Eimkieth exhaust drama

[D'arce]

So I have absolutely no issues with the bumper, its beautiful. My problem came when I went to have the exhaust run. My muffler guy was cussing up a storm and he finally decided to dump it out the side ahead of the rear tire. He said take it somewhere else lol. Any body else have any exhaust drama? It looks tight in there for sure but certainly doable. He really yelled at me when I offered to get him a length of the flexible dryer vent style exhaust pipe from Advanced Auto.

His issue was that the pipe would interfere with the sway bar link as it cycles through its range of motion.

 

[Doc2012]

Maybe pics would help?


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[Devbot]

I'm already under a very heavy impression he's as much a mechanic as the crackhead at the end of my road. Let me get this straight here: he somehow couldn't manage to keep the exhaust pipe from hitting the sway bar links as it exited the muffler, so instead of figuring it out and keeping it how it was designed to be, FAR away from the end links - he routed it ahead of the tires even closer to the sway bar link? And he wants you to believe that he, a guy that does this for a living, couldn't figure out an incredibly basic replacement/install that many have been able to do in their driveway with FAR less experience than him?
What a total crock, I would love to hear him explain himself especially considering how little the links actually "travel" when used. I hope you didn't pay them much, really you should've refused payment until they did it right but a bit late for that now. Don't be bullied into things, if they get loud then you get loud RIGHT BACK at them. If they want to make a scene, then play their game and raise hell from here to sunday school - it's their job on the line, not yours; you're just a customer and it's their job to treat you with respect regardless of your own mechanical inclination.
You could always reach out to [MENTION=28464]eimkeith[/MENTION], whether it be through email or through this forum. He's very active and responsive to any inquiries

Edit: I was reading this thinking maybe eimkeith made an exhaust I didn't know about but now I realize you're referring to the bumper, and looking at eimkeith's website I'm assuming you went with the fuel tank relocation as well which is why the tail pipe had to be moved? That makes more sense

 

[Doc2012]

I'm already under a very heavy impression he's as much a mechanic as the crackhead at the end of my road. Let me get this straight here: he somehow couldn't manage to keep the exhaust pipe from hitting the sway bar links as it exited the muffler, so instead of figuring it out and keeping it how it was designed to be, FAR away from the end links - he routed it ahead of the tires even closer to the sway bar link? And he wants you to believe that he, a guy that does this for a living, couldn't figure out an incredibly basic replacement/install that many have been able to do in their driveway with FAR less experience than him?
What a total crock, I would love to hear him explain himself especially considering how little the links actually "travel" when used. I hope you didn't pay them much, really you should've refused payment until they did it right but a bit late for that now. Don't be bullied into things, if they get loud then you get loud RIGHT BACK at them. If they want to make a scene, then play their game and raise hell from here to sunday school - it's their job on the line, not yours; you're just a customer and it's their job to treat you with respect regardless of your own mechanical inclination.
You could always reach out to [MENTION=28464]eimkeith[/MENTION], whether it be through email or through this forum. He's very active and responsive to any inquiries

I mean; you nailed it.

Was gonna give a bit of benefit until we saw what was underneath. [emoji2369]


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[T4topher]

So I have absolutely no issues with the bumper, its beautiful. My problem came when I went to have the exhaust run. My muffler guy was cussing up a storm and he finally decided to dump it out the side ahead of the rear tire. He said take it somewhere else lol. Any body else have any exhaust drama? It looks tight in there for sure but certainly doable. He really yelled at me when I offered to get him a length of the flexible dryer vent style exhaust pipe from Advanced Auto.

His issue was that the pipe would interfere with the sway bar link as it cycles through its range of motion.

Sounds like maybe he was trying to run it under the frame instead of over the frame? Do you have a 1” body lift version or non body lift version? Did you build the bumper or have a shop do it?

 

[Sparky 97Runner]

I went to Eimkieth website and found this under Q and A...........


Exhaust
Q – Integrated hole to tuck exhaust into?!?!

A – Yes! I set it up so you can go over the frame at the rear of the wheel
well and out the side of the bumper (with a 1″ body lift and some pinch
weld trimming) – even with a rear-mounted fuel tank.


So.....hopefully you have a 1" body lift??? I would contact Eimkieth to point you in the right direction.

 

[jkeith.w]

pictures?

 

[96RedRunner]

Yep some pics - sounds like wrong place wrong time kind of shop.

 

[D'arce]

Sorry it took so long to get back to this. I do have the 1" body lift and built the bumper myself. I did relocate the tank and I did not cut the pinch weld over the frame. Muffler guy told me not to bother. This guy builds race cars etc and knows how to use a pipe bender. I think he just flat out didn't want to do it and so he just hacked my truck up. I have some pictures in my build album I'll try and post here.

