I have taken the plunge!

[SV_Dude]

I have had some sweet offers from guys over seas who want to mail me a money order and have their representative come pick up my vehicle. :bash:

As far as the LCE goodies. I am a bit nervous to dump that much money into my engine and trust a machinist that I cannot verify. I am not saying that my engine issue was machinist error, but it's a step that I cannot verify. So, I want to be 100% sure that this new engine was done right. Also, to get full advantage of the stroker kit I will need extensive head work.

So... I'm thinking this will go in:
22R/RE Stage 5 Pro Stroker Race Long Block

That motor with the SDS kit will probably have me around 200-220hp and a LOT more in tq.

This is assuming I still have my 4runner. If it is still on the market by mid December, I'm pulling it off the market and it will be mine forever!

 

[4Running Daily]

I have had some sweet offers from guys over seas who want to mail me a money order and have their representative come pick up my vehicle. :bash:

As far as the LCE goodies. I am a bit nervous to dump that much money into my engine and trust a machinist that I cannot verify. I am not saying that my engine issue was machinist error, but it's a step that I cannot verify. So, I want to be 100% sure that this new engine was done right. Also, to get full advantage of the stroker kit I will need extensive head work.

So... I'm thinking this will go in:
22R/RE Stage 5 Pro Stroker Race Long Block

That motor with the SDS kit will probably have me around 200-220hp and a LOT more in tq.

This is assuming I still have my 4runner. If it is still on the market by mid December, I'm pulling it off the market and it will be mine forever!

I should just buy your first gen, but you would have to sign a contract saying that you would buy a 3rd gen and make it BAD ASS

 

[SV_Dude]

I should just buy your first gen, but you would have to sign a contract saying that you would buy a 3rd gen and make it BAD ASS

Come buy it! Regardless of what I end up with I'll build it up. I have been limited to what I have been able to do this year because most of the money has been dedicated to getting out of debt. It's game on in April next year. I want to do a time warp and just make it April already!

 

[NorCalBorn]

*Now every knob in the world knows what your locale is and will be stalking your 1st-Gen. Kill switch it ASAP.*

Just saying. IMHO you'll regret if you ever sell it. I [LIKE] our 2nd-Gen, but I LOVED my 60 Series and my buddy's 1st-Gen.

Considered getting a 2nd-Gen+3.4/4.0 Swap or just goto a 3rd-Gen?

For that matter, make me an offer? I'd love to build a new 60-Series w/ a 3UR-FE swap.

 

[SV_Dude]

*Now every knob in the world knows what your locale is and will be stalking your 1st-Gen. Kill switch it ASAP.*

Just saying. IMHO you'll regret if you ever sell it. I [LIKE] our 2nd-Gen, but I LOVED my 60 Series and my buddy's 1st-Gen.

Considered getting a 2nd-Gen+3.4/4.0 Swap or just goto a 3rd-Gen?

For that matter, make me an offer? I'd love to build a new 60-Series w/ a 3UR-FE swap.

Your post confuses me... haha. If you're asking if I have considered a second gen with an engine swap, not really. If I were to go to 4 doors, it would be with one that already has the 3.4

 

[jlewis74]

That thing here would sell for 6-7K I wish I was closer to you I would buy it!

 

[NorCalBorn]

Your post confuses me... haha. If you're asking if I have considered a second gen with an engine swap, not really. If I were to go to 4 doors, it would be with one that already has the 3.4

I'm saying keep it. Build another rig, and decide to sell the 1st-Gen afterwards. Regret is 100% premature decision.

 

[KidVermicious]

So... I'm thinking this will go in:
22R/RE Stage 5 Pro Stroker Race Long Block

Racer Net: $6,595.00

:: has heart attack ::

 

[KidVermicious]

The thing is, SV, I don't think you know what you've got. Talk to the guys with the really nice later gen builds, and most every one of them will tell you they love their truck, and if you press them they'll admit that they'd rather have a 1st gen. But they don't, and here's why: with a couple notable exceptions, they're all really good with the washing and waxing and bolt-ons, and that's about it. They don't have the confidence or the skills to keep a 200,000 mile truck on the road, or make it into what they want. You do.

