How easy is it to move the DRL to the Fogs?
Consolidated Lighting Info Thread
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How easy is it to move the DRL to the Fogs?
Angelo
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This is going to sound more smartass than I mean it to, but if you don't know how hard it'll be, it's probably more than you want to tackle by yourself. Here are some search results for people who have an independent fog light trigger or have DRL / Fog combo. Good luck.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/gsear...r.org/5th-gen-t4rs/&ref=&ss=12791j56556239j24
MalinoisRunner
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thank you danny!
XenonDepot
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To clarify, a CANbus would be needed for the high beams as well if they are the daytime running lights. With this setup, the DRL would be on at full power.
- Danny
RysiuM
New member
Let me clear it up as some people (including LEB Bulbs sellers) don't understand or misuse "CANBUS" terminology.
In some cars (modern equipped with fancy electronics) there are systems to detect burned bulb. Most systems check the continuity to ground "probing" bulbs with different current or voltage. Incandescent bulbs used in cars have very low resistance (few ohms) so the low current or low voltage "probing" does not turn on the bulb but is easy to detect as high resistance (or open circuit) by the system. Again, it has nothing to do with CANBUS as it is simple "burned bulb detection" not a "network communication".
To "cheat" the burned bulb detection system some car LED bulbs advertised as "CANBUS compatible" have a 100-150ohm resistor parallel with the bulb. While at low voltage (burned bulb detection system probing signal) LED is visible as open circuit, the resistor is seen as continuity. Just remember, that at 12V this resistor is a "dead weight" and added source of heat for the bulb. So if your car does not have burned bulb detection system avaid buying "CANBUS compatible" bulbs. They perform worse than bulbs not equipped with "CANBUS resistor".
So while our trucks have CANBUS (which is a way of communicating between different ECUs in a car) it does not mean we have "burned bulb detection systems". I may be wrong (please correct me if I am) but none of 5th generation lighting circuits are equipped with burned bulb detection system. All bulbs are simple turned on by relays or dimmers (puddle light and dome light).
There are two exceptions:
1. Blinkers are using simple method of measuring the current taken by bulbs (method used since 50-ths last century). If the current taken by the bulb (or set of bulbs connected to one side) is less than current taken by incandescent bulb the flasher unit (not ECU) will make the rapid flashing instead of normal 60-90 cycles per minute. It is known as "hyper-flashing" designed to bring driver's attention to the problem (and Police in some states or countries, as "hyper-flashing" is not legal). "CANBUS LED bulbs" do not make "hyper-flashing"go away. The only way to fix it is either connect a resistor (or bulb or any current draw device) parallel with blinker LED bulb so the flasher sees the "normal" current taken by the bulb. Other way to deal with the problem is to change the flasher for "LED compatible" one. As far as I know, nobody sales such flasher for 5th gen 4Runner so regardless how much I hate the 6ohm "resistor" solution it is the only possible options for us. Unfortunately.
2. In 5.5 gen 4Runers (2014+ models) the high beam bub is used also as a DRL (stupid IMHO). The high beam relay circuit (it is actually electronic circuit, not just a relay) turns high beam at lower power for DRL function. I don't know if it is lower voltage or PWM circuit but either way it messes up with LED or HID bulb internal circuits. It makes them either not working at all or going into flashing. There is no known solution to that, as I have not seen high power car LED bulbs capable of running in dual power mode or simple "dimming mode" (or I am wrong about it if Xenon Depot "CANBUS bulbs" can do that). The only known to me solution is DRL relocation. In short it is disabling the original DRL system (cutting some wires is required) and adding your own system.
My solution (I have 2012 model with DRL in blinkers, which is even more stupid than having it in high beams) was to cut DRL wire going to flasher and replacing original fog lamps with OSRAM LED DRL/FOG lamp combo. Guys with off-road front bumpers have more options as they can put separate DRL lamps on that bumper.
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MalinoisRunner
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great info rysiuM. thank you!
philsey
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There's a thread called "Consolidated Lighting Info" ... find that and read it.
No need to be a sarcastic prick. I was looking for a referral to a member or company that can do something like the custom. I don't have the knowledge, time or ability to do it myself.
mrblah
Senior Member
great attitude
Salvo Jimmy
Member
Might have helped if you had said that in first post. Certainly was not clear that was what you were looking for.
philsey
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So, did you read the thread, or do you just want Dad to do your homework for you?
You're right and my bad for not being more clear. I am looking for someone who knows how and wants to customize headlight and possibly taillights. Individual or company.
I want you to do my hw for me
philsey
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Yeah, here's the thing: if I do it for you, I'll have to do it for all the other lazy kids.
:bash:
philsey
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Retrofitted Gen 5.0 headlights FS
For any of you lighting enthusiasts, here is a set of retrofitted Gen. 5.0 headlights FS. FWIW, FXRs are great lights.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/80618-5th-gen-sale-wanted-thread-518.html#post2701878
For any of you lighting enthusiasts, here is a set of retrofitted Gen. 5.0 headlights FS. FWIW, FXRs are great lights.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/80618-5th-gen-sale-wanted-thread-518.html#post2701878
MaddoxPics
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Was interested in the Xenon LED lights for the low and high beams, but was wondering if anyone has had any issues installing them.
I have a pair of HIDNY LED's for my CR-V (2016) which supposedly are the same bulbs the 4Runner (2017) uses, however when I went to swap them out neither would work.
The low beams actually wouldn't snap into place with the plug and play that comes with the bulb. It appears that it "fits," but just wont snap into place. The high beam on the other hand snaps right in like it should and did on the CR-V, however it won't turn on.
According to the Xenon website the low is H11 and the High is 9005, which is the same for the CR-V, so I'm a bit confused at why they aren't working correctly.
For those who have bought the Xenon ones for the 4Runner, did they fit correctly? Did you have to do anything to get them to work? Trying to trouble shoot what my issue could be as I would assume there's no difference between the two.
I have a pair of HIDNY LED's for my CR-V (2016) which supposedly are the same bulbs the 4Runner (2017) uses, however when I went to swap them out neither would work.
The low beams actually wouldn't snap into place with the plug and play that comes with the bulb. It appears that it "fits," but just wont snap into place. The high beam on the other hand snaps right in like it should and did on the CR-V, however it won't turn on.
According to the Xenon website the low is H11 and the High is 9005, which is the same for the CR-V, so I'm a bit confused at why they aren't working correctly.
For those who have bought the Xenon ones for the 4Runner, did they fit correctly? Did you have to do anything to get them to work? Trying to trouble shoot what my issue could be as I would assume there's no difference between the two.
pmostaghim
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thanks angelo - sooooooo helpful.
