00runerltd
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I'm in the market for a new set of tires for my 00 4Runner. I shouldn't be off-roading, or even getting my feet cold in the snow. Just around town, but I want something substantial. Any help?
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I just purchased a set of Firestone Destination A/T, 255/70/16's. These look great and aggressive (enough) and i actually am getting an additional 20-30 miles per tank in the last two months. I had 265/70/16's in the past and tried these to see if i'd gain any mpg's. I averaged 19.3 mpg prior and have been getting 19.8 mpg since putting these on. Hope that helps!
peter78
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They are definitely nice tires. I have them on my 4Runner now. I might also mention Michelin Cross Terrians. They are a bit more expensive than the LTX, but they give a great ride, very stable and excellent handling. They tend to not last as long as LTX's, but they are great for the street. I had a set, before the LTX's.p nut said:
blackikon said:
Are you sure you're getting an actual 20-30 miles more per tank? Since your new tires are smaller than the stock ones, this means that your odo miles will show more than what was actually traveled. So figuring that your new tires are about 4% smaller than stock, it should net you that much more on MPG's. So your observed 19.8 MPG increase results in a 3% increase over the old MPG figure. So unless you recalibrated your odo or did the calcuations using GPS, I don't think you gained any MPG's. Not only that, you lost some ground clearance, too...
Sorry to rain on your parade.
No umbrella needed Ron. The 235, 255, 265 etc. measurement on these tires has to do with the width of the tire. The width of the tire has no bearing on the odo. Thanks for the thought though. I had a 70 and kept a 70, just downsized the width, hence the lower weight to drag around town, hence the MPG increase.
Snookster
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p nut said:Are you sure you're getting an actual 20-30 miles more per tank? Since your new tires are smaller than the stock ones, this means that your odo miles will show more than what was actually traveled. So figuring that your new tires are about 4% smaller than stock, it should net you that much more on MPG's. So your observed 19.8 MPG increase results in a 3% increase over the old MPG figure. So unless you recalibrated your odo or did the calcuations using GPS, I don't think you gained any MPG's. Not only that, you lost some ground clearance, too...
Sorry to rain on your parade.
tooshay.... I had thought about this but didn't stop to do the math. and truthfully didnt think it would be that big of deal. PNUT you always lay the facts out
steezemcqueen
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The best all around tire hands down is the BFG A/T KO.
I wouldn't put anything else on my Runner
I wouldn't put anything else on my Runner
blackikon said:
Sorry, blackikon, but the second number is the "aspect ratio", not the actual measurment. So a 265/70/16 would indicate that the tire is 265mm wide and the sidewall is 70% of the width.
Please refer to tirerack's info.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=46
thegreenmonster said:
You can't just recommend a tire based on what you find to be the best for your needs. This guy won't be leaving the pavement at all. How can you suggest a tire meant mostly for off-road? I'd much rather have the plushier ride of an all-season tire if I were never to go off-road. Not only that, all-seasons have superior wet traction than the K/O's, would last longer and will generally be cheaper.
No offense taken here. Glad to relay some info over. Oh, and you WILL need this:
Side note: Snook - That's a nice new Avatar. :bigok:
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steezemcqueen
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p nut said:
i knew i was going to get some heat for that. i do agree with you on the price factor. the BFG's aren't cheap. but you pay for what you get
As for the ride, i drive 50 miles a day to school on the highway and i have found that to ride quality and noise is comparable to the Dunlop all season's on my brother's 4runner. the treadwear on the BFG's is amazing. i currently have 45,000 miles on mine (which will need to be replaced in the summer) and Tire Rack has reports of people getting up to 100,000 miles on one set
but like i said, i think that the BFG's are the best ALL AROUND tire. that said, you may find something better for you specific needs
just my 2 cents
P.S. my brother just replaced the Dunlops with BFG's after driving my truck and his sees little to no dirt/snow
Sloan
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i'm wondering when i upgrade my tires if the TerraGrapplers or the BFG A/Ts will be best for me. as far as off-road its only about dirt roads and creek riding. mainly pavement with rain being a factory a little. i want something that looks aggressive to as i want a off-road look. anybody else have a opinon between these two?
thegreenmonster said:
First of all, Dunlop's generally suck. You will notice a plushier ride comparing K/0's with all-seasons. There is no way around that--it is a fact. All seasons have a better water channel than K/O's. All seasons will be quieter on the road.
Once again, THIS GUY IS NOT GOING TO GO OFF-ROAD. He doesn't need an A/T tire. Why do you keep bringing up the point of this being your best "all around tire" when it's not this guy's best choice for his "all around tire"? Please base your answers on the specific question being asked.
Ron Helmuth
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several of us run the Nittos
Quite a few of us run the Nitto Terra Grapplers-I do feel it likely works fine as an all around tire-but I am biased towards off roading any chance I can get. At around $120-$130 per tire I felt it was a nice compromise for the occasional off road adventure and the 90% of the time my rig just hauls my butt back and forth to work.
If your Runner is never going to see dirt or rocks-then a P series passenger car tire will likely give you the comfiest and quietest ride. A LT (light truck) designated tire is inherently going to be stiffer and louder.
Personally I would never go back to BFG's -I was never happy with the rubber compound consistency after about 10K miles of wear but that is just me-I have not tried a set in 12 years or so.
Tire choice is a myriad of options-I would first decide if you want to stick with the stock size-I presume yours is the 265/70/16
and if not that size- then the 265/75/16 do work but I and a few others experience a small amount of front rubbing.
Sloan said:
Quite a few of us run the Nitto Terra Grapplers-I do feel it likely works fine as an all around tire-but I am biased towards off roading any chance I can get. At around $120-$130 per tire I felt it was a nice compromise for the occasional off road adventure and the 90% of the time my rig just hauls my butt back and forth to work.
If your Runner is never going to see dirt or rocks-then a P series passenger car tire will likely give you the comfiest and quietest ride. A LT (light truck) designated tire is inherently going to be stiffer and louder.
Personally I would never go back to BFG's -I was never happy with the rubber compound consistency after about 10K miles of wear but that is just me-I have not tried a set in 12 years or so.
Tire choice is a myriad of options-I would first decide if you want to stick with the stock size-I presume yours is the 265/70/16
and if not that size- then the 265/75/16 do work but I and a few others experience a small amount of front rubbing.
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