How much in repairs in too much? - Opinions Needed

Agreed with AUseeker.

Pop the hood, open the power steering reservoir. Have someone else hop in the truck and turn the steering to almost full lock back and forth while you're looking at the reservoir. If you see bubbles coming up, the power steering system just wasn't bled completely. Bleeding it is simple, you just keep on turning the wheel back and forth almost lock to lock, until no more bubbles.
EDIT: do this while truck is running, wheels on the ground, not jacked up.

If you don't see any leaking fluid, and its not hard to turn or whining anymore, its probably fine. In my experience, power steering systems aren't that complicated. If somethings up with them, you can feel it in the steering wheel, or you can hear it. Or you have power steering fluid dripping onto the ground.


As an encouragement, I think you did the right thing with the repairs. It always sucks having big bills hit you when you don't expect them, but its still way cheaper than selling for a fraction of what the vehicle is worth, and buying new. What you just spent on repairs is going to keep your car going for a good while to come. Comparatively, it would have made about 7 or 8 car payments on a new car. I always like to think of big bills like that in terms of new car payments. Over time, the repair almost always ends up being cheaper than having those car payments every single month.


Also, as an aside, if you're interested in working on your car and saving some money in the future, start looking at some youtube videos of these repairs. Some of the things you paid for CAN be done simply, saving hundreds of dollars. For example, tensioner and pulleys is 150ish in parts, and a couple of hours of your own labor, using common tools. That's not helpful when you have a deadline, and are stuck and need the car fixed asap. But doing the labor yourself CAN save you money. I find i spend way less money on my vehicle planning ahead and doing proactive preventative maintenance and repairs myself. That often means replacing parts simply because of their age, so that I have the freedom to plan doing the repair myself, saving money on labor, and avoiding an unplanned breakdown. Just some thoughts.
 
[MENTION=149207]AuSeeker[/MENTION] [MENTION=216727]f250ben[/MENTION] Thanks for the input! I had a thought it was an air bubble, I just wasn't sure since I filled it up, took a quick drive, then had to fill it up again as it was empty after the short drive. Since then though the fluid level has been the same, and it drove fine this morning. I called the mechanic to let him know, and he said the same thing you guys said. Either way I'll probably bring it back in just to have him look it over since I already paid him, and he offers 12,000 mile/12 month warranty on all his work.

Also, thanks about the suggestion on doing work myself. I definitely am handy and am willing to learn to do more stuff on my own, it was just at this point with my exp and my time crunch, I just found it a better peace of mind to pay the guy to do it. Now everything that I was planning on fixing/maintenance is all done, and I can continue to learn as I do proactive maintenance. Anything you recommend to do semi-regularly like whenever I do the oil change, tire rotation, etc..?

I definitely looked at it as reinvesting in the truck, and now I'll feel more comfortable putting more money in it if need be/or pure want, to enjoy the truck the longer I have it
 
Getting Frustrated:

So I thought my issues were resolved once I had finished the bleeding.... but no on my 350 mile roadtrip back home, the power steering whine is back and the fluid keeps dropping and I had to keep topping it off :ybrick:

I just dropped it off at the shop again to hopefully get this issue resolved, as I'm perplexed what the issue is since I couldn't spot a leak. So now it's a matter of a bad part that was installed, or some bad work done by the shop....

Also, the past 2-3 times it started up, the exhaust was blowing alot of white smoke.... not sure if this related or not to my current issues or the work done by the shop, but it sure is another thing to worry about :cry2:
 
UPDATE: Shop called, said the PS pump was bad and they are replacing it with a new one. The front seal was dumping the fluid onto the exhaust, hence the white smoke...phew, I was sweating that that was gonna be a separate issue. Only bad part is I'm left car-less again until tomorrow morning
 
Sorry to hear dude. I totally understand. I've put about 4-5K in upgrades and preventative maintenance into my 4runner in the past 3 months. Picked it up from the alignment shop from doing my post-suspension replacement alignment, and on the way home, my drivers side AC vents went warm. I officially have an AC leak that where Freon only lasts about 8 weeks now. This happened twice earlier this summer, I was hoping it was a small leak that had closed up from some of that leak preventer freon. That's not the case.

Sometimes it doesn't rain, it pours. That said, don't forget all the value you've already gotten from the things that HAVE been fixed. Push through, and you'll have a reliable vehicle at the end!
 
I always found bundling repairs and maintaince together makes sense. Just had my water pump, fan clutch, thermostat, and the belt with tensioner and all bearings replaced. Came to just over $600 in labour with the shop giving me a good rate for bundling. Preventive maintance is always the best approach.
 
Sometimes it doesn't rain, it pours. That said, don't forget all the value you've already gotten from the things that HAVE been fixed. Push through, and you'll have a reliable vehicle at the end!

