Jerry can holder on my bumper. Or obviously and permutations of that.

Agreed, This year I will probably hold off and carry a fuel can, then reassess the situation after that unless I find an unreal deal on a bumper or something before then.

 

[Grug556]

no damage to the hatch, but its a little wobbly when the hatch is open. I contribute the "wobble" to the added weight on the ladder on only one side of the hatch over time (trasharoos and rotopax). Its those little things you notice as you're vehicle ages.

IMHO, i think RIGD is a good deal if u can find it used for around or under 1k with all the accessories. I would not pay full price for their hipster BS pricing.

My buddy bought the RIGD used with the intention of modifying it for dispersed camping as you can see in his instagram pics. It works really well.

Mini Specter cans are good for the roof. They come in 5Gallon and 2.5 gallon half sizes. The half sizes are short and will stack well in a rack side by side and strapped down.

 

[mrblah]

Mini Specter cans are good for the roof. They come in 5Gallon and 2.5 gallon half sizes. The half sizes are short and will stack well in a rack side by side and strapped down.

Yeah I have 2.5 gallon water jugs when I wanna carry water inside the cab. They are a great size

 

[Jetboy]

yea for this year I may buy a good gas can and carry it. I will reassess after thiss eason. I thought about it and what may be smarter is to possibly invest in an ATV and trailer and set up the 4runner as my base camp, as eventually I will probably be doing some hunts alone, and it is a lot easier to get an ATV through bad terrain than a fuill size car.

I bought a Yamaha Rhino this year. I'm in Alaska right now and basically the entire state is a giant swamp. So most everything is either mud or spongy "muskeg" which is more or less peat bog of bottomless soft stuff. And many areas have a 1500lb weight limit for vehicles. It's old school by UTV standards. But it's the smallest, lightest, 4 seat setup I could figure out that I could also actually get. (wanted a Honda Pioneer 700-4, but couldn't find one new or used anywhere here). Even being old and half worn out - the little bugger is pretty impressive on little tiny 27" tractor tires.

There's a lot of downsides - it's really a toy, not an adventure mobile, no heater, noisy, bugs get in, etc. And they require a lot of maintenance. It's not all good. But it's a decent option to have an accessory toy vehicle. Especially if the terrain where you're at matches up with the atv's strong points. And for me - at $7k it was cheaper than just the cost to ship my FJ40 up and back, not to mention I'd also need to buy a trailer for it here.

 

[Grug556]

Yeah I have 2.5 gallon water jugs when I wanna carry water inside the cab. They are a great size

The Specter 5g use to come in BLUE for water, now its OD green same as their other cans, but marked WATER In the center.. best not mix and match!

I have found they hold up well to high heat, some bloating of cans but they shrink back when cold. ONe thing though for those who havent used SPecters before. They have a screw on cap hose for easy filling of our gas tanks with a hose that just slides in with no mess. Its not easy to pour from a large container with no funner, or hose into a gas port with the usual anti back flapper plate in it.

 

[johnnygraphic]

Having to haul 40 lbs up or down from a roof rack does not sound like a fun time...at all.

Those RotoPax are stupid expensive and require proprietary mounting hardware and don't get you much capacity in return. IMHO, get one or two 5 gallon metal jerry cans from Harbor Freight.
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While you're there, get yourself a hitch mounted utility basket.
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You can carry extra water, propane etc.

Easy and inexpensive and accomplishes your goal. Doesn't need to be fancy.

That said, I had a buddy make me a swing out gas can carrier. VERY cool. But, even after 4 days in Death Valley, still didn't need to use any of it. I thought for sure I would be dipping into my spare gas seeing as the MPG is a dismal 12-14 MPG at best. A lot of wasted time/money on that carrier.

 

[jdm-v35]

I bought a Yamaha Rhino this year. I'm in Alaska right now and basically the entire state is a giant swamp. So most everything is either mud or spongy "muskeg" which is more or less peat bog of bottomless soft stuff. And many areas have a 1500lb weight limit for vehicles. It's old school by UTV standards. But it's the smallest, lightest, 4 seat setup I could figure out that I could also actually get. (wanted a Honda Pioneer 700-4, but couldn't find one new or used anywhere here). Even being old and half worn out - the little bugger is pretty impressive on little tiny 27" tractor tires.

There's a lot of downsides - it's really a toy, not an adventure mobile, no heater, noisy, bugs get in, etc. And they require a lot of maintenance. It's not all good. But it's a decent option to have an accessory toy vehicle. Especially if the terrain where you're at matches up with the atv's strong points. And for me - at $7k it was cheaper than just the cost to ship my FJ40 up and back, not to mention I'd also need to buy a trailer for it here.

Yea I would need it mostly for hunting so I am looking at a canam outlander max dps 700 to carry 2 people and hunting gear. I may also consider a honda too. Will have to assess it and see how much I really want to continue investing into my adventures though after this years trip.

