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Another review of the H2 (for those interested):

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More pics!

Look at that spare tire (reminds you of Jeep Cherokee)!
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An example of welded boxed upper control arms and SOLID lower control arms (excellent combo!):
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Rear anti-roll bar seems a bit low for an off-roader!
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Rear trailing arm seems to be stamped steel (aka. upside down U-shape...a piece of steel bent at two corners to form a 3-sided box, not a full box...not as strong as solid or tubular bar seen in other SUVs, especially on rear axle)
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Transfer case and skidplate: (attached to only ONE end??!!)
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Hey all,

FourWheeler is testing the Hummer H2 in it's SUV of the Year competition. Here is a pic of it:
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Truck Trend Review

Truck Trend Review

2003 Hummer H2
Little brother is no slouch
By David Newhardt

The breeding is unmistakable, identifiable at any distance. The new H2 is a Hummer for the non-military world. Equally at home at the opera or Baja, it gives up little to the original Hummer in off-road ability, but gains enormously in comfort, ease of operation, and build quality. The partnership between AM General and General Motors has created one of the most capable 4x4 vehicles on the planet.

Behind the wheel of the H2 in Moab, Utah, we drove on a diverse mixture of surfaces, from paved to cratered. At 75 mph on the Interstate, the interior remained a plush cocoon, bereft of any significant wind or tire noise. We expected the aggressively 34-in. treaded tires to unleash a storm of noise, but it never came. The curved upright windshield aided in a panoramic view, but the vast amount of air it pushed out of the way left the exterior mirrors in a quiet lee. Speaking of air, crosswinds were also a non-issue. It takes a lot of wind to disturb a 6400-lb truck that casts a low-slung but gargantuan shadow.

Taking the toughest trails is less daunting in the H2 than in all but a handful of other serious off-road vehicles. Significant effort was expended on dialing in the shock/spring behavior, as the rigid chassis doesn't flex and absorb surface imperfections. Where the H1 was the rolling embodiment of harsh, that term isn't applicable to the H2. Driven in sane fashion, the long-legged suspension envelopes obstacles and flows over them like a rolling cloud.

Pushing the massive 17-in. tires out to the far corners of the platform has many advantages, including opening up the interior, lowering the center of gravity, and creating impressive approach and departure angles. On both the road and the trail, the H2 exudes stability, a feeling of holding the earth firmly with the BFGoodrich tires. The recirculating-ball power steering lets enough road feel through to tell the driver what's happening at the bow, but it doesn't punish when the ground resembles the flank of a volcano.

Slip the transmission into neutral, push the low-range button on the dash, and the H2 will go anywhere common sense directs you. With the 6.0L Vortec 6000 churning out 316 hp and 360 lb-ft of torque, there's plenty of grunt for merging onto a freeway as well as clambering over the Rubicon. With the installation of the drive-by-wire system, Hummer engineers have nailed throttle tip-in on the head. It sounds like a small thing, but it makes a huge impact in any vehicle's ease of driving. On paved roads, in high gear, the engine gathers revs quickly. But in the serious off-road modes, more accelerator-pedal travel is required, giving the driver additional control in marginal traction situations.

Unlike the H1's enormous exterior dimensions and claustrophobic interior, the cabin of the H2 is more suited to non-military occupation. A half third-row seat is foldable and removable, which is a good thing, as the full-size spare devours a considerable amount of storage space. Switchgear, vents, and other interior fittings are GM parts-bin stuff, but the pieces fit together well enough and are straightforward in operation.

While the H1 dwarfs the newest Hummer, the H2's Rubinesque body will never be mistaken for anything but an AM General product. Broad shoulders, flat, square windows, and a bluff silhouette are visual cues buyers want, and the H2 delivers the goods. While this Hummer model can only gaze wistfully at compact parking spaces, at least it doesn't fill the entire south forty.

Verdict? Hummer's H2 is a departure from the original H1 in that it's comfortable, quiet, and will fit in most garages. Similarities to the big guy include mountain-goat-like tenacity and imposing looks. This truck strikes a near perfect balance between a take-no-prisoners attitude and comfortable livability.

The Plant
A mere 25 yards from the AM General plant that makes the military HUMVEE (now called the H1), another "General" has also built a plant in Mishawaka, Indiana, and will be making the H2.

