Dobinsons 5th Gen T4R Suspension options - from Exit Offroad
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Endle55_5earch
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Can I use the Dobinsons 2" lift springs (314 Fronts/327 Rear) and keep the shocks on my TRD PRO?
No, the OEM shock diameter on the Pro isn't compatible with the "standard" Dobinsons springs for the front. Also, I'm not positive, but the 327 rear spring might be out of the range of travel for the OEM rear shock
Endle55_5earch
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Ah gotcha, thanks!
macscac
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Just looking for opinions.
I currently have this setup.
Dobinson’s c59-505 in rear and c59-314 in the front so it’s a 1.5 lift in the rear and 3” in the front.
I have dobinsons UCA’s as well
While my fender gap appears equal front to back, I actually have a smidge of reverse rake.
Should I go 1/2” taller in the rear or 1” ?
I have no plans to add more weight. I just want a smidge more rake
Pic for current stance
Thanks
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I currently have this setup.
Dobinson’s c59-505 in rear and c59-314 in the front so it’s a 1.5 lift in the rear and 3” in the front.
I have dobinsons UCA’s as well
While my fender gap appears equal front to back, I actually have a smidge of reverse rake.
Should I go 1/2” taller in the rear or 1” ?
I have no plans to add more weight. I just want a smidge more rake
Pic for current stance
Thanks
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Globetrotter78
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Just got my Dobinsons installed and they are fantastic! I got mine coated in red (sacrilegious I know) but now they match my JBA UCAs. Mike was fantastic helping me choose the right spring for my (future) needs. Quality product and service for sure!
SpeedyKevin
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Pictures man, pictures!
Globetrotter78
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I tried but ALL my phone pics are evidently too large and the stupid uploader doesnt seem to autoconvert to the allowable size. Am I doing something wrong? The other forums Ive been with just resized them when they were uploaded..
MAST4R
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Just looking for opinions.
I currently have this setup.
Dobinson’s c59-505 in rear and c59-314 in the front so it’s a 1.5 lift in the rear and 3” in the front.
I have dobinsons UCA’s as well
While my fender gap appears equal front to back, I actually have a smidge of reverse rake.
Should I go 1/2” taller in the rear or 1” ?
I have no plans to add more weight. I just want a smidge more rake
Pic for current stance
Thanks
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
I would go lower in the front, preferably a full inch if you want to haul any loads without a reverse rake.
I don't think that 3/2.5 will get you a single trail over 2/1.5 but it will stress more various components.
Personally, I am fine with my 1.25/1 for everything I want to drive in AZ or UT. We drove Backaway to CK, Broken Arrow, Fins and Things, among others, with no lift, for example. I did appreciate the 1.25/1 lift on a loaded vehicle on Elephant Hill but otherwise I find the quality of the aftermarket springs a bigger upgrade than the lift itself. By this I mean that the Dobinsons (or Eibach) springs take much better on dips and rocks and steps and that between two 4Rs at the same height where one has stock coils and one Dobinsons coils, the latter will be hitting less than the fully stock one.
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Globetrotter78
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Lets try this....
I dont have a resized pic after install but I pulled this from another post I did from work and was able to shrink.
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BLVCK4
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lots of pages here on useful info I am sure, but I want to confirm I am looking at the right info for the lift I want to achieve. No front/ rear bumpers, No winch, No drawer system. Maybe a hitch mounted spare tire carrier down the road.
I have a 2010 SR5 4X4 all stock
Fronts -
C59-302 - Stock front end load, 2.5" lift (or comfort option C59-448 for 3" lift). 395/395mm, 17mm wire, 586LB
Rear -
C59-599 - Stock rear end, 1.0"-1.25" lift (keeps rear end low, allowing to help level the vehicle rake with 2" front lift). 390/390mm, 17mm wire, 220LB or C59-505 - Stock rear end load, 1.5" lift. 405/405mm, 17mm wire, 220LB
Paired with -
GS59-700 - Twin Tube, fixed mount (not adjustable), suits 0-2.5" lift (21.3" extended length), can be used on stock height or lifted vehicle, use with OE or aftermarket coils, coil seat mount same as OE
&
GS59-701 - Twin Tube, suits 0-2.5" lift. 605mm extended, 362mm compressed
I will run TC UCA's.
Anything else???