You've got enough blood and money invested in your 4Runner that you're gonna regret it if you sell it. You will tell yourself, one day, that you really wish you hadn't done that. Absolutely get a later model 4Runner or Landcruiser for driving in comfort and keeping the little lady happy, I think that's a great idea and if I had the money I'd be doing the same. Keep driving your beast and burning oil until you're debt free, then buy your new rig and park it while you figure out your direction you're gonna go with the motor, and then own it. But don't sell it. You'll hate yourself later, and you'll be one of those guys in the 6th gen forum lamenting the loss of your first truck.

These are things I was thinking today while busy tearing down and parting out the '86. I'm gonna shut up about it now. Hope it helps.

 

[mikebontoft]

The thing is, SV, I don't think you know what you've got. Talk to the guys with the really nice later gen builds, and most every one of them will tell you they love their truck, and if you press them they'll admit that they'd rather have a 1st gen. But they don't, and here's why: with a couple notable exceptions, they're all really good with the washing and waxing and bolt-ons, and that's about it. They don't have the confidence or the skills to keep a 200,000 mile truck on the road, or make it into what they want. You do.

You've got enough blood and money invested in your 4Runner that you're gonna regret it if you sell it. You will tell yourself, one day, that you really wish you hadn't done that. Absolutely get a later model 4Runner or Landcruiser for driving in comfort and keeping the little lady happy, I think that's a great idea and if I had the money I'd be doing the same. Keep driving your beast and burning oil until you're debt free, then buy your new rig and park it while you figure out your direction you're gonna go with the motor, and then own it. But don't sell it. You'll hate yourself later, and you'll be one of those guys in the 6th gen forum lamenting the loss of your first truck.

These are things I was thinking today while busy tearing down and parting out the '86. I'm gonna shut up about it now. Hope it helps.

my god... ITB's!!! how could you even THINK of passing that up?

 

[SV_Dude]

Odds are, I'm going to keep it anyways. I am not going to budge on my price and I haven't even had a single tire kicker yet.

The thing is, I want a toy that I can build with no limits. Well... I can do that with ANY vehicle. The only thing that a 1st gen has on any other 4runner is a soft top. I can build my interior up and make is just as plush as any 4runner too. It doesn't break my heart if I keep my 1st gen. I'm about 50/50 on it. We'll see how it pans out.

 

[SV_Dude]

:: has heart attack ::

It's a bit spendy and I could do a motor swap and have almost as much power for a lot less money. BUT... How cool would it be to have over 200hp (with reliability) on a N/A 22re? I may eventually throw the supercharger or turbo kit on it... We'll see.

If I keep my 4runner I want to do something that I haven't seen before. It's really hard to be unique with these 1st gens because so many people have built them up in so many different ways. That's one of the reasons I want to rebuild all of the interior and make it black. How many 1st gens have you seen with black interior? When it comes to suspension, it's all been done before so there's no uniqueness there. But I can do the engine in a way that I haven't seen, I can fab up some of the interior and dye the rest and do a little here and there to the body and truly make this a one of a kind 4runner.

 

[BucknutBob]

Just remember the golden rule of building drivetrains--everything must work together. Yeah, it would be cool to have a really powerful engine, but then you risk breaking the parts that come after it, especially when the power is laid down under the binding and stress of offroading (that's why my bone stock V8 is staying bone stock). Also, with a four-banger, usually the more power it makes, the higher the powerband moves up the RPM scale--not good for wheeling. I was just about to suggest what you said about the interior, but you're obviously on top of it--you can always make a vehicle more pleasant to live with inside, if you really want to keep it. Put some sound-deadening material under everything, some nice aftermarket seats and steering wheel, maybe a console, some fresh carpeting--heck, you won't want to climb out when you get home!

 

[SV_Dude]

Just remember the golden rule of building drivetrains--everything must work together. Yeah, it would be cool to have a really powerful engine, but then you risk breaking the parts that come after it, especially when the power is laid down under the binding and stress of offroading (that's why my bone stock V8 is staying bone stock). Also, with a four-banger, usually the more power it makes, the higher the powerband moves up the RPM scale--not good for wheeling. I was just about to suggest what you said about the interior, but you're obviously on top of it--you can always make a vehicle more pleasant to live with inside, if you really want to keep it. Put some sound-deadening material under everything, some nice aftermarket seats and steering wheel, maybe a console, some fresh carpeting--heck, you won't want to climb out when you get home!

From what I have heard, the tranny and transfer case are pretty stout. I will however rebuild the front and rear end using beefier parts like dana 60's or diamonds.