In a short (actually, unprecedented) 23 months from its debut at the Detroit Auto Show in 2000 to the first vehicle off the assembly line (driven by none other than Arnold Schwarzenegger), General Motors will have a new full-size SUV in its lineup. Slated to produce about 30,000 units a year, yet able to ramp up to 43,000 units if needed, the new plant, like the last six plants built by GM, employs Global Manufacturing Systems, meaning the plant's build systems are designed around the assembly-line operator. Logically broken into three parts, the 630,000-sq-ft plant assembles the body of the H2 in the first third, paints all parts and pieces in the middle third, then brings together the powertrain, suspension, and interior in the final third, before it's driven out of the plant for torture testing.

The Future
The question is not what, but when. Long before the first H2 rolled off the assembly line in Mishawaka, Indiana, design and strategy teams were planning the next vehicle to wear the Hummer badge. Although those around the GM campfire are being tight-lipped, our guess is the H2 SUT (July/Aug. '01 Truck Trend cover) will make its debut in late 2004, with a smaller Hummer version (not sure you can call it entry-level), the H3, most likely due in late 2006. Strong candidates for a platform are the ever-popular GMT 360 (Chevy TrailBlazer) or a two-door variant. Going small would allow them to create brand width and bring its capability-first Hummer-authentic personality to a market segment that seems to pop out minivan-like clones several times a year. With traditionally highly focused companies like Land Rover, Jeep, and Porsche searching (floundering?) for products to broaden their reach, while at the same time walking away from what made them great in the past, it will be interesting to see if General Motors can keep Hummer vehicles true to its mission statements.
 
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Peterson's 4Wheel & Off-road Preview of H2

The New Hummer H2
Everything the Hummer Is—and Everything the Hummer Isn’t

It’s new, it’s different, and it works. That’s the lowdown we found out on a secret engineering drive with the new Hummer—the H2. Although it’s still in the engineering phases, we lucked out and tagged along with four prototype H2s and all its engineers for real-world testing on the Rubicon. Unlike most manufacturers, who stick to a contrived test track for data acquisition, the Hummer crew wanted to know how the new rig would perform on a real trail, what to change to make the new H2 even better, and what we thought of it. We can’t tell you everything we learned, as the design and engineering is still ongoing, but here are the basics of what you have to look forward to. But first, some important background info.
When someone says “Hummer,” images of a big, wide, strong 4x4 with a steep price tag come to mind. And for some, a lack of acceleration and a disdaining diesel clatter are envisioned. But that’s the old Hummer, now known as the H1. The new H2 promises much more, while still building on the basics of its older sibling.

Anyone who doesn’t know what an original Hummer is like is probably brain dead or living under a rock. The Hummer first burst on the scene as the military Humvee, designed and produced by AM General, originally a part of AMC, as in Jeep. Unlike most of the military vehicles it replaced, the Humvee’s full independent suspension gave great ground clearance and tremendous load-carrying ability. Geared hubs, a GM diesel engine, and an automatic tranny were just a few of the features packed into the Humvee. When the civilian model was introduced, creature comforts and safety items bloomed, mainly due to federal safety rules, but the public snapped the Hummers up.

The problems associated with civilian Hummers are well known. Although it’s big, beefy, and wide, its diesel engine makes noise that most Americans aren’t willing to accept. And although the new turbocharged versions are much quicker, the raw acceleration is simply not there. Barely able to seat four, the interior seating arrangement around the engine and transmission tunnel is slightly intrusive. Finally, the high price tag on the original Hummer is out of reach for most of the buying public.

These are some of the issues the new Hummer crew addressed in designing the H2. In fact, in a unique arrangement, General Motors and AM General designed the H2, which will be built in the AM General plant in Mishawaka, Indiana. Contrary to popular belief, GM didn’t buy AMG. The deal was a great way to get the best of both companies to design and produce the H2. What has evolved from the fertile minds of these guys is a new Hummer worth taking a look at.


Our first impression was that it was smaller than the H1 (isn’t everything?) but it is about the same size as a Chevy Tahoe. Actually, it is 8 inches shorter than the Tahoe, but has a longer wheelbase and is a few inches taller. The resulting package resembles a Hummer, but is more refined and usable.
The drivetrain is oh-so-GM nice, with the 6.0L V-8 and the stout 4L65E automatic. The transfer case is a first, though—a Borg-Warner full timer with a 2.64 low range. The IFS front holds a beefy 9
 
Hummer H2 SUT Announced for 2004

Detroit - General Motors announced to its HUMMER dealers at the National Automotive Dealers Association conference that it will add a second bodystyle to the HUMMER H2 lineup, the sport utility truck (SUT) in 2004.

