Brake upgrade to 5th Gen

[Cory619]

I wanted to get some input for the parts listed. I have a 2004 4Runner that I want to upgrade the calipers and rotors to a Gen 5 setup. All of the part except the Power Stop Calipers I got from the list that GLW68 put together. He went with the Centric calipers. I am going with the Power Stop because they are already powder coated red. But I am using Centric rotors. Will that matter?

Thanks for your input. It helps me feel comfortable ordering these parts and knowing I have the right stuff.

This is the thread I am working from. http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/196236-5th-gen-calipers.html

BPOWER STOP S2736 Performance Red Powder Coated; Includes: Caliper, Hardware, and Bracket; Includes: Caliper, Hardware, and Bracket Info
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BPOWER STOP S6278 Performance Red Powder Coated; Includes: Caliper, Hardware, and Bracket; Includes: Caliper, Hardware, and Bracket (where applicable) Info
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Brake & Wheel Hub : Rotor
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CCENTRIC 12644175SL StopTech Sport Slotted Info
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CCENTRIC 12644175SR StopTech Sport Slotted Info
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CCENTRIC 12644174SL StopTech Sport Slotted Info
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CCENTRIC 12644174SR StopTech Sport Slotted Info
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Brake & Wheel Hub : Brake Pad
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AAKEBONO ACT606 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} ProACT Ultra Premium Ceramic Pad Info
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AAKEBONO ACT976 {Click Info Button for Alternate/OEM Part Numbers} ProACT Ultra Premium Ceramic Pad; Includes Shims Info
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[oljedi11950]

Looks good to me , not sure you need slotted rotors but anyway yes :thumb::couch2:

 

[Cory619]

Looks good to me , not sure you need slotted rotors but anyway yes :thumb::couch2:

I hear slotted are what the cool kids are running these days lol

 

[oljedi11950]

HAHAHA well yes of course but when it comes time to turn em , plus I noticed when I had them on my Tacoma made a swooshing noise that bugged the shit outta me trying to figure it out just sayin !!!

 

[N4RNR]

Looking to do this mod as well. Out of curiosity, what do people think about the different type of rotors (slotted, drilled, plain, etc) for a vehicle like the 4runner. For a vehicle that is used off roading and in mud, is there any concern using one type over the other (debris collecting in slotted or drilled, etc, or is this even an issue)? Thanks.

 

[sag19]

Dropping a dime on anything but blank rotors is a waste of money. Properly drilled (most arent) can let some gases escape better (not an issue on modern passenger vehicles) and can be benificial in the rain on huge race brake setups with lots of surface area. They also help clean high temp high friction pads (prevent glazing) but are prone to stress cracking. Slotted came about to clean pads without using drilled that can crack.

If you want the best performance dont overlook fluid because thats where most of your heat dissipation comes from. Do a good flush with good higher temp fluid if you have "fade" issues and if that doesnt help then you need to reevaluate your shitty driving and be better on the pedal and using lower gears.

If you just want it for looks then carry on i guess

 

[Runn4est]

Just the rears right now -- Got OEM Calipers (they were a steal @ $150 for the pair!), Akebono Ceramic Pads with Wagner Rotors (I read that Wagner is an OEM Manufacturer). So far, even just the rears, the brakes feel much better. I was surprised that it would make much of a difference in the rear since it's essentially all the same. Maybe it's just new vs old, and sticky vs. smooth operation haha.

 

[Cory619]

Good to know. I think I'll go with the blanks. Also after reading a PM from a member I think I'll go with an '04 set up for the rear so the parking brake isn't a problem. I'll stay with a Gen 5 setup in the front. The biggest reason for going to a Gen 5 setup is because of the Gen 4 Caliper pistons seizing. I already had this happen.

Appreciate the feedback. All of the threads on this issue get jumbled and confusing because everyone does so many different things. I just want to be one and done. And have a safe setup.

