Favorite lubricant - --- (for brake parts)

[Jivewalker]

Well its finally time to change my stock pads out all the way around. They have 100,000 miles on the them and have performed impressively! I'm going back with OEM pads and decided to replace rotors (OEM) as well. Have parts and plan on doing it this weekend and may do a write up if I can.

My questions are:

Which lubricant are you using for the slide pins instead of the toyota brand Lithium soap based glycol grease? Anyone use Sil-Glyde for the pins?

Which lubricant are you using for the shims?

TIA

 

[RyanEJ25]

Well its finally time to change my stock pads out all the way around. They have 100,000 miles on the them and have performed impressively! I'm going back with OEM pads and decided to replace rotors (OEM) as well. Have parts and plan on doing it this weekend and may do a write up if I can.

My questions are:

Which lubricant are you using for the slide pins instead of the toyota brand Lithium soap based glycol grease? Anyone use Sil-Glyde for the pins?

Which lubricant are you using for the shims?

TIA

Which ever you go with make sure its for the cars pleasure. She will thank you later for it. :thumb3:

 

[niko9317]

You 4runner should have 4 piston calipers. Slide pins require no lube. Make sure they are clean and rust free. Apply a small amount of rustez or high temp brake grease to the back of the pad between the shims.

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[niko9317]

Using lube to these pins will attract dirt and can cause failure. They are not sealed.

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[Jivewalker]

**EDIT - ORIGINAL SCHEMATIC WAS INCORRECT - REPLACED WITH CORRECT ONE**

You 4runner should have 4 piston calipers. Slide pins require no lube. Make sure they are clean and rust free. Apply a small amount of rustez or high temp brake grease to the back of the pad between the shims.

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Using lube to these pins will attract dirt and can cause failure. They are not sealed.

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Caliper sliding pins require lubricant. See attached. My question is what Silicon lube everyone is using and happy with for these. Don't want to buy the Lithium soap base glycol grease from Toyota. From looking into it further last night, it seems silicon paste or Sil-Glyde lubricant will work after cleaning the pins.

 

[cryption1]

I wouldn't say favorite - but I've always used these little .99 cent packs at the register of my local auto parts store

Always been 'good nuff'

Disclaimer: I've always used it on Volkswagens - I've owned a 5th gen T4r for all of 2k miles so I haven't touched the brakes yet

 

[1000MPH]

I'd like to see a brake job write-up. I've done simple pad replacements but would be nice to see it done correctly. I bought some of the expensive 3M silicone paste awhile back on a good Amazon deal. Seems a popular choice on Toyota forums.

 

[Jivewalker]

I'd like to see a brake job write-up. I've done simple pad replacements but would be nice to see it done correctly. I bought some of the expensive 3M silicone paste awhile back on a good Amazon deal. Seems a popular choice on Toyota forums.

Thanks.

I plan on tearing into this Saturday morning. I'll take some photos and work on a write up of how it goes.

 

[Colorado S14]

I have used a very light coating of anti seize or synthetic moly grease in this application on other vehicles with success in the past. The moly grease is the better choice.

 

[Jivewalker]

I have used a very light coating of anti seize or synthetic moly grease in this application on other vehicles with success in the past. The moly grease is the better choice.

Thanks. Based on what I read over the past week, It's best to use non-petroleum based lubricants on the slide pins and anything in contact with rubber or plastic. Synthetic moly might meet that requirement, don't really know. Evidently, rubber seals will swell and degrade with petroleum lubes.

From what I've read, Hi temp Silicone or Silicone w/PTFE lubes for slide pins and hi-temp brake lube for metal to metal seem to be recommended the most.

As far as product, it will come down to what's on the shelf at the parts store when I go. But at least I know what to look for now.

 

[1000MPH]

I just remembered a pretty good write-up from BITOG.
See if you like it.

A Critic-Style Brake Job | Mechanical /Maintenance Forum | Bob Is The Oil Guy

 

[Stangboy]

I have used Sil-Glyde for all of the brake jobs I've done on my various vehicles. I work at a large chemical plant on the Gulf coast, and it's what we use to lubricate all of the various valves, and valve actuators throughout the plant. Never had a problem with it.

 

[stir_fry_boy]

By far and away this is the best: Honda High Temp Urea Grease.