The SUT will in every way be a HUMMER. Like its brother the H2 SUV, the SUT will draw from its military heritage as the next evolution of the HUMMER brand. Derived from the H2 SUV, the SUT will be functional, versatile and almost endlessly reconfigurable, to exceed even the most demanding consumer's standards.

"We first introduced the H2 SUT as a concept vehicle in Times Square with Arnold Schwarzenegger and Mayor Rudy Giuliani during the 2001 New York Auto Show," said Mike DiGiovanni, HUMMER general manager. "Exceptional off-road capability and versatility in the SUT allows HUMMER owners the ultimate opportunity for adventure."

The SUT will blend the superior off-road capability HUMMER is known for and a versatile rear cargo bed with an adjustable bulkhead and no-nonsense interior. A distinctive feature will be its folding bulkhead at the rear of the passenger compartment that allows customers to have the flexibility to reconfigure this area for carrying people or cargo.

The H2 SUT will be built at AM General in Mishawaka, Indiana by the United Auto Workers Local 5, the oldest UAW local union in the country. The H2 SUT is expected to go on sale in the second quarter of 2004.

General Motors and AM General reached an agreement in December 1999, in which GM acquired exclusive ownership of the HUMMER brand name worldwide. To find out more about HUMMER, visit the web site at www.HUMMER.com.
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Forbes Review of H2

HIGHS:
Extraordinarily capable off-road; surprisingly civilized on-road.

LOWS:
Doesn't come with turret-mounted pie thrower to fend off its critics.

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Should You Buy This Car?

It's hard not to admire what GM's done with the H2. The styling is dynamite (as well as over the top, of course) and true to what the H1 Hummer stands for. The straight sides aren't just about looks, by the way. They enable off-roaders to know to the millimeter precisely where the vehicle ends so that branches and boulders don't wind up dinging the sides of the H2.

To be sure, the boxy looks aren't for everyone and most buyers will fail to take advantage of its tremendous off-road prowess. All the more reason, we say, to give the H2 a proper diesel engine that would be far more fuel-efficient and apt for such a heavy vehicle.

As it is, a few of the larger flaws with the H2 are, as we've said already, that massive spare tire eating into the cargo area, and the cargo area itself, which, even with the rear seats folded, isn't much better than you'll find from many midsize SUVs. Considering how large the H2 is on the outside, you're paying a lot more than you have to if you're looking for a practical people and things mover. We'd also really appreciate an overdrive lockout to enable quicker downshifts for passing and also to enable engine braking when driving on slick roads.

What else? Oh, we'd like a roof-mounted turret, bullet-proof glass and for the H2 to run on tap water so that the controversy over this vehicle could be shifted to where it belongs--all those SUVs that can't go off-road and therefore should be made on a car, not truck, chassis.

Don't worry though, we'll get there. In about ten years SUVs like the Hummer will actually be relatively rare and whiners will have to find another bandwagon to climb aboard.
 
Hummer H2 Driving Academy

South Bend, Ind -Owners of the new HUMMER H2 now have the opportunity to go to basic training - the H2 Driving Academy - to learn about their new SUV, its off-road capabilities and how it earned the HUMMER name.

Participants in the three-day H2 Academy are privy to an inside look into the HUMMER legacy. They get a private plant tour of the H2 manufacturing facility, a technical class on the engineering of HUMMER and many hours of driving training on the exclusive AM General Off-Road Test Course open only to military personnel and HUMMER training activities.

Much more than simple transportation, a HUMMER is a powerful off-road machine designed to traverse sand, mud, rocks and water. The H2 meets many of the military specifications of its cousin the HUMVEE, like climbing a 60 percent incline, a 60 percent decline and an unnerving 40 percent side slope. The H2 also is capable of climbing 16-inch ledges, fording 20-inches of water and mastering boulders, logs and ditches.

Students of the Academy receive full-time personalized instruction from AM General off-road trainers. "The staff at the HUMMER Driving Academy focuses on providing thorough instruction for each owner so that they graduate the Academy as safe, responsible off-roaders with a new found respect for the HUMMER in their driveway," said Bill Thompson, founder of the HUMMER Driving Academy.

