Daystar 2.5 w/ XREAS or Bilstein 5100

Neauxla

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Considering the COMFORT of ride ONLY....which one of these lifts is better?

I do not offroad and the only offroading I may ever do would be trails to get to a hunting or fishing camp and of course New Orleans' pothole infested streets. I simply want more ground clearance so I can put some 275 60R20 Michelin LTX A/T2s on my 4runner.

Which will give me a better ride? and if the Bilsteins...HOW much better?
 
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"...I simply want more ground clearance so I can put some 275 60R20 Michelin LTX A/T2s on my 4runner.

Which will give me a better ride? and if the Bilsteins...HOW much better?"

Hi Neauxla,

Would it matter if you ran 275/60/20 or a 275/55/20 (5% height diff)? The latter will fit with "NO LIFT"! Cheers
 
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I'm trying to get more sidewall and a slightly more aggressive stance with minimal decrease in MPG.

275 55R20s sidewall height increase is negligible.
 
Highway speeds aren't much different in ride, slow speeds the bilsteins will be a little better, mid speed will be worse then Xreas, all of this on road. Bumpy gravel roads and off-road bilsteins blow away Xreas. That's just my opinion and with a slight lift compared to stock Xreas, it's all subjective.

Can't speak to the body lift, but why not just do the top plate spacer in front with new tires and call it good if it's just for looks? Cheapest option
 
Can't speak to the body lift, but why not just do the top plate spacer in front with new tires and call it good if it's just for looks? Cheapest option

I was considering the Daystar Comfortride spacer lift. Do I only need to lift/level the front for the tires to fit?
 
I was considering the Daystar Comfortride spacer lift. Do I only need to lift/level the front for the tires to fit?

Those that have done it had issues in the front, search and you'll see what they did, seems like just moving the fender liner, but I don't know as I went with 17's. It's also something you could install yourself most likely. Personally I would just go with bilsteins as [MENTION=103267]Saker[/MENTION] points out, it's a better way, although more expensive. But the spacer is cheap and many folks do it. Depends on the height and driving you want/do.
 
Depends on the height and driving you want/do.

I'm limited on what I CAN do. My parking garage is only 6.5' and I'm getting a rack from drabbits.

I would like to get some beefier springs in the back though for towing my boat. Except all the ones I have seen with more load capacity raise my rear end at least 2"

Suggestions?
 
You have a lot of questions. While they are covered extensively in older posts let me see if I can help in one post:
Considering the COMFORT of ride ONLY....which one of these lifts is better?

I do not offroad and the only offroading I may ever do would be trails to get to a hunting or fishing camp and of course New Orleans' pothole infested streets. I simply want more ground clearance so I can put some 275 60R20 Michelin LTX A/T2s on my 4runner.

Which will give me a better ride? and if the Bilsteins...HOW much better?
So you don't off road at all.
I'm trying to get more sidewall and a slightly more aggressive stance with minimal decrease in MPG.

275 55R20s sidewall height increase is negligible.
You want a mall crawler. Check.
I was considering the Daystar Comfortride spacer lift. Do I only need to lift/level the front for the tires to fit?
With a lift or level your tires WILL rub. Without a lift or level your tires WILL rub. See, even though tires are a specific size, that size is nominal. Your new tires could be bigger, or smaller, than the nominal dimensions hence the chance of rubbing either way. The parts that rub will get lifted but unfortunately not out of the way. Now if you go with aftermarket wheels with a different BS then all bets are off and they still will rub.
I'm limited on what I CAN do. My parking garage is only 6.5' and I'm getting a rack from drabbits.
I would like to get some beefier springs in the back though for towing my boat. Except all the ones I have seen with more load capacity raise my rear end at least 2"

Suggestions?

Airbags for the rear to keep from sagging would be my suggestion.

