Crikeymike
Senior Member
Check out the first post for the coil heights. 574 struts add ~1" lift to those coil heights.
302 and 574 is more like 3.25" minimum lift height
Dobinsons 5th Gen T4R Suspension options - from Exit Offroad
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302 and 574 is more like 3.25" minimum lift height
Crikeymike
Senior Member
No worries, was probably typing at the same time.
Since almost everyone ends up adding a bumper or winch or lights or some weight at some time, 302 with 574 is the most common go-to so that you'll not 3" minimum after settling and everything, or if weight is added.
Pavel.z.sfo
New member
Hi Mike,
I'd like to get the springs while those are 15% off and wanted to check which of the two you think is a better option for 4R with KDSS:
1. C59-302 and C59-723
2. C59-302 and C59-505 and PS59-4023 (to compensate for the lean)
I have stock weight at front/rear and have no plans for heavy bumpers in the future.
I'd like to get the springs while those are 15% off and wanted to check which of the two you think is a better option for 4R with KDSS:
1. C59-302 and C59-723
2. C59-302 and C59-505 and PS59-4023 (to compensate for the lean)
I have stock weight at front/rear and have no plans for heavy bumpers in the future.
Mike,
Based on the research of this thread I've come to a conclusion with the lift that would work for my lift. Goal is to run 285/70/17 with wheels at a -18 offset. Which has the advantage? Best to got all lift from spring or shock and spring (option 2)
Option 1 (2.75/1.5-1.75)
C59-300
GS59-574
C59-505
GS59-705
Option 2 ( 2.5/1.5-1.75)
C59-302
GS59700
C59-505
GS59-705
I don't plan on running anything other than a roof rack and sliders. No bumpers.
Other Option would be a true 3" lift...
Alternative Option for 3" (3/2)
C59-314 (Unloaded 3"?)
gs59-700
C59-325
GS-705
Based on the research of this thread I've come to a conclusion with the lift that would work for my lift. Goal is to run 285/70/17 with wheels at a -18 offset. Which has the advantage? Best to got all lift from spring or shock and spring (option 2)
Option 1 (2.75/1.5-1.75)
C59-300
GS59-574
C59-505
GS59-705
Option 2 ( 2.5/1.5-1.75)
C59-302
GS59700
C59-505
GS59-705
I don't plan on running anything other than a roof rack and sliders. No bumpers.
Other Option would be a true 3" lift...
Alternative Option for 3" (3/2)
C59-314 (Unloaded 3"?)
gs59-700
C59-325
GS-705
Crikeymike
Senior Member
Option 1 is what I'd normally suggest
Crikeymike
Senior Member
Option 2 is what 75% or more of the guys on here are running, for a great ride, good lift height, and more clearance. That's my recommendation here for you.
3" requires UCA's to ride properly.
Some guys have run option 1 for the most travel in the front, since those 574 struts are a bit longer, plus also, if you think you ever will want to upgrade to a taller 3"+ lift, you'll have the struts for it already and would just need taller coils, and add UCA's.
For those that have installed 3/2 lift I have question. I just installed 352/574 and 505/705 in rear along with jba high caster ucas. I'll admit I got a deal on 352s in red thats why I'm currently running those but miss order 302s when I meant to order 314s. I was told that this setup would net a 3" lift in front. I noticed after everything was buttoned up the abs wires are pretty tight anyone have a solution? Also how many are running the diff drop? Did it help angles and anyone running a skid with it?
352's with 574 struts and no added front weight?
Correct one reason I got them was I plan on putting one on pry early summer and was given some bad info from couple guys that it wouldnt be that rough a ride even without. Planning on returning the 302s for 314s but waiting in the red to come in that was a recommendation from one of the guys at dobinsons for the 3" as per them the 302s will net 2.5"
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16RedRunner
New member
so with these in front and the 505/705 in the rear I should have a slight rake then correct?
302 & 574 would be around 3" front lift and 505 & 705 would be around 1.5" lift in the rear. You would maybe have .25 or .50" of rake depending on how much rake you currently have. I measured my rake and with an unloaded victory 4x4 full rack and rsg angled sliders, I have 2.4" of rake. You're probably looking at a level ride with this lift. Just my guess.
Just finished putting dobinsons kit on front and rear. With the 352s front is sitting between 24.5 and 25. The rear with 505s is 24.5. Anyone running similar setup and can give height measurements. Afraid front end may be to high as abs wires dont have much slack and CV angles are pretty steep.
I have 314's with 574s; aluminum IFS/Trans/T-Case skids, sliders, dual batteries, slimline steel bumper, and a winch, and I couldn't imagine going with a taller front spring. With stock front weight I wouldn't want to go more than the 302 spring.
I'm far from an expert on this, but I would say you have substantially over-sprung the front end
The 314 and 352s are same height just different spring rate but I agree. Debating on putting 302s in but I was planning on sticking with red springs over the black. Yes do like cosmetics. Do you have your fender measurements?
Just installed the Dobinsons C59-300, C59-599 springs. Tires are Falken Wildpeaks in a 275/70R17 flavor. I love it. 
Center of hub to bottom of fender measurements added below.
Post lift
Front L- 22.5" Total Gain- 2.25"
Front R- 22.75" Total Gain- 2.5"
Rear L- 23.5" Total Gain- 1.5"
Rear R - 23.75" Total Gain- 1.5"
Center of hub to bottom of fender measurements added below.
Post lift
Front L- 22.5" Total Gain- 2.25"
Front R- 22.75" Total Gain- 2.5"
Rear L- 23.5" Total Gain- 1.5"
Rear R - 23.75" Total Gain- 1.5"
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Mastr_chief
New member
Do you have any rubbing with this setup?
Prior to lifting it it with the 275's it rubbed the mudflap and the inside edge of the front bumper cover in reverse at full steering lock. No rubbing after the lift was installed.
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