mrblah
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its luck of the draw, all heavy tires have a chance of balancing issues, whether its BFG, fallen, yoko's, nitto, etc.
BFG KO2 or Falken Wild Peak AT3W
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its luck of the draw, all heavy tires have a chance of balancing issues, whether its BFG, fallen, yoko's, nitto, etc.
Lexington
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I was trying to find out when he noticed it.
If he noticed it when the tires were new then the cause most likely a bad tire as you said but if the tire were fine when they were new but they had problems later then it’s most likely cause by a bad wheel alignment. You won’t notice it until you rotate your tires.
Mr Rutherford
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Just put on my second set of Wildpeaks on Friday, 285s this time. Had a chance to test them in heavy/light rain last night, didn't slip or hydroplane at all. Very happy with them.
johnnygraphic
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It's been a few months since we put on our Wildpeak AT3Ws on our 2021 ORP. Stock size and E-load. Never had any wobble or steering issues. Still drives like normal. MPG went down a notch or two. Hurts more today than before at around $6/gal. Fortunately, we don't drive as much as we used to. I also have a BMW 330i that is quite miserly if we truly needed to squeak out the MPGs. But, so far, we've been ok. The tires performed well in the wet, although never had to drive thru a torrential downpour this winter. Maybe next year?
electricfingers
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Buying 4 Falken AT3 today at Discount Tire.
Thanks to all for posting about BFG KO2 versus the Falken WildPeak.
Although the postings appear split evenly between the two, I'm leaning toward purchase of the Falken WILDPEAK A/T3W 265/70 R17 115T SL RBL ...based on current driving habits.
I live in Central Texas these days, so most driving is highway and city. Occasionally we wander about to mountains in New Mexico and Colorado to visit family and friends which leads to some light off road. Because of my infrequent and light off road use, the passenger friendly 'SL' version seems the better choice than an LT version in C or E load range. (My 1988 4runner extreme off-road fun of years ago, during late 80s & early 90s, is long gone.)
My stock 2018 4Runner OR runs Goodyear Duratracs 265/70, load range C, for the last 30,000 miles on FN brand wheels. These are nice tires and I've been pleased with overall performance. Both wet and dry traction has been good as well as handling.
However, the Duratracs have now reached about half-life of tread. I experience more 'slide' when highway surface is lightly wet. Quick stops on wet pavement require a little more distance to avoid a collision. Also, I've recently noticed a bit more 'wobble' or vibration feel from the steering wheel, but that concern is likely solved by balancing the tires.
I'm going with the Falkens because they 'appear" to have better wet & dry traction and slightly lower road noise than Duratracs. I'm willing to compromise long tread life and cost for improved safety and quiet.
Once again, thanks to all ... as you sharing your thoughts and experiences has helped me select the right tire for my current needs.
Thanks to all for posting about BFG KO2 versus the Falken WildPeak.
Although the postings appear split evenly between the two, I'm leaning toward purchase of the Falken WILDPEAK A/T3W 265/70 R17 115T SL RBL ...based on current driving habits.
I live in Central Texas these days, so most driving is highway and city. Occasionally we wander about to mountains in New Mexico and Colorado to visit family and friends which leads to some light off road. Because of my infrequent and light off road use, the passenger friendly 'SL' version seems the better choice than an LT version in C or E load range. (My 1988 4runner extreme off-road fun of years ago, during late 80s & early 90s, is long gone.)
My stock 2018 4Runner OR runs Goodyear Duratracs 265/70, load range C, for the last 30,000 miles on FN brand wheels. These are nice tires and I've been pleased with overall performance. Both wet and dry traction has been good as well as handling.
However, the Duratracs have now reached about half-life of tread. I experience more 'slide' when highway surface is lightly wet. Quick stops on wet pavement require a little more distance to avoid a collision. Also, I've recently noticed a bit more 'wobble' or vibration feel from the steering wheel, but that concern is likely solved by balancing the tires.
I'm going with the Falkens because they 'appear" to have better wet & dry traction and slightly lower road noise than Duratracs. I'm willing to compromise long tread life and cost for improved safety and quiet.
Once again, thanks to all ... as you sharing your thoughts and experiences has helped me select the right tire for my current needs.
Florunner78
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I've run both on my 4Runner. The KO2s are a tougher tire, but the AT3W are a lot better in the rain. I used to have to be very light on the throttle going around turns (especially 90 degree right turns going uphill) with the KO2s, the AT3Ws have no issues at all with the same turns.
Klinsman55
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Good to know. I’m in NV and will be mostly desert roads like Death Valley �� and have been debating between KO2 in C load vs Wildpeak P load.
With all the rocks here was leaning towards KO2 due to stronger side wall but kinda like the better daily driver on-road and wet handling of the Wildpeaks. ��
Seems like your P rated Wildpeaks hav3 survived some good rocky desert terrain
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Lexington
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I don’t know why people keep saying the KO2s don’t handle well in wet weather. I’ve owned 4 sets in the last 20 years and never had a problem and they drive great on the road.