TIA
I have a 2010 SR5 4X4 all stock
Fronts -
C59-302 - Stock front end load, 2.5" lift (or comfort option C59-448 for 3" lift). 395/395mm, 17mm wire, 586LB
Rear -
C59-599 - Stock rear end, 1.0"-1.25" lift (keeps rear end low, allowing to help level the vehicle rake with 2" front lift). 390/390mm, 17mm wire, 220LB or C59-505 - Stock rear end load, 1.5" lift. 405/405mm, 17mm wire, 220LB
Paired with -
GS59-700 - Twin Tube, fixed mount (not adjustable), suits 0-2.5" lift (21.3" extended length), can be used on stock height or lifted vehicle, use with OE or aftermarket coils, coil seat mount same as OE
&
GS59-701 - Twin Tube, suits 0-2.5" lift. 605mm extended, 362mm compressed
I will run TC UCA's.
Anything else???
TIA
macscac
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actually i think i am just going to leave it.
I will be getting either a half or full front bumper w/ winch in the next 12 months and that weight will pull the front down a little as is and then i think it will be fine.
Crikeymike
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It's the wonderful version of this forum software that's limiting you. Yes, every other forum works like it's 2019. LOL
Crikeymike
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Sounds like a good setup. If you do think you will add the rear hitch mounted carrier, you might want to go with C59-505 on the rear so that you can support the extra leverage that it adds.
BLVCK4
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Finally installed!
Back in early January, I asked Mike@Dobinsons for some recommendations. I wanted a slight lift, wasn't concerned about eliminating the rake, and wanted an on-road ride at least as good as stock. Usage was mostly on-road/highway, with Forest Service and Ranch roads, light trails, some towing of a light boat and ATVs on trailers. My new-to-me T4R has 94K miles on it, much of it in the NE, so install was a messy, rusty endeavor.
Can't emphasize enough just how on-target Mike's recommendations were. Only about 15 miles after the install and no alignment yet, so they may be some settling, but here you go. Ride is more compliant than stock, smoother overall with less "jolt" on both high and low speed bumps and upsets. Less likelihood to "hop" over washboard. Less body roll even with the KDSS.
Currently on E-rated Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor 265/70s. May have to run 285s after all (or at least a beefier 265)!
C59-300 over GS59-700 in front
C59-723 with GS59-705 in rear
Firestone Ride Rite airbags installed in the event I tow heavy.
Before/after
DF-34 1/4 to 36 3/8
PF-34 1/8 to 36 1/2
DR-36 7/8 to 38 1/2
PR-36 5/8 to 38 1/2
Before/after side and quartering:
Back in early January, I asked Mike@Dobinsons for some recommendations. I wanted a slight lift, wasn't concerned about eliminating the rake, and wanted an on-road ride at least as good as stock. Usage was mostly on-road/highway, with Forest Service and Ranch roads, light trails, some towing of a light boat and ATVs on trailers. My new-to-me T4R has 94K miles on it, much of it in the NE, so install was a messy, rusty endeavor.
Can't emphasize enough just how on-target Mike's recommendations were. Only about 15 miles after the install and no alignment yet, so they may be some settling, but here you go. Ride is more compliant than stock, smoother overall with less "jolt" on both high and low speed bumps and upsets. Less likelihood to "hop" over washboard. Less body roll even with the KDSS.
Currently on E-rated Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor 265/70s. May have to run 285s after all (or at least a beefier 265)!
C59-300 over GS59-700 in front
C59-723 with GS59-705 in rear
Firestone Ride Rite airbags installed in the event I tow heavy.
Before/after
DF-34 1/4 to 36 3/8
PF-34 1/8 to 36 1/2
DR-36 7/8 to 38 1/2
PR-36 5/8 to 38 1/2
Before/after side and quartering:
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SpeedyKevin
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sn_85
Senior Member
Upgraded my 675V to 701V prior to my trip to Moab. Very happy with the height they give even loaded up. We carried 10 days worth of gear and food and still had a little rake in the rear. Thanks again, Mike!
How does it handle unloaded in the rear?
dot_tom
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Rides great IMO. I do have a rear bumper and spare tire to help.
Here is the only unloaded side shot I have. There is close to 2" rake front to rear unloaded. My front is barely a 2.5" lift. I finally have a factory rake when unloaded. Close to level when loaded up. Keep in mind, the previous pictured even had two Yeti's packed in the back.
Wish I had gone 701V first time around.
