Brake pad options

Getting ready to do breaks again on my 2003.

Is there a consensus on a nice aftermarket rotor? I got 100K twice out of two OEM sets but I would like to try a cross drilled/slotted set maybe.

No aftermarket tires or suspension.
 
I shopped for pads all over the Internet. I ended up buying all OEM pads and rotors (not the AZ pads) from Daytona Toyota. Shipping and everything was $475 ($50 more than the AZ pads).

The local dealers could not come close to matching this price. Not sure if I will put them on myself or pay a mechanic $250 to do the work. Leaning towards paying the mechanic.

I read lots of threads and saw eveybody's opinions and decided to just bite the bullet and go all OEM.
 
I'm sure you can do it yourself. The brake on the 4R are just about the easiest ones you will ever do.
 
I'm a bit late to the conversation but I'll throw in my 2 pence. I'm curious as to what qualifies "OEM is the best" like a few people have said. Is that performance-based? Initial bite? Fade resistance? Pad life? Dust? Noise? What makes a pad better than any others? I'm new to trucks but have a decent amount of experience with cars, so bear with me.

I had a Subaru STi that had Brembo brakes from the factory. The stock pads were okay, but they dusted like crazy. I swapped out the pads for some Hawk HPS. The Hawks had a better initial bite and lower dust. I also changed out the Brembo blank rotors for Stoptech slotted rotors. They were much better in the rain than the blanks and very similar in dry conditions (slotted do have a little less surface area due to the slots so some people say they sacrifice dry braking performance for better wet performance. I didn't notice a real difference in dry, but I changed the rotors at the same time as the pads so those may have affected things). I also changed out the original rubber lines for Stoptech stainless lines and the original fluid for Motul 600. Overall, the brakes were fantastic.

My Aston has Brembos from the factory as well, but with slotted rotors and stainless lines as standard (as opposed to blanks and rubber, respectively, on the STi). The pads were changed out for Pagid or Porterfield (can't remember which), and I have brake cooling ducts (but I'm not sure how effective they are due to routing). I track the car and never have any braking issues, usually doing 4x 20-minute sessions per day for 1-2 days.

I'm looking at upgrading the brakes on my T4R and haven't decided which way to go yet. I'd like to get slotted rotors for my T4R but I'm worried about getting small rocks stuck in them. This DOES happen with my Aston, and it's a road-only car. I'm worried that an off-road vehicle will be far more prone to it. (Quick note: rocks getting stuck is generally only a nuisance and is easy to remedy, doesn't cause any problems but you can hear and feel the rock.)

I always steer clear of drilled brake rotors. They're very prone to getting debris stuck in the holes, and they aren't as structurally sound as blanks or even slotted. The big exception to this are exceptionally expensive. I definitely wouldn't trust cheaper rotors, like those that are offered for 4Runners.

There's really no downside to upgrading the lines and fluid except for the cost of them, so I'll probably be doing those when the time comes.

Of course, take all of this with a grain of salt. I'm not an engineer. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
 
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Don't waste your money with slotted rotors. Good quality blank rotors are what you want. Slots do nothing on a street car.

I run Centric premium blank rotors front and rear and EBC green 6000 series pads. They have a lot of bite but do dust moderately. The EBC 7000s have even more bite, but are slightly cold blooded. They need a block or two to get some temp in them. If you have run Hawk HP+ pads before, they are similar in feel.

I am on my 2nd set of EBC pads. I got pulsing in the brake pedal when the pads were almost gone. The rotors were fine, I just slapped in another set of pads and braking was smooth again.
 
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Don't waste your money with slotted rotors. Good quality blank rotors are what you want. Slots do nothing on a street car.

Sure they do...they wear down the pads faster.

Slotted or dimpled rotors are GREAT for race cars. There is no need for them consumer vehicles. But they do look cool.
 
Slotted rotors are good in inclement weather because they basically scrape your pads to prevent a boundary layer or liquid/gas from forming. (The gas forms from the heat vaporizing the liquid.)

I don't disagree that blanks are adequate for most people in most situations, but I think slotted are also worth consideration.
 
....but don't slotted look cooler....??

Just kidding of course.

I was under the impression that the slotted also help by given the trapped gasses in heaving peddle application and escape path as compared to getting trapped between the disc and pad?

That all being said, I have gotten nearly 100K out of the stock sets previously. I have some serious peddle feedback now so the rotors are definitely out.

Only had one, knock on wood, seized rotor this last time around.

What are the sizes on the Limited edition rotors? Is it only the Sport model that runs the 13" rotor?

Lastly, what is protocol for bleeding the rear brakes? I want to completely flush the lines and seem to recall that the rear brakes work off of some sort of separate pump or something. Obviously it was a while ago.

Is anyone rebuilding their calipers if they are seized?
 

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