If you want a lift for looks, and it sounds like you do, then go the spacer route. Its cheap and you get to keep a $2K OEM suspension system. Why? You don't go off road so you do not NEED anything else. The bigger tires WILL rub, depending on many things. My advice here would be go get your spacer lift, go get your tires and then modify as necessary. Oh, those "many things that WILL cause your tires to rub a lot worse?
1. Factory caster setting
2. New tire actual outside diameter
3. New wheel offset
4. Actual location of inner fender liner. (they could differ from vehicle to vehicle by a bit)

Take a look at the tire fitment guide in my signature. You will rub... a lot. You will possibly have to do a body mount chop, remove mudflaps, trim behind them, move the fender liner forward, trim the front cover. You might have to get aftermarket UCA's to adjust your caster higher.

Now, you might not have to do all these things but I can guarantee you will have to do some of them. Even a 3" lift won't keep you from having to do some of these things. Hope this helps and good luck. Oh, you will probably need to run a wider rim judging from the section width of 33's.
One more thing: Your gas mileage will take a hit. Tires are much larger diameter and much heavier. How much of a hit depends on how much city versus highway driving you do. More city = worse gas mileage. Your acceleration will suffer as well. Many running that size actually re gear.
 
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Please re read my post. I misread you new tire size initially and went back and edited it after realizing my mistake.

I saw your edit. But I also saw [MENTION=47900]fins[/MENTION] say this:

Toyo Open Country AT 275/60-20 on LE wheels and stock height. No rubbing. No trimming. Routinely rotated and pushing 60k miles with very little wear.


Will air bags work with spacers?
 
I saw your edit. But I also saw [MENTION=47900]fins[/MENTION] say this:




Will air bags work with spacers?

I won't argue with you. Your tire will be a larger diameter than a 285/17. How many of you guys out there put 285 or 305 size 17's on there without any cutting or trimming?
 
I won't argue with you. Your tire will be a larger diameter than a 285/17. How many of you guys out there put 285 or 305 size 17's on there without any cutting or trimming?

Funny you should ask, I just today put on 285x70x17 without cutting or trimming. That said, I have a full lift, new UCA's, and had to get it aligned to make it work and to use your catch phrase from your previous post "it rubs" :)

It only BARELY rubs (more like a gentle :kiss: than a rub really) at full turn lock though, so after the tire wears down about 1/16" it won't :kiss: my fender liners anymore.
 
I'm limited on what I CAN do. My parking garage is only 6.5' and I'm getting a rack from drabbits.

I would like to get some beefier springs in the back though for towing my boat. Except all the ones I have seen with more load capacity raise my rear end at least 2"

Suggestions?

Do you have 3rd row? If so I only got the advertised 1.5" from the SAW rear coils and they are 12% stiffer then stock I think. But then you are definitely going to be doing bstein shocks and out of pocket is going up.

On the tires, every company has slightly different specs even for the same size so that's why it's hard to answer unless someone has the exact setup you plan to put on.
 
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Yes, 3rd row.

I think I'm gonna go air bags and spacers.

Now I'm trying to decide between:

265 60R20 Goodyear Wrangler Adventures or Cooper Discoverer AT3s

OT

275 60R20 Michelin LTX AT/2
 
My advice would be to find someone nearby that has a spacer lift and take a test ride in it to see how it feels. You will probably change your mind. Especially when going over a speed bump, railroad track or as you mentioned a pot hole. The front will probably feel fine but the back will feel like you jumped off a 8' roof onto a concrete driveway. It will jar your teeth.

For bumpy street roads, I would consider finding some used 17" sr5 or trail wheels/tires on here. You could probably get a decent deal on some 265/70/17's from someone wanting to go with 285's for offroad. Maybe even come out about even with the cost of doing spacer lift.

Edit: If you are just putting in a spacer lift to get by until it is time for a full suspension then go for it. Also, try to find someone with a lift you are interested in and take a ride in that as well to get a feel for both before deciding.

Good luck in your decision.
 
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