Got the TRDs off road

No, not so far.

MattH72 -- sorry, there's a ton of threads on rim size and what will/won't fit on the 5th gen's so I think everyone (including me) figured you'd found the answer in another thread...

Brakes on all the 5th Gen models are the same. 17" is the minimum rim size that will clear the calipers. Don't waste any time lusting after a 16" set of FJ TRD wheels (like I did), they won't fit. Anything bigger than a 17" rim is purely a cosmetic choice (and, yes, uprading to these 17" TRD wheels is purely cosmetic as well).

Someone already mounted these TRD wheels on a Limited and posted pics in the photo albums section:

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/members/b1mccool-albums-5th+gen+lifted.html

Hope that helps.
 
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4 New TRD Wheels... Again!

Second off- What a bunch of idiots. Something as simple as a wheel swap and they managed to screw up three of the four wheels? As expensive as they are, you should not accept any damages IMO. I would make them replace all three and they can repair yours and sell them to someone else at a discount. Morons!

The new (replacement) wheels showed up on Friday and got them swapped out with my damaged rims this morning. Well, I should say I watched the tech mount the tires to the new rims, I mounted the bead lock rings, he balanced the wheels, then I mounted to the truck and installed the lugs... took a little longer than planned but well worth the time to have a "flawless" set of wheels this go round.

The tech showed me what balancing attachment the other guy would have used to damage the one original wheel -- using the proper attachment doesn't marr the outside of the rim at all. Also, when he went to remove the wheels from the truck initially with an air ratchet and 13/16" impact socket, we figured out what caused the lug hold damage... the diamater of the impact socket was just a little too big to fit into the lug hole, but not enough that you couldn't tighten the lug with the spline drive/lock socket. They'd also used a "normal" depth socket which is what actually impacted the metal of the rim.

Solution (that I already planned for and brought with me to the shop this morning), use a standard (not impact type) 1/2" deep socket that extends all the way down into the lug hole when placed over the spline drive/lock socket (my Craftsman one worked great). And, put a piece of 2" painters tape on the part of the lug hole that was damaged just in case the deep socket rubs the rim when torquing the lugs. 2 minutes of putting tape on 48 lug holes was worth it in my book.

Anyway, the take-away here is that if you buy these wheels, make sure you trust the shop that installs them so you can save yourself the grief. I'd also highly recommend telling them that you'll watch the whole process and install the lugs yourself. Way better than having the kid that is practicing to join a NASCAR pit crew race his buddy to see who can get the lugs installed on your new wheels fastest and jack up your wheels in the process.
 
Just need a shop that is used to dealing with custom wheels, and is willing to buy the proper tools for them.

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These are available from multiple companies and have a protective plastic coating to avoid the lug hole damage. As far as the balancing marks, well that was just a stupid move.
 
The new (replacement) wheels showed up on Friday and got them swapped out with my damaged rims this morning. Well, I should say I watched the tech mount the tires to the new rims, I mounted the bead lock rings, he balanced the wheels, then I mounted to the truck and installed the lugs... took a little longer than planned but well worth the time to have a "flawless" set of wheels this go round.

The tech showed me what balancing attachment the other guy would have used to damage the one original wheel -- using the proper attachment doesn't marr the outside of the rim at all. Also, when he went to remove the wheels from the truck initially with an air ratchet and 13/16" impact socket, we figured out what caused the lug hold damage... the diamater of the impact socket was just a little too big to fit into the lug hole, but not enough that you couldn't tighten the lug with the spline drive/lock socket. They'd also used a "normal" depth socket which is what actually impacted the metal of the rim.

Solution (that I already planned for and brought with me to the shop this morning), use a standard (not impact type) 1/2" deep socket that extends all the way down into the lug hole when placed over the spline drive/lock socket (my Craftsman one worked great). And, put a piece of 2" painters tape on the part of the lug hole that was damaged just in case the deep socket rubs the rim when torquing the lugs. 2 minutes of putting tape on 48 lug holes was worth it in my book.

Anyway, the take-away here is that if you buy these wheels, make sure you trust the shop that installs them so you can save yourself the grief. I'd also highly recommend telling them that you'll watch the whole process and install the lugs yourself. Way better than having the kid that is practicing to join a NASCAR pit crew race his buddy to see who can get the lugs installed on your new wheels fastest and jack up your wheels in the process.