The AM General Off-Road Test Course is a 320-acre facility that features an "in-field" of controlled obstacles that demonstrate each of the HUMMER's capabilities and 15 miles of off-road trails in the woods, which give the drivers a variety of terrain and off-road scenarios to conquer.

In addition to driving, Academy participants learn skills necessary for safe off-roading such as the proper way to pack a truck, basic off-road first aid, Global Positioning Navigation and how to operate a winch - a power-wound cable on a drum used for vehicle recovery. Throughout the program the Tread Lightly principles for environmentally responsible off-roading are taught and a free membership to Tread Lightly is included with the program fee.

Cost of the H2 Driving Academy is $3,757 and includes lodging and meals for three days, transportation throughout the program, use of an H2 for the scheduled driving activities and driving instructors for personalized off-road instruction.

The H2 Academy is based on the more extensive H1 Driving Academy that AM General began in 1998. The H1 program includes many of the same elements with the addition of more extreme obstacles such as sand dune driving, driving with Night Vision technology and advanced winching.

The only pre-requisite to participate in any of the Academy programs is that students must already own a HUMMER.

"The HUMMER Driving Academies are not meant to be sales tools, but rather a relationship-building opportunity with our owners to teach the safe and responsible use of the awesome capabilities of a HUMMER," said Thompson. "Over the years, we have seen many off-road enthusiasts created from the Academies. People arrive in South Bend thinking they bought an SUV, after a few days they discover the fun of off-roading and what it means to own a HUMMER."
 
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Edmunds Comparo: H2 is last place!

2003 Large Luxury SUV Comparison Test
Fifth Place - 2003 Hummer H2
By Erin Riches

A typical luxury SUV purchase is more likely the result of a whim than a carefully weighed response to a perceived need. Even so, the H2's last-place finish is a reminder that even pleasure crafts need to be well-rounded. And Hummer Jr. certainly isn't that.

The H2 was designed and engineered by General Motors; although it makes use of hardware from the company's existing full-size truck line, numerous modifications were made to give it one-of-a-kind off-road ability and styling in line with that of the H1. Our off-roading trip was all in a day's work for the Hummer, as its 9.9 inches of ground clearance, 42-degree approach and 38-degree departure angles, generous wheel travel and gargantuan LT315/70R17 BF Goodrich tires allowed it to master pretty much any terrain we encountered without getting stuck or taking damage. Its pair of locking differentials (center and rear) was second only to the G500's three.

The Hummer's four-wheel-drive system didn't offer quite the versatility of the LX 470's or G500's, in that putting it in 4WD Low automatically locked the center differential (instead of leaving that to the driver's discretion). And some editors noted that its four-speed automatic didn't offer a super-low first gear (in 4 Lo) — useful on very steep descents — as could be found in the G and the LX 470. But these are minor issues only of concern to hard-core off-road enthusiasts.

The real issue for the average H2 owner who goes off-roading on the weekends (or not) and drives into the city during the week is size. With a width of over 81 inches, the H2 is a wrecking ball of sorts on many off-road trails, and editors found it difficult to avoid taking out the local plantlife. On tightly packed freeways, the driver must be vigilant at all times, because the Hummer just doesn't fit into lanes as well as other SUVs. Also in play are the rough-and-tumble suspension and steering components. Tuned for a life off the pavement, they give the H2 all the manners of a heavy-duty pickup everywhere else — even with our test truck's optional self-leveling air suspension. The ride isn't uncomfortable nor is body roll excessive, but compared with the others, the H2 felt sloppy and disconnected from the road. The steering is similarly vague in feel, and the turning radius is a large 43.5 feet.

To make matters worse, the H2 has huge blind spots — the passenger compartment sits high off the road, the windows are short and a full-size spare takes up half of the cargo bay. It's easy for smaller vehicles and people to escape your glance. A set of supplemental convex mirrors (as on Ford's Excursion) might have helped, but GM left them off.

Beyond that, our test vehicle was too tall to fit in our office parking garage. And even our 6-foot-plus editors had to use the tubular running boards to manage the huge step-in height; one of them hit his head on the roof in the process.

