Chrysler flooded with over 8,000 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel orders in 3 days

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original article : Chrysler flooded with over 8,000 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel orders in 3 days - Autoblog

The diesel, half-ton pickup has long been a Holy Grail to many truck fans, largely because of its potential to achieve both high payload and great fuel economy. Strange, then, that auto companies have seemingly been slow to react. However, Chrysler is finally wading into the pool for the 2014 model year with a version of its Ram 1500 pickup, and early claimed returns are showing the advantage of being first on the market. The Auburn Hills automaker has just revealed that its initial allocation of 8,000 EcoDiesel trucks has been filled by dealers in just three days.

That flood of orders came from February 7-10, and that strong surge of interest apparently amounts to a new Ram record for the number of customer orders placed for a vehicle in such a short period of time. In fact, EcoDiesel models accounted for over half of Ram 1500 orders over that period, despite the fact that the diesel option costs several thousand dollars more than a comparable gasoline-engined model. That impressive total did not come entirely as a shock to Ram officials, however: "We knew customers have been asking for it," Nick Cappa, Ram Truck communications officer, tells Autoblog.

The 2014 Ram 1500 with its 3.0-liter EcoDiesel V6 and standard eight-speed TorqueFlight automatic makes 240 horsepower and 420 pound-feet – a combination good for 9,200 pounds of towing. Despite that pulling power, its fuel economy is rated at 28 miles per gallon highway (the best among trucks in its class), 20 mpg city and 23 mpg combined. Four-wheel drive variants gives up a single mpg in all categories.

Production of 2014 model-year trucks began in February, and shipments start in March. Ram expects EcoDiesel models to account for 10-15 percent of 1500-series orders this year. Another 8,000 units are allocated for March production, and according to Cappa, Ram has room to ramp up production if needed. In case you were wondering, you're not out of luck if you still want to get in on the first allocation of diesels. Individual customer orders take priority over dealers in Ram's computer system, so each one means fewer truck sitting on dealer lots. Scroll down for the full details.
 
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Emissions, emissions, emissions.

Our laws are very hostile to non-commercial diesels.

Also, I'm predicting a "real world" MPG if 17-18 mpg, not that 28 BS Chrysler has paid the news agencies to report.
 
My buddy is a finance manager for a Ram dealership just outside Austin. They had six pre ordered that arrived, sold them except for the display/test-driver, in one day. As of last week they had taken orders for 258 of the Ram with the Eco Diesel.

The best selling point according to him is available torque right from a dead stop for towing from a 1/2 ton. The dealership actually has a course for towing demo purposes right behind them using a 5,000lb covered trailer and a 20ft boat. Mileage is between 23 and 32mpgs according to those who work at the dealership who have driven the demo truck.

This is Chrysler though, so I have my doubts for any long term reliability. That said, I wish them the best. Nissan should have the 5.0 Cummings in it by 2016; the Tundra may receive the same engine. GM also has a small diesel coming in the Colorado and Canyon. I guess Ford is really betting the farm on their Ecoboost platform.
 
once you get rid of the erg, dpf, and urea systems and all the other government regulated BS that makes diesels "cleaner", you'll see the MPG jump way up, power too. my buddy has a ram with a cummins in it, and he keeps all the emissions crap around so that when it needs to pass inspection, it all goes back on, but once he gets back from the test, its back to the way it was
 
I've been seriously considering this truck for a while now. All road test I've read have reported real world mpg comparable to what the EPA claims, some better. More torque, more space, more lux and better mpg than my 4runner make it a very tempting offer.

As much as everyone is going to claim "reliability" (and yes it is very much a concern) I know DOZENS of people that own these new generation rams with no issues. Also an extended warranty would be a must.
 
Someone please check the payload figures please. After you do that then comment on this new truck.

The vast majority of people that buy 1/2 ton trucks, use them as a daily driver.

Maybe they'll haul some bags of mulch from the home improvement store, or tow an 18-24' boat to the lake on occasion. It will do those things just fine, (assuming staying within it's various capacity ratings) and get better MPG than the other 1/2 ton trucks currently offered while doing so.