Ahh, I didn't mean for it to come off like I was b****ing, but reading my post it does seem that way. Thanks for the insight, I know these things happen and that's just the way it is, I was just mad it wasn't right the first time, as it ate into my trip time. Sorry about the freon leak... had to deal with that the past two summers on my old car (part of the reason I got the 4runner actually), and finding those leaks aren't easy on your own. Hopefully you get it straightened out without too high a cost!

I've had several folks recommend "The Toy Shop" in Marietta as a great Toyota mechanic.

https://goo.gl/maps/PZkVvZiC2aK2

Might be worth getting a second opinion.

I'm a little past 2nd opinions at this point for this repair (now if somethings wrong AGAIN, I may look into it), but I appreciate the shop recommendation, it's always nice finding new quality places to go to.

I always found bundling repairs and maintaince together makes sense. Just had my water pump, fan clutch, thermostat, and the belt with tensioner and all bearings replaced. Came to just over $600 in labour with the shop giving me a good rate for bundling. Preventive maintance is always the best approach.

Oh I can totally agree with that! It just comes down to how much you can afford to get done all at once... Any work I do myself, I try to do as much as possible at once as it saves me MY time :biggrin1:
 
UPDATE: Getting a 2nd Opinion

So from where I left off, I picked up my truck after they put in the 2nd new PS Pump...drove it for 30 mins if that, and it's leaking fluid and theirs the whine again, turn right back around and take it back... they have it for another 2 hours and determine that the O-ring seal on the reservoir (the one part not replaced) cap was bad and put a new one in the cap.

This seemed to solve the issue and I drove it around for awhile with no issues... I hit the road to make another 400mile trip, and 200 mile's in I pull off and notice I've lost all my PS fluid... again...

So I'm up in KY (my second home for school) and have a more trusted mechanic that I dropped it off too today to inspect this first shops work, as they have "fixed" it 3 times now and still no success.
 
So from where I left off, I picked up my truck after they put in the 2nd new PS Pump...drove it for 30 mins if that, and it's leaking fluid and theirs the whine again, turn right back around and take it back... they have it for another 2 hours and determine that the O-ring seal on the reservoir (the one part not replaced) cap was bad and put a new one in the cap.

This seemed to solve the issue and I drove it around for awhile with no issues... I hit the road to make another 400mile trip, and 200 mile's in I pull off and notice I've lost all my PS fluid... again...

So I'm up in KY (my second home for school) and have a more trusted mechanic that I dropped it off too today to inspect this first shops work, as they have "fixed" it 3 times now and still no success.

Man you are going through a bit. Thankfully you have your 'hometown' mechanic and can find something easy to fix. I read through your post, I think you still did the right thing.

I had to make a decision and it was easy to pay the $4K bill on my 2004 4Runner, head gaskets, 4WD and front calipers. Can't complain, this beast has life in it! I could have done the calipers myself, but sometimes you have to weigh time vs. money.

Good luck.
 
Man you are going through a bit. Thankfully you have your 'hometown' mechanic and can find something easy to fix. I read through your post, I think you still did the right thing.

I had to make a decision and it was easy to pay the $4K bill on my 2004 4Runner, head gaskets, 4WD and front calipers. Can't complain, this beast has life in it! I could have done the calipers myself, but sometimes you have to weigh time vs. money.

Good luck.

Man the calipers is a *****. Luckily I was able to take out an extended warranty on the '07 when I first got it. Cost me a pretty penny but it saved my ass with the latest repairs where I needed to replace calipers and few other things. Warranty took care of everything. 4Runners will last a LONG time time with regular maintenance.
 
UPDATE: anyone ever heard of parts stamped "Toyoda"? KyShop said the rack that the GAShop put in was stamped "Toyoda" and the part number didn't match my 4runner, but came up for a Lexus.... so they're still looking at it and doing more research, but could this have been my issue? What should I do as have the GAShop (first shop) installed the wrong rack (As I paid for Toyota OEM parts), and turned me away 3 separate times saying "its fixed"
 
UPDATE: anyone ever heard of parts stamped "Toyoda"? KyShop said the rack that the GAShop put in was stamped "Toyoda" and the part number didn't match my 4runner, but came up for a Lexus.... so they're still looking at it and doing more research, but could this have been my issue? What should I do as have the GAShop (first shop) installed the wrong rack (As I paid for Toyota OEM parts), and turned me away 3 separate times saying "its fixed"

Toyoda is the family name of the head of Toyota, founded by Kiichiro Toyoda in 1937 and current in charge is Akio Toyoda, they also have many different companies making all kinds of machinery, I'm not sure but they probably make many if not all of the parts for Toyota and Lexus.