I’ve read many reviews and they are not unanimous in their decision but here is what I think the average are.
Rocks - KO2s have receive more favorable reviews
Sand - KO2s have receive more favorable reviews
Wet Rain - reviews are 50/50
Snow - Wildpeaks seem to have slightly more favorable reviews
Mud - Wildpeaks seem to have slightly more favorable reviews
Road- KO2s Everyone says KO2s are quieter.
Best bang for the buck. Wildpeaks This is pretty unanimous.
Bottom line is that both are excellent tires and the advantage that one tire has over the other I believe are minor ones. The way as I see it you can’t go wrong with either tires.
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Klinsman55
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Glad to read all this information . I’ll be looking for AT tires when I get my 4Runner. Only plan to maybe do some dirt gravel washboard desert trails once a month or so with an occasional trip soirée to Death Valley
Don’t want E tires as I like a nicer on road ride and don’t plan on towing or having heavy loads or airing down past say 25 PSI. Also want to keep tire weight 46lb or less in stock size 265/70/17
Options now limited to P and C load.
Cooper AT3 LT C load 45lbs
KO2 C load 44lbs
Wildpeaks P load 45lbs
Grabber A/TX C load 46 lbs
Toyo A/T 3 P load 39lbs
was leaning to KO2 C load but their side wall is only 2 ply. The other tires all 2 ply as well and seem to have a little better on road manners and better in wet.
Wildpeaks seem to have a 2 ply sidewall but folded over adding more protection so wondering if this gives as good protection if not better protection than the KO2 side wall? Seems max PSI is essentially same for these two tires except Wildpeak rayed P load vs KO2 C Load.
not sure how sidewalls on the others on the list stack up to KO2 or WP. If I wasn’t driving south west desert and just doing soft forest roads dirt/mud/beach I wouldn’t care so much about squeezing out a little extra protection while keeping weight and road manners in check.
with that said for the 5 days a year it sprinkles in northern Nevada I probably shouldn’t care as much about wet road handling of the KO2’s vs the Wildpeaks but I suspect the ride would be softer and less noise with WP’s
Anyone have thoughts or feelings on this they would like to share?
Don’t want E tires as I like a nicer on road ride and don’t plan on towing or having heavy loads or airing down past say 25 PSI. Also want to keep tire weight 46lb or less in stock size 265/70/17
Options now limited to P and C load.
Cooper AT3 LT C load 45lbs
KO2 C load 44lbs
Wildpeaks P load 45lbs
Grabber A/TX C load 46 lbs
Toyo A/T 3 P load 39lbs
was leaning to KO2 C load but their side wall is only 2 ply. The other tires all 2 ply as well and seem to have a little better on road manners and better in wet.
Wildpeaks seem to have a 2 ply sidewall but folded over adding more protection so wondering if this gives as good protection if not better protection than the KO2 side wall? Seems max PSI is essentially same for these two tires except Wildpeak rayed P load vs KO2 C Load.
not sure how sidewalls on the others on the list stack up to KO2 or WP. If I wasn’t driving south west desert and just doing soft forest roads dirt/mud/beach I wouldn’t care so much about squeezing out a little extra protection while keeping weight and road manners in check.
with that said for the 5 days a year it sprinkles in northern Nevada I probably shouldn’t care as much about wet road handling of the KO2’s vs the Wildpeaks but I suspect the ride would be softer and less noise with WP’s
Anyone have thoughts or feelings on this they would like to share?
WildSockets
Member
Wildpeak used to be the best bang for buck tire, but I've seen them cost just as much (or even more) than a KO2 these days.
Lexington
Member
Inflation is ruining everything!
johnnygraphic
Member
When I first bought a set of Wildpeaks, they were a REALLY budget friendly tire. I bought another set last year and they were still cheaper than others out there (KO2s), but not by much. In the last 6-8 months, everything has gone up though. Buying a whole new set will cost quite a bit more than before.
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Klinsman55
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taildragger
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On my 2nd set of wildpeaks and they're great tires. Had 265's just put 285's on. Ride great on and off road
mudmancrash
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Can’t speak for KO2’s, but everyone I know that lives in the mountains loves them. Love the AT3W’s in mud, sand, rain, and in ALL types of snow - whether in the heartland or visiting mountain friends. They are upgrades over everything else that I’ve owned.
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sato_toguchi
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I've ran both K02's and AT3/W's. Currently running AT3/W's on my Runner and had them on my previous 5th Gen as well. Can't go wrong with either tire - K02's have been the gold standard for A/T tires for the longest time and the AT3/W's are a relative newcomer. From my experience the K02's hum slightly louder and seem to kick up small rocks, debris more so than the AT3/W's. For snow and wet traction, I'd give the edge to the Falkens. Been through some severe snow storms with the AT3/W's and they performed flawlessly. Drove from Seattle to Whistler BC in the middle of a blizzard Jan 2020, HWY 99 to Whistler was basically an ice field, and the Falkens handled that trip with ease. No chains, just had it in 4-HI, slow and steady.
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