1engineer
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Maybe part of the Dealer new car prep?
Faulty Wheel Studs?
- Thread starter 4Surfin
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Maybe part of the Dealer new car prep?
wfo9
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Yea, I remember hearing about that one also. I wonder if the dual VVT-i 1gr still uses different brand plugs bank to bank since they finally switched to a iridium.
Toyota does some really goofy stuff like this and I have no idea why. My guess is, it is just to be cheap and cut cost. They also have strange relationships with suppliers that could cause odd parts bin mixes like this.
BlackWorksInc
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I missed the part about the watching your friend do the tightening. But to be honest we haven't seen a lot of issues with studs at the dealership much unless it's been cross threaded or overtightened.
I see you're in Florida, did the vehicle come with factory wheels for the package? I know a lot of those gulf distributors port install a bunch of garbage on vehicles before they even hit the dealerships. Perhaps they swapped wheels already before you even bought the vehicle? Can't imagine those port jobs are done with a lot of care and quality.
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ya thats what the service supervisor said to me and then I proceeded to inundate him with links to people having these problems.... He is supposed to call me Monday and let me know if it will be covered.
grammatik2015
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I am beginning to question long term reliability testimonials from members of this forum.
Wheels fall off: drivers fault
engine fails: poor maintenance, or 'I experienced only minor issues
trans fail: poor maintenance, or 'minor repair'
nothing can ever be poor quality or deign?
BlackWorksInc
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Other than one or two members who incorrectly installed wheel spacers, I haven't heard of a member losing a wheel on the scale of Dodge's Duragos at 70mph...
Haven't seen too many 1GR-FEs giving up the ghost (4th gen units with premature head gasket issues excluded) unlike most every Chrysler engine having some sort of cylinderhead issue.
Same goes with transmissions, though Chrysler has a fairly good reputation for transmission issues.
Not to mention your posts sounds like Chrysler's customer service responses to defects.
The thing I'm curious of right now is if in this case it could have been caused by a port distributor rather than a factory defect. Because we have quite a few 5th gens regularly come through the dealership and we haven't had to replace any wheel studs on many since 2010.
[MENTION=123978]4Surfin[/MENTION] what wheels came on your 4Runner from the dealer?
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1engineer
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Very seldom dude. If you solely take the word of an internet forum then you are foolish. There are many websites that actually have repair statistics and they have been posted here ad nauseam. They show that the 4Runner Is way better than most others. There have been design problems in the past with the 4Runner sure but most problems you read about here have been due to mods or owner error. Case in point: Recently there was a thread blaming KDSS for the vehicle not being level. Turned out to be an an aftermarket shock that was the problem. Another recent one was a starting issue. Turned out the guy dislodged a fuse when doing other work. Point is there are hundreds of threads like this compared to a few that are actually Toyota engineer's fault. They are not perfect but they are much better than the competition. Go to a Jeep or Ford forum and read a bit.
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wfo9
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The wheels don't fall off...
Honestly, they seem extremely reliable for the avg owner, I have owned so many vehicles that I lost count many years ago. Most Mfgs have made huge improvements in quality over the last decade. My first 4runner was a 98 3rd gen. Drove it to 98k without a single real problem. Before that I had a 94 K5 blazer that I drove to about 90k without any issues. All my trucks, Chev + Toyota have been pretty good to me. I have had about 4 Chev trucks, but I usually sell them when they go over 100k mi. I took one to 125k and it did start acting up a bit, but nothing really major. I feel Toyota's are still a decent step above in reliability over 100k, but the difference is not near what it used to be. I actually think my 3rd gen was better quality wise than the 5th gen. The materials just felt better. I think Toyota has lost some of its quality edge with cost cutting techniques in recent years. I'm not like most member here. I like all Mfgs and appreciate many vehicles for what they are. I even like some Jeeps (although that is a stretch even for me) I see both pros and cons with Toyota (and with my t4r), they have problems and design flaws (just like everything else). Lots of room for improvement. But they do seem to have much better than avg overall reliability. All the underpinnings are pretty stout... I'm very pleased with it overall. Only major complaint is lack of power and any ability to fix that. This is my first NA v6 in many years.
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So I've, liked this post, have owned more than my share of cars since i've started driving in years. Some of the switches have been stupid choices, some in recent events have been due to totallying the vehicles(not all my fault, when you merge onto a freeway you go to the speedlimit and merge, not slow down to 40...and you don't stop in the middle of a fast lane in tacoma sitting sideways...).
Anyways, So all vehicles i've owned as long as i've taken care of them from purchasing NEW, i've experienced almost zero problems from the length of owning to selling etc. I've put from 40k miles to 100k miles. Zero problems as long as I did exactly what the manufacturer requested per servicing. My friend bought a used Audi 2001 S4. He rarely changed the oil when he was supposed and drove it like he stole it litterally, there are times we did 140 down I-5 in Portland trying to race a ducati. We lost, but it was fun (when we were younger...). He went between 20k on oil changes and put 100k miles onto it with no problems till his friend borrowed it and redlined it, not shifting and ended up throwing a rod.
So I really feel that it comes to how you take care of a car. I bought my 2014 TEP from the Dealership. I had one wheel stud broken at less than 1k miles when I went to put new tires onto it finding out they wouldn't let me drive away with tires that rub /me anger fist shake. So i now tell everyone like I was told that "YOU need to use NON-AIR tools, etc". You break it, you fix it. So back to the point(Sorry I got sidetracked), it honestly comes down to how you treat the vehicle you drive. Do you offroad it and then neglect it, or crawl under it kicking/checking everything. I personally believe that if you follow the recommended manufacturer recommendations, check it after you go through some 'offroading' and do the best you can for taking care of what you 'bought' you will have it for as long as you 'want/need' it. I have done my 5k service every 5k if not closer, and after Toyota does it,i crawl under it also checking bolts, leaks, etc and everything matches what they give me. They are ALWAY's surprised that my vehicle is not 'in excellent' condition due to how it looks when ever I bring it in...
/me I may have had a frew drinks before this post, by no fault to my own..
Jeremy556
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Yep, different part numbers, no idea why. I originally bought ARP studs, but they were too long, so I bought 12 OEM rear wheel studs and installed them in front.