If people need more payload, there are always the 3/4 and 1 ton pick ups that cost more, and use more fuel.
 
As tempting as the ecodiesel sounds, all the emission crap on there ruins it for me. If you rarely do highway driving, the ecodiesel (or any other new diesel) is probably not for you. The DPF filter does require you to do highway driving now and then for at least 20 minutes. If you fail to comply with that, the DPF will clog and the vehicle will not start. I see the same thing happening if your doing so mountain exploring but I could be wrong.

That being said, I still want to drive one just to say I did.

As for the ecoboost, I own one. It is as close to driving a diesel as a gas motor can get. They are not perfect though. My truck has been good but many have issues. I won't be keeping my ecoboost for much longer as I am nearing the end of the warranty. Oh and my mpg is not so great with it. 15-16 avg.
 
^So you wouldn't take an 8-12 mpg increase because it would require you to drive on the highway for 20 minutes every once in a while?

Also I would imagine that you wouldn't see the same quantity of particulate matter out of this 3 litre as you get from the big diesel engines we're used to.
 
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As tempting as the ecodiesel sounds, all the emission crap on there ruins it for me. If you rarely do highway driving, the ecodiesel (or any other new diesel) is probably not for you. The DPF filter does require you to do highway driving now and then for at least 20 minutes. If you fail to comply with that, the DPF will clog and the vehicle will not start. I see the same thing happening if your doing so mountain exploring but I could be wrong.

That being said, I still want to drive one just to say I did.

As for the ecoboost, I own one. It is as close to driving a diesel as a gas motor can get. They are not perfect though. My truck has been good but many have issues. I won't be keeping my ecoboost for much longer as I am nearing the end of the warranty. Oh and my mpg is not so great with it. 15-16 avg.

since it is a diesel, the people that buy these will do what a TON of other diesel owners do and just delete the emissions garbage
 
My point on the payload comment: if you pick out the loaded 4X4 crew cab the payload goes down to around 500 lbs with the air ride suspension. I noticed it and I also read it at pickuptrucks.com. Yea it will pull a lot but you better put your wife on a weight loss program if you want to haul anything in the bed.
 
Ram's payload capacity is awful across the board, no doubt about it. The coil over ride is nice for the everyday owner, but falls short for the tradesman or landscaper. Its Chrysler for ya.

That said, the order numbers show, as another poster pointed out, that people want a midsize and even compact diesel. It is a niche in the truck market just beginning to be filled.
 
I'm more interested in the Colorado diesel that's coming out next year. It's a smaller truck (although it's still massive compared to the Taco).
 
^So you wouldn't take an 8-12 mpg increase because it would require you to drive on the highway for 20 minutes every once in a while?

Also I would imagine that you wouldn't see the same quantity of particulate matter out of this 3 litre as you get from the big diesel engines we're used to.

Of course the mpg increase would be great. Honestly, it probably work for me now, as I do spend more time on the highway. When I lived in the city is where it would be a problem. Bumper to bumper traffic morning and evening. Really no chance of going over 45 mph longer than a quarter mile. On top of that I didn't have the time to go for a 20 minute joy ride. IMHO, that is where ecodiesel owners will see an issue.

In theory, the 3.0L ecodiesel should produce half the soot of a 6.0L diesel. Of course, there are tons of variables with this. I actually expect it to do a little better than that. On the other hand, the DPF will be smaller. Depending on the size of the DPF, it could fill just as fast as the HD trucks. There have already been reports of Jeep owners having issues with the DPF filling, which locks out the engine from starting.

As for deleting the EPA crap, between Chrysler encrypting the ECM and the pressure from the EPA against the aftermarket developing the deletes, I think it will be a while before we see any deletes available. Even then, do you want to lose your warranty on your $45k truck? Especially a Dodge product.
 
The "ECO" part would keep my from even contemplating one. As other users mentioned all those emissions parts are complicated and expensive. Removing them isn't so simple anymore either. The tuners that allow you to run without that stuff for the 6.7 Powerstroke are all 1K+ just for the electronics alone. The EPA has cracked down and "deleting" all that fun stuff from your modern diesel gets pricey quick.


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