But size was only one problem for the H2. A lack of luxury features, minimal cargo space, subpar interior materials and take-it-or-leave-it engine performance were others. Let's start with features: We identified 12 that we thought were important in a luxury SUV; the H2 had just two and a half of them — low-range gearing, an in-dash CD changer and an optional one-person third-row seat (we could only give it partial credit). Among the missing items that can't be had even as options were side-impact airbags of any kind, stability control, adjustable pedals, rear parking sensors, a rear air conditioner for the four possible rear-seaters and a rear DVD entertainment system.

The cargo space issue is obvious. When a vehicle weighs 6,400 pounds and meets the heavy-duty vehicle classification (and therefore isn't subject to pesky EPA gas mileage estimates), you'd expect it to double as a moving van when needed. However, the H2's cargo bay is occupied by the aforementioned spare tire and third-row seat, and even on large grocery trips, one of these has to come out to get everything in. On the plus side, the 60/40 second-row seats fold easily to create a flat load floor.

Inside, editors noted GM's attempt to give the H2 a bold, masculine ensemble but wrote that the final product seemed like a rush job with various elements thrown in at the last minute. Low-quality materials certainly didn't help — there was hard plastic in abundance, along with weak leather and vinyl trim and unconvincing faux metal where there should have been real stainless steel. "Nothing seemed worthy of such an expensive vehicle," one editor wrote in his evaluation. Build quality wasn't perfect, either; panel fits weren't all that tight and the shifter, one of the few stylish holdovers from the H2 concept truck's sharp interior, wiggled in its gate.

Obviously, GM did a better job with the outside of the H2. Two of our editors gave it a perfect 10 in the exterior design category for its exacting translation of the H1's rawness into a more refined, less cumbersome form for a more mainstream audience. Others marked it down for being "too toylike to take seriously" and for having "obscenely wide hindquarters."

Under the signature reverse-opening hood is the same 6.0-liter V8 found in the Escalade, though it's rated for less power in the Hummer — 316 horsepower and 360 pound-feet of torque (versus 345 and 380 in the Cadillac). While this V8 gives the 5,641-pound Escalade a terrific rush, it has difficulty overcoming the H2's massive weight. All of our editors wrote in their evaluations that the H2 felt slow off the line, providing merely adequate acceleration overall. Instrumented testing supported our impressions, as the H2 took 10.8 seconds to reach 60 mph. Fortunately, GM's trusty 4L65-E four-speed automatic did a good job with gear selection to maximize the available thrust. Just in case you're wondering, the H2 averaged an abysmal 9.2 miles per gallon during our week of testing — it was the only vehicle that couldn't break into double digits.

So what did we like about the H2 aside from its off-road ability and astute transmission? Well, the first- and second-row seats offer pretty good cushioning and headroom as well as multi-setting seat heaters. Then again, limited legroom and just a center lap belt make the backseat less hospitable for older kids and adults. And if you travel with a big thirst or a lot of personal effects, you may find the cupholders and in-cabin storage lacking.

The control layout in the H2 isn't bad. The climate and stereo controls are identical to those in other GM trucks, and that means they're easy to use even if they're not pleasing to the eye. But if you're looking for an authentic luxury experience, you probably won't like the three-on-one cruise/signals/wipers stalk or the fact that none of the windows roll up automatically.

Ultimately, any attempt to compliment the H2 as a luxury vehicle comes across as backhanded. Even with the Lux Series trim package, it simply can't pull off this role. Sure, it was the least expensive vehicle in our test at $55,060, but this is still a hefty price to pay for a vehicle that doesn't fit your lifestyle. And unless you're a skilled off-roader who doesn't mind tearing up vegetation, the H2 doesn't.
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Questions asked on H2 ranking
Was vehicle maligned by Power's study?
By ASHLEY McCALL
Tribune Staff Writer

Since its launch last summer, the Hummer H2 has been so ubiquitous it's giving Jennifer Lopez a run for her money.

It's on the hit television show "CSI: Miami," on music videos and on celebrities' driveways.

It was a finalist for North American Truck of the Year.

During the war in Iraq, the H2's granddaddy -- the military Humvee -- was featured prominently in television news footage as it charged across the desert.

And if all that exposure wasn't enough, countless newspaper articles and television news features have hammered -- Hummered? -- home just how hot the sport utility vehicle is with consumers.

Last week, however, the Mishawaka-made H2 found itself in an unenviable position: Dead last on the J.D. Power and Associates Initial Quality Study.

Despite the fact that, until now, much of the publicity has been positive, environmentalists' criticism of the vehicle's low fuel efficiency has lurked in the background of glowing news reports. Industry publications' and rating services' reviews of the H2 haven't been terribly effusive, either.