I also took it to another guy with a bender and he was hem hawing about it not being possible with 2.25 pipe and that it would have to be a two piece.

I really love how he put a bolt through my lower control arm mount and has the muffler resting on the frame so it vibrates.

 

[D'arce]

Another beauty...

 

[D'arce]

Looks like plenty of room to me.

 

[infamousRNR]

I'm guessing you know what your exhaust use to look like when it was routed in the stock location - but maybe it would be better to just have the muffler turn down and terminate right after the muffler instead of trying to route it through the circular hole in the eimkeith bumper? just a suggestion.

I def agree that the way the person installed it might not be the best long term solution.

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[D'arce]

I'm guessing you know what your exhaust use to look like when it was routed in the stock location - but maybe it would be better to just have the muffler turn down and terminate right after the muffler instead of trying to route it through the circular hole in the eimkeith bumper? just a suggestion.

I def agree that the way the person installed it might not be the best long term solution.

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Yes I would much rather have had it turn down instead of stick out the side a half a mile. Not sure if that would allow gasses into the cab at all.... It's just hard to find any body that gives a sh@! about quality work. But hey on the bright side he did paint his welds lol.

 

[Devbot]

Muffler guy told me not to bother. This guy builds race cars etc and knows how to use a pipe bender. I think he just flat out didn't want to do it and so he just hacked my truck up.

So do I and I can attest the industry is full of monkeys that barely know how to use a wrench, but I'm definitely leaning towards the latter. Seems like he ran into a bit of a hump, got frustrated and just didn't feel like figuring it out. There looks to be plenty of room to me.

 

[jkeith.w]

Sorry it took so long to get back to this. I do have the 1" body lift and built the bumper myself. I did relocate the tank and I did not cut the pinch weld over the frame. Muffler guy told me not to bother. This guy builds race cars etc and knows how to use a pipe bender. I think he just flat out didn't want to do it and so he just hacked my truck up. I have some pictures in my build album I'll try and post here.

I also took it to another guy with a bender and he was hem hawing about it not being possible with 2.25 pipe and that it would have to be a two piece.

I really love how he put a bolt through my lower control arm mount and has the muffler resting on the frame so it vibrates.

Man, I'm sorry - I didn't intend for this to be so much trouble; but I think you might be right - I'm in the process of renovating a diamond in the rough mountain house, but can't get any contractors to take me seriously (probably because of their preconceived notions of its value?) - I think we might a victim of this around here until the general public gets wind of the value of these Toyotas.

That said; GOOD fabricators don't lead with ego - they're accommodating in my experience. I hope you find THE guy near you who leads with his work, not his hubris.

 

[Doc2012]

Maybe you should look at the F150 tank swap thread my brother did; and how he routed his exhaust.


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[cl4Rk]

… he put a bolt through my lower control arm mount and has the muffler resting on the frame so it vibrates.

Yikes!!!

 

[phattyduck]

Looks like plenty of room to me.

Keep in mind that the body and frame do move a lot in comparison to each other, as does the exhaust to either. You'd want at least 1/2" on all sides, and probably more unless you want a fair amount of clanging, etc. The exhaust grows as much as 1/2" over its length when hot, which adds to the challenge.

He still should have done a better job...

-Charlie

 

[D'arce]

Man, I'm sorry - I didn't intend for this to be so much trouble; but I think you might be right - I'm in the process of renovating a diamond in the rough mountain house, but can't get any contractors to take me seriously (probably because of their preconceived notions of its value?) - I think we might a victim of this around here until the general public gets wind of the value of these Toyotas.

That said; GOOD fabricators don't lead with ego - they're accommodating in my experience. I hope you find THE guy near you who leads with his work, not his hubris.

The thing with your bumper is it raises the standards of fit and finish on these trucks required to bring it to conclusion. My goal with this build was that if I had to repair or replace something it was going to be better than factory. Thats why I jumped all over the F150 tank kit when my stock tank hangers rusted out. I adapted the fuel sender to work like factory and that makes me happy. Painted the tank and everything. No half a$$ jerry rigged work allowed. I recently helped weld up a Coastal front bumper and it was...ok. The owner is thrilled and it was a third of the price. That said it was just a bunch of flat stock cut to shape. In comparison, the level of detail on this bumper echos quality from every angle. Maybe for somebody that hasn't seen it in person would think I'm being goofy about it. I'm not just blowing smoke here...it actually improves the look of the truck imo. You can't say that about 90% of the offerings out there. They look like a huge chunk of steel hung off the frame in a rather crude fashion and in my mind brings down the value. That's what bugs me about the exhaust. I know this is a first world problem but if I can, I want it to function as intended without spending a fortune getting there lol. I found another fellow with a bender so hopefully that will pan out.

Whew sorry about the rant.