As for the interior, I had all of the above in mind and more. I'll sound deaden the whole interior, new carpet, new seats (front and rear), reupholster the dash pad using new foam and some seat material from whichever seat company I use, build or buy a new locking center console that has some cup holders. I'll rebuild the side panels using some black vinyl and fiberglass. I'll also take all of the stock plastic and clean it up and dye it black. I'll put some speaker pods for some decent mid range speakers and tweeters on the a-pillar covers, 6.5 mid bass speakers in the kick panels, sub and amp in the rear behind the wheel well... It will be done completely top to bottom.

If it turns out to where I keep this runner then hopefully when I'm done with it, it will definitely be a one of a kind 4runner.

 

[mpleitez]

From what I have heard, the tranny and transfer case are pretty stout. I will however rebuild the front and rear end using beefier parts like dana 60's or diamonds.

As for the interior, I had all of the above in mind and more. I'll sound deaden the whole interior, new carpet, new seats (front and rear), reupholster the dash pad using new foam and some seat material from whichever seat company I use, build or buy a new locking center console that has some cup holders. I'll rebuild the side panels using some black vinyl and fiberglass. I'll also take all of the stock plastic and clean it up and dye it black. I'll put some speaker pods for some decent mid range speakers and tweeters on the a-pillar covers, 6.5 mid bass speakers in the kick panels, sub and amp in the rear behind the wheel well... It will be done completely top to bottom.

If it turns out to where I keep this runner then hopefully when I'm done with it, it will definitely be a one of a kind 4runner.

Damn it already sounds like a one of a kind, GOOD LUCK

 

[BucknutBob]

From what I have heard, the tranny and transfer case are pretty stout. I will however rebuild the front and rear end using beefier parts like dana 60's or diamonds.

Yeah, they are considered solid units, as are the axles. I did a lot of reading before deciding on my engine swap, and the pros almost universally say the drivetrain can handle quite a bit more power than stock; but they also caution against too heavy of a right foot with such increases. You should be fine with what you're planning. On the axles, upgrades to the Yota's will work, without having to go for 60's--although I must admit, I'd go for purpose-built units myself with a healthier budget. Here's hoping you get to build exactly the kind of truck you envision!

 

[thatoneguy]

Yeah, they are considered solid units, as are the axles. I did a lot of reading before deciding on my engine swap, and the pros almost universally say the drivetrain can handle quite a bit more power than stock; but they also caution against too heavy of a right foot with such increases. You should be fine with what you're planning. On the axles, upgrades to the Yota's will work, without having to go for 60's--although I must admit, I'd go for purpose-built units myself with a healthier budget. Here's hoping you get to build exactly the kind of truck you envision!

+1. There's a guy over here running a Toyota 1UZ (4.0L Lexus V8) in his 1st gen. I believe he's on an R150 w/ custom bellhousing. Not sure. But he drives the **** out of it. It doesn't blow up.

They seem like they can withstand power. Meanwhile, a friends' Cherokee blew its diff two weeks ago after accidentally slipping off the clutch at idle in a parking lot. Apparently a Dana 35 can't withstand 4.0 torque. At idle.

 

[chrisb]

finally someone says 1uz if you want to be cool do the lexus auto tranny and prerunner adapter with dual 23spline cases then you have 230 mad donkies all stock the v8 sound and lighter than a v6 . I really don't see why people spend that uch money on building a 22r when there are plenty of swaps out there , if you look you can get a entire running ls400 for less than $1000 ,look at the youtube vids of them (lexus hilux)
plus toyota axles are same axle size as a 60 any way ,not ifs but sawzaw and welder can fix that :trophy:

 

[SV_Dude]

Because I don't want an auto tranny. The idea of spending that much on a 22re is because it would be cool as heck to have a full blown 22re. I wouldn't be opposed to have a mildly built 5vz either. It wouldn't be hard to squeeze out 300 ponies with a 5vz.

 

[thatoneguy]

Because I don't want an auto tranny. The idea of spending that much on a 22re is because it would be cool as heck to have a full blown 22re. I wouldn't be opposed to have a mildly built 5vz either. It wouldn't be hard to squeeze out 300 ponies with a 5vz.

Idk. I'm against 22re building. I watched a buddy take a 22rte and spend 2k in parts and machining, and while it had good power, it lasted months before blowing. He's back to a stock 22re in the truck now.

3.4's with a proper supercharger setup have serious power.