That being said many parts from the Lexus GX series fit the 4th Gen 4Runners, so it very possible you have the correct part, but only the part number will tell if it indeed fits your T4R or not.

Post your part number please.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota

https://www.google.com/search?q=Toyoda&oq=Toyoda&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
 
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UPDATE: the Trusted KYshop said they pulled a BIG air pocket out of the system and it’s drivable.... but the GAshop put in a rack that’s part number matches for a Lexus LX470 not one that’s directly for my 4Runner (based off of My VIN). I’ll do my own research if this matches but I wanted to update this thread. I also feel it’s not right if I paid for OEM parts and they put this in, even if it’s a match that fits. If I was trying to do the job cheap and the lexis rack works, that’s fine. But since I paid for a 4Runner OEM part I feel they need to put that in, not a rack that is similar.

So now, I’m debating my next move... any suggestions?

Open to anyone’s input, but for the guys that have followed it: [MENTION=149207]AuSeeker[/MENTION] [MENTION=76562]Anonymous4Runner[/MENTION] I “@“ you for the notfication
 
The GX470 is a "clone" or "sister" vehicle to the 4th Gens T4Rs or vice versa, meaning that mechanically they are both much the same and most all mechanical parts if not all can be used on the other model abeit the part numbers maybe different, the LX470 is a clone/sister to the Toyota Land Cruiser but are very similar to the 4th Gens 4Rs, so some parts may work and be interchangeable and I doubt that the parts for a LX470 are cheaper than it would for a T4R and could actually cost more since Lexus is consider a luxury line.

That being said I think you should find out where the Ga garage sourced the rack, if they ordered it from a Toyota dealer I would think they were told it would work, when using parts from a similar vehicle if the bolt pattern are the same and all other connection are the same the part should work fine, doing a cross reference on the part number should tell if the parts are interchangable.
 
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Hey guys,

I hope im not hijacking the initial post but im in a similar predicament and dint want to start a new thread. IN fact its my similar post :)

Long story..short..Ive been dreaming and admiring from distance the 4th gen 4R and finally made the leap:)..I got an 03 SR5 Sport V8 for 2850$ Cad (around 2100-2200 USD) with 252.000 km (~160.000 miles). Shes in fairly rough shape..its obvious shes been beaten up and not much love shown for a long time: very dirty interior (grease on the carperts and seats), a CB radio..showing its been used in the woods, paint is so so, scratches all over.

The pro's:
- Timing belt and radiator have been changed (with water pump) - seller provided invoice

- frame, rock panels, overall body is in decent condition, Im saying decent because there are chips of rust in various places

- engine, transmission, 4X4, most of the front suspension seems all in good condition, electronics are also ok, with the except of tailgate and lombar support on driver seat


Now the bads (order of urgency):
- AC compressor, already fixed, bought a cheap one from Rockauto, with labour and everything came down to about 500CAD (abt 400 USD)
- Tail gate needs replacement, its full of rust and nothing works; found one not too far from my place in MA for about 500 USD, complete assembly
- Steering rack issues? , investigation still in progress but at over 60mph I have a serious play in the steering wheel (continuous left right movement of the wheel and it feels really unstable. My mechanic, with little to no experience on 4R couldnd figure it out but he told me ball joins and tie rods are ok, im planning to see an experienced 4R mechanic in the area; if its the rack, probably looking for a around $300 reman unit plus another 200-300 in labour i'd assume
- rear brakes - rotors and pads, will do it myself, parts have been around 100USD, most probably calipers are seized, but ill try to service myself, without fully replace them
- rust under the driver seat floor, need to be done I think before the winter, been quoted 400-500$
- Spare tire carrier completely missing, need one if I want to get back the trunk space:) about 100 USD
- Radiator support - rust is pretty advanced, not sure exactly about the cost or the urgency,
- manifolds, one is pretty much done, with one of the bolts broken in the engine, the noise is not that bad and once the engine warms up you cant hear it anymore, it may be a next year repair but with a pair of pacesetter and labour looking probably at about 1200 CAD (1000)
- ABS sensor(s), ABS is off, with also the VTRAC, seems at least is one of the ABS sensors needs to be replaced, looking for around 200$ the sensor alone, plus labour;


I see two options: looking to invest another $3000 or so CAD ( 2300$ USD )in it and make it not a head turner but a safe and fun car that it would last me a while (I hope) or just stick only with very urgent repairs (tailgate, rust repair and steering), and use it until it dies and I can save more money and buy something that's been taken better taken care off.


its important to mention this is not my daily driver, ill probably do 5 to 7k miles a year, mostly towing my boat and fishing or camping trips. Im coming from a 2002 Pathfinder that's it now for sale..


What would you advise? ill post some pictures tomorrow.
 
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