I guess I got lucky. Mine have been on and off 4 times now and don't have a single scratch. I did them twice and DT did the original mount and a rotate already. What I don't get about the mounting is the supplied sockets are like 4" long, and when you put them on the lugs they stick out of the wheels 2" or more. So no other tools should be even approaching the grey paint on the wheels or trying to go down the lug holes.

Nonetheless, while I don't want any careless marks on the grey paint, I am fine with mine getting marked up. I already scuffed one of the outer steel rings and could care less. My Trail goes off road and that is part of the deal.

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What I don't get about the mounting is the supplied sockets are like 4" long, and when you put them on the lugs they stick out of the wheels 2" or more. So no other tools should be even approaching the grey paint on the wheels or trying to go down the lug holes.

Nonetheless, while I don't want any careless marks on the grey paint, I am fine with mine getting marked up. I already scuffed one of the outer steel rings and could care less. My Trail goes off road and that is part of the deal.

Ok, this is a little wierd. My spline socket (and lock socket) is 3.5" long and doesn't stick out of the wheel nearly that much when it's on the lugs. In fact, I think my lugs are much deeper in the wheels than yours appear to be in the picture.

The depth of the lug head from the outer edge of the lug hole (outside edge of rim) is ~2 3/8". The minimum depth is ~1 1/8" (from the lug head to the lug BCD circle -- i.e. the concave "U" shaped part of the rim).

With the spline socket on the lug, you can see the tool marks on the 13/16" hex head from where the original tech used the air ratchet to install the lugs -- the tool marks corresponed exactly to where the rim was damaged.

I'm going to remove one of the lugs tonight and get a measurement of the actual lug hole depth as well as the length of the spline lug. Either my rims (and now 2 sets that I've gotten from TRD) have deeper lug holes than yours or my TRD lug kit had shorter splined lug nuts (though the McGard website only shows one length of M12 splined lugs that I can find and they're the ones that TRD OEMs the lug kit from).

See the attached pictures below.
 

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Ok, this is a little wierd. My spline socket (and lock socket) is 3.5" long and doesn't stick out of the wheel nearly that much when it's on the lugs.

Looks like the bean counters got to TRD too! Guess I got lucky with an early set. Mine are 5".

I did not take the same measurements you posted, but estimate my lugs are 1.25 - 1.5" long (meaning that is how far they stick out after tightened). If yours are recessed way in there perhaps they are not as long.

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Looks like the bean counters got to TRD too! Guess I got lucky with an early set. Mine are 5".

Actually, you got the right kit with the long lugs and 5" tools... I called the guys at ToyotaTRDparts.com and the looked into the lug kit they sent me. I apparently got an early kit that had shorter lug nuts and tools (it did have the correct P/N on the package though). They sent me the correct, "extra long" kit for free --arrived yesterday and has the 5" tools and long lugs. Didn't measure them, but the lugs are definitely longer than the ones that are on the truck right now. Problem solved! Thanks for all the info and sorry for sorta hijacking the thread with damaged wheels rants!

Now I just need a set of Duratrac's installed so my rig looks as bad a$$ as yours!!!
 
Actually, you got the right kit with the long lugs and 5" tools... I called the guys at ToyotaTRDparts.com and the looked into the lug kit they sent me. I apparently got an early kit that had shorter lug nuts and tools (it did have the correct P/N on the package though). They sent me the correct, "extra long" kit for free --arrived yesterday and has the 5" tools and long lugs. Didn't measure them, but the lugs are definitely longer than the ones that are on the truck right now. Problem solved! Thanks for all the info and sorry for sorta hijacking the thread with damaged wheels rants!

Now I just need a set of Duratrac's installed so my rig looks as bad a$$ as yours!!!

Glad it worked out and you got the correct parts. The DTs do look sweet over these killa rims :guitar3:
 
Glad it worked out and you got the correct parts. The DTs do look sweet over these killa rims

Yep, decided I had to scratch the itch and join the DT club yesterday! Got 'em mounted this morning.... now she just needs a lift for Christmas!
 

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