 

[Gatafly]

Good to know. I think I'll go with the blanks. Also after reading a PM from a member I think I'll go with an '04 set up for the rear so the parking brake isn't a problem. I'll stay with a Gen 5 setup in the front. The biggest reason for going to a Gen 5 setup is because of the Gen 4 Caliper pistons seizing. I already had this happen.

Appreciate the feedback. All of the threads on this issue get jumbled and confusing because everyone does so many different things. I just want to be one and done. And have a safe setup.

Glad you came to this conclusion as I was going to suggest exactly what you said.

 

[ZebRuaj]

Did you check if the calipers are an "unfinished" coating?

Should've taken the time to paint them for an extra 5hp each .. or prevent them from surface rust.

 

[AuSeeker]

Just the rears right now -- Got OEM Calipers (they were a steal @ $150 for the pair!), Akebono Ceramic Pads with Wagner Rotors (I read that Wagner is an OEM Manufacturer). So far, even just the rears, the brakes feel much better. I was surprised that it would make much of a difference in the rear since it's essentially all the same. Maybe it's just new vs old, and sticky vs. smooth operation haha.

Where did you buy the OEM calipers?

If online do you have a link?

 

[Runn4est]

Good to know. I think I'll go with the blanks. Also after reading a PM from a member I think I'll go with an '04 set up for the rear so the parking brake isn't a problem. I'll stay with a Gen 5 setup in the front. The biggest reason for going to a Gen 5 setup is because of the Gen 4 Caliper pistons seizing. I already had this happen.

Appreciate the feedback. All of the threads on this issue get jumbled and confusing because everyone does so many different things. I just want to be one and done. And have a safe setup.

This is the second time I've heard someone mention the parking brake. What's the issue? I hadn't read that and did the full swap with no issues. My parking brake works. Wasn't until after I did the install that someone made mention of it.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/JRqoxtQQQPrkwB3m1

 

[Runn4est]

Where did you buy the OEM calipers?

If online do you have a link?

Unfortunately, they've been in my garage for a year haha. I picked them up from a member who was selling a brand new pair. Got lucky for sure.

 

[ZebRuaj]

This is the second time I've heard someone mention the parking brake. What's the issue? I hadn't read that and did the full swap with no issues. My parking brake works. Wasn't until after I did the install that someone made mention of it.

The parking brake can get stuck inside the hat of the rear rotor, caught on a rust/wear ridge or is really tight so you can't pull the rotor off.

You can back off the star wheel to help remove the rotor. You're suppose to recheck the bite of the parking brake after replacing a rotor anyways.

 

[Prommy]

You're suppose to recheck the bite of the parking brake after replacing a rotor anyways.

Can confirm. Had a near catastrophic parking brake failure just before vacation after an axle seal replacement. Luckily I was not but a few hundred feet from home, so just removed the whole unit until I had time to reset it.

 

[ZiaMan]

I've read about 2/3 of the 50 something paged 5th gen brake thread.

People go with Centric calipers because they use brand new caliper pistons. The rear calipers however, are not powder coated. The front have diff part numbers for powdercoated and non.

The Powerstop are red powder coated but unknown on the pistons.

 

[Runn4est]

The parking brake can get stuck inside the hat of the rear rotor, caught on a rust/wear ridge or is really tight so you can't pull the rotor off.

You can back off the star wheel to help remove the rotor. You're suppose to recheck the bite of the parking brake after replacing a rotor anyways.

I posted a link to a video I made of my parking brake working after the install because someone a while back didn't believe me that my parking brake worked. I did all the proper brake adjustments after the install. I'm asking why people say you can't switch to 5th gen rotors.

Also, there's bolt holes in the rotor that you can screw into to back the rotor off the hub if it's on there too snug.

 

[4RunArt]

I have gone through 2 sets of stock Toyota calipers ( frozen ) in 5 years with my '04. Toyota blames the fact that I tow with it regularly, even though when I tow I use and electronic brake to stop the trailer.

I think this is going to be an upgrade I take care of this summer. Interested in seeing how this goes with some miles on it.