I've done hundreds of brake jobs, and when I come back to replace them again, this grease is still there doing it's job. Only stuff I use, as well as many Honda master techs. Also used for greasing sunroof tracks, it will never need to be done again.

 

[catrains]

Thanks. Based on what I read over the past week, It's best to use non-petroleum based lubricants on the slide pins and anything in contact with rubber or plastic. Synthetic moly might meet that requirement, don't really know. Evidently, rubber seals will swell and degrade with petroleum lubes.

From what I've read, Hi temp Silicone or Silicone w/PTFE lubes for slide pins and hi-temp brake lube for metal to metal seem to be recommended the most.

As far as product, it will come down to what's on the shelf at the parts store when I go. But at least I know what to look for now.

on my 2016 T4R 800mi I removed the wheels and inspected the brakes/pads/caliper and the slide pins. it appears there is a pink type of lube on the pins for cal slide . I would like to know also what toyota uses.

using petroleum type lubes on my GM vehicles did do some rubber swelling. the silicone grease did not .

if the pin seals swell this will cause rusting of the pins ..

I have used anti seize on the pad backing steel to reduce any noises which can happen . never had any issues . just a paint like coating .. not gobs of it.

 

[Jivewalker]

By far and away this is the best: Honda High Temp Urea Grease.

I've done hundreds of brake jobs, and when I come back to replace them again, this grease is still there doing it's job. Only stuff I use, as well as many Honda master techs. Also used for greasing sunroof tracks, it will never need to be done again.

Interesting stuff. I'll see if I can find some. I bet it smells great!

on my 2016 T4R 800mi I removed the wheels and inspected the brakes/pads/caliper and the slide pins. it appears there is a pink type of lube on the pins for cal slide . I would like to know also what toyota uses.

using petroleum type lubes on my GM vehicles did do some rubber swelling. the silicone grease did not .

if the pin seals swell this will cause rusting of the pins ..

I have used anti seize on the pad backing steel to reduce any noises which can happen . never had any issues . just a paint like coating .. not gobs of it.

Toyota uses Lithium soap based glycol grease, which evidently is pink or red. I plan on using Sil-Glyds or Silicone paste or possibly the urea stuff above on the pins. I'll use some high temp brake grease on the pad shims and a thin coat on the metal piston face.

My latest concern is run out on the new rotors. I ordered factory rotors from Camelback (best price and free shipping with my TW discount) and was reading somewhere that even new factory rotors should be checked for excessive run out prior to install. I have no dial indicators or know even what to look for, so I'm going to take the chance and assume they are in spec off the shelf. We will see. My runner has no vibrations or pulsations, so assuming I do everything right and the rotors are true, I should be good. The more I read, the more i learn that should be done during a brake job, but I really doubt the dealer does all this. the video posted above was great, and i will follow that cleaning advice. Should be really easy to do this, but I'm pretty hardcore on craftsmanship and using correct products, so we will see. I'll do a write up since there isn't a recent one on here.

 

[cryption1]

I've done lots of brake jobs over the years - and I've used all different rotors. From Hawk, to OEM, to the cheap Autozone rotors; I've always thrown them on the car from the box and never had an issue.

Ben

 

[Morphyne]

Caliper sliding pins require lubricant. See attached. My question is what Silicon lube everyone is using and happy with for these. Don't want to buy the Lithium soap base glycol grease from Toyota. From looking into it further last night, it seems silicon paste or Sil-Glyde lubricant will work after cleaning the pins.

Am I the only one who noticed that this is an exploded view of the rear calipers?

 

[Jivewalker]

Am I the only one who noticed that this is an exploded view of the rear calipers?

HAha, you are correct! I pulled that off the internet somewhere. Here is the correct front from the RM.

 

[stir_fry_boy]

Interesting stuff. I'll see if I can find some. I bet it smells great!

Gear oil is much worse. It's not bad. A little big goes a long way. Usually that little canister of grease lasts me several years.

Something interesting is that this Honda high-temp urea grease was developed by NASA for their rocket bearings, used in extremely high temp situations.

 

[Morphyne]

HAha, you are correct! I pulled that off the internet somewhere. Here is the correct front from the RM.

But what is odd is that it is labeled front brake caliper.

My wife's GX's calipers are looking pretty horrible. i would like to take a crack at rebuilding them.