But J. D. Power bases its study on surveys of vehicle owners, not industry pundits. So, what gives?

Well, that depends who's answering the question, but the general consensus is that it's important to look at the survey results in context.

"The J.D. Power numbers may be skewed," said John Stoll, a staff writer at AutoWeek. "It is a good study, but it's rather broad."

Based on some of the complaints in this year's survey, Stoll takes issue with the J.D. Power study touting itself as a test of quality.

The Mini Cooper, for instance, was cited for oddly placed cupholders and the H2 for excessive fuel consumption.

"That's not a quality issue, it's a design issue buyers are unhappy with," Stoll said.

Quality in the auto industry has improved so much in recent years that consumers are expecting more and more from their cars, and the results of the J.D. Power study reflect that, said Brian Moody, a road test editor at car rating service Edmunds.com.

"I think this is sort of the icing on the cake," he said. "These days, cars are so good you don't really have to worry anymore about a car breaking down on you in the middle of nowhere. So essentially, you're left with nitpicking."

But the complaints uncovered in the survey may indicate underlying quality problems, said Brian Walters, director of automotive research at J.D. Power.

"We focus on symptoms and we don't know if the symptom is based on an expectation, not a mechanical problem," Walters said.

H2 owners reported 225 problems per 100 vehicles, with excessive fuel consumption, improperly aimed headlights and excessive wind noise topping the list of complaints.

Across the board this year, excessive fuel complaints increased significantly over last year, said Walters. Even the Toyota Prius, a hybrid-electric vehicle which achieves about 48 miles per gallon, was marked down by some owners for excessive fuel consumption.

When car owners mark down their vehicles for excessive fuel consumption, it's usually for one of three reasons, Walters said. First, it could be an actual mechanical problem. Second, the car's fuel economy -- for a number of reasons -- fails to meet the consumer's expectations. And third, the price of gas has spiked.

"But with the Hummer, let's not say it's all fuel consumption," Walters said. "Even without the excessive fuel consumption, the Hummer had 203 other problems."

General Motors Corp., which owns the Hummer brand, vowed to use the J.D. Power results as a tool for improvement.

"We take any feedback from the customer very seriously," said GM spokesman Brian Goebel. "And we're definitely not satisfied with how (the H2) came in."

Goebel added that one of the top three complaints in the J.D. Power study -- the Hummer's headlights being improperly aimed -- has already been corrected.

As for the fuel issue, GM is working to improve fuel efficiency in all of its vehicles and also determining how to better manage Hummer owners' expectations, Goebel said.

One reason H2 drivers may have been disappointed in the SUV's gas mileage is that they didn't have a benchmark to measure against: Because the Hummer weighs more than 6,000 pounds, GM is not bound to federal requirements for posting fuel economy.

On the manufacturing side, Bruce Schweizer, president of United Auto Workers Local 5, whose members build the H2 at AM General Corp.'s Mishawaka plant, was equally emphatic about using the survey results to tweak the vehicles.

"I really believe the H2 will be the most improved product line in its class next year," he said.

But Schweizer, like Stoll and Moody, emphasized it's important to consider the J.D. Power results in context.

"The quality truly is there with the product," he said. "It's just that I believe -- and this is my personal opinion -- that customer satisfaction may not have been what it should have been or the survey may have been a little skewed because we only had 112 surveys returned."

AutoWeek's Stoll disputed the idea that a poor showing on the initial quality study translates to customer dissatisfaction. He pointed to a report by consulting firm AutoPacific that put H2 owner satisfaction within the top third of the industry.

"AutoPacific, within the industry, is just as respected, although J.D. Power has the name recognition," Stoll said. "They (AutoPacific) look at what's right about the car."

Because the H2 is such a niche vehicle, both Stoll and Moody expressed doubt about the J.D. Power rating hurting Hummer sales. Both also warned against buying a car based on just one source's assessment.

Plus, one thing the J.D. Power study didn't measure is curb appeal, and the H2 has plenty of that, said Moody of Edmunds.com.

"There's plenty of people, right or wrong, who are looking at a Hummer and would never look at a Toyota Corolla," he said. "Of course, they're going to say, 'It gets poor gas mileage,' but I'm guessing the average person thinks it's worth it. It's a special kind of a car."
 

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