 

[jdm-v35]

I ended up just looking on the used market and found a good deal... So....

its mounted up, but I will replace the tire carrier with a dual jerry can holder instead so I can carry any mix of fuel/water needed for each trip.

 

[mrblah]

The Specter 5g use to come in BLUE for water, now its OD green same as their other cans, but marked WATER In the center.. best not mix and match!

I have found they hold up well to high heat, some bloating of cans but they shrink back when cold. ONe thing though for those who havent used SPecters before. They have a screw on cap hose for easy filling of our gas tanks with a hose that just slides in with no mess. Its not easy to pour from a large container with no funner, or hose into a gas port with the usual anti back flapper plate in it.

i live in cali, where they make the color decisions for me lol.

I have red scepters for fuel. everything else is water.

 

[Grug556]

i live in cali, where they make the color decisions for me lol.

I have red scepters for fuel. everything else is water.

I live in Canada..behind the iron curtain..they still let us have Specters.. maybe Santa sends you some for Christmas this year..:usa2:

 

[Grug556]

This might be a stupid question, but has anybody used an interior mounted race fuel cell that is sealed and self sealing in an accident? MIght be a way to keep it inside but safe as well, I think some I saw in the past have easy switch over to top up the tank.

 

[jdm-v35]

This might be a stupid question, but has anybody used an interior mounted race fuel cell that is sealed and self sealing in an accident? MIght be a way to keep it inside but safe as well, I think some I saw in the past have easy switch over to top up the tank.

If going that far, there is a spare tire well mounted fuel tank that extends the normal tank. The guy I bought the RIGd from actually had it and it adds 24 gallons of capacity.

 

[CajunMikeR]

If going that far, there is a spare tire well mounted fuel tank that extends the normal tank. The guy I bought the RIGd from actually had it and it adds 24 gallons of capacity.

5th Gen 4Runner & Lexus GX460 Long Range Auxiliary Fuel Tank (24gal)

 

[Grug556]

If going that far, there is a spare tire well mounted fuel tank that extends the normal tank. The guy I bought the RIGd from actually had it and it adds 24 gallons of capacity.

Any idea of rough price for that or a somebody who sells it? 24 gallons is a fair bit on top of the stock tank. Makes the range close to a 1k KM

 

[jdm-v35]

Any idea of rough price for that or a somebody who sells it? 24 gallons is a fair bit on top of the stock tank. Makes the range close to a 1k KM

per the link above: $2,345.00 USD

That is a lot of money(probably 3k shipped, with tax) and I think after I get the Jerry can setup complete and maybe do a propane holder, I can consider the 4runner done. I don't need or want to get too extreme with it and I have my other car I have been modding and driving daily so the 4runner only gets used for camping and bad weather.

 

[Grug556]

per the link above: $2,345.00 USD

That is a lot of money(probably 3k shipped, with tax) and I think after I get the Jerry can setup complete and maybe do a propane holder, I can consider the 4runner done. I don't need or want to get too extreme with it and I have my other car I have been modding and driving daily so the 4runner only gets used for camping and bad weather.

yeah saws the link now.. looks nice. Pricey but nice.

 

[WildSockets]

Scepter cans strapped on my prinsu with a Rhino Rack horizontal jerry can holder. I also have a Scepter water can and a Rhino double horizontal.

The holders were from a previous vehicle that used a Rhino Rack but they work with any 8020 extrusion crossbar (like on Prinsu, etc).

 

[Captain Spalding]

Also, I prefer the Nato fuel cans to steel Jerry cans if you're going the 5 gal/20 L route. And FWIW 2 2 gallon

The NATO fuel can is the same thing as a Jerry can. If you are referring to Scepter jugs, they are inferior to the original steel NATO cans. In my experience Scepter jugs will leak unless tightened so tightly that a tool is required to open them. A NATO can, on the other hand, with a gasket in good condition, doesn’t leak. No liquid, no vapor, nothing. I’m talking about the original style with the flip up lid. Not the pathetic CARB-compliant abortion with the screw cap.

 

[comtn4x4]

The NATO fuel can is the same thing as a Jerry can. If you are referring to Scepter jugs, they are inferior to the original steel NATO cans. In my experience Scepter jugs will leak unless tightened so tightly that a tool is requires to open them. A NATO can, on the other hand, with a gasket in good condition, doesn’t leak. No liquid, no vapor, nothing. I’m talking about the original style with the flip up lid. Not the pathetic CARB-compliant abortion with the screw cap.

Yes you are correct I meant to say Sceptre can. And I agree rip off Nato cans are awful. (Non Wavian branded) We can agree to disagree on which is better. My Nato cans don't leak during storage but ALWAYS leak during the first part of filling . Never had any trouble with Sceptre cans myself

 

[Grug556]

My Scepter cans have been great to. Never leaked. I did look into buying surplus NATO cans, but most of the reviews said the original lid gaskets got brittle over time from use and could or would eventually leak. I have no gasket in the scepter cans I have. ONe is maybe 20 years old. Still good.