I have an over-hyper 5 yr old son who can add another 30 hp for you....If not I think i have two donkeys for added torque =D
I'm givin her all she's got Captin!!!
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I have an over-hyper 5 yr old son who can add another 30 hp for you....If not I think i have two donkeys for added torque =D
I still have my fingers cross for Gadget to finish his Whipple project for our motors. URD just needs to get their software done.
As tempting as this is the loss of my warranty isn't worth it.
Yeah, but by the time most would get it, the mileage/warranty will be ran out anyways right?
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Least it will be for me as I do about 20k miles a year or more.
Lolrax
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LAB4US
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Granted I don't even have 1k miles yet, however my T4R seems fine, power-wise. I don't have to climb hills, however every day I do leave from a stop sign, cross 2 lanes to get to a highway entrance ramp, and get to 70 or so to merge...all in about 200-300 ft...and this T4R seems to get me there every time without even having to push to the floorboard.
Now I will say it's not near as fun as my old 2011 5.0 mustang where I could pull the front end off the ground on the same path...but then again, I know this is a truck and don't expect to do 60 in 4.9 or less...:bounce:
Now I will say it's not near as fun as my old 2011 5.0 mustang where I could pull the front end off the ground on the same path...but then again, I know this is a truck and don't expect to do 60 in 4.9 or less...:bounce:
nevada
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I don't notice the AC at all with my 06/4.7
paddlenbike
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Some cars allow remapping of the drive-by-wire, which sounds like it could solve some of your issues. The 5th gen isn't that slow. 0-60 they are actually quicker than a non-VVTi V8 4Runner.
Toyota 0-60 times, fastest to slowest:
6.1 seconds - 2002 TRD Supercharged Tacoma S-Runner
6.4 seconds - 1997 TRD Supercharged 4WD 4Runner (3rd gen)
7.2 seconds - 2005 4Runner V8 (VVTi)
7.5 seconds - 2014 4Runner
7.8 seconds - 2010 4Runner
7.9 seconds - 1999 Toyota 4Runner manual transmission
8.0 seconds - 2003 4Runner V8 (non-VVTi)
8.0 seconds - Tundra Access Cab V8
8.9 seconds - 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited Automatic
8.9 seconds - Toyota Sequoia Limited (V8)
9.4 seconds - Toyota Landcruiser 100-series V8
Toyota 0-60 times, fastest to slowest:
6.1 seconds - 2002 TRD Supercharged Tacoma S-Runner
6.4 seconds - 1997 TRD Supercharged 4WD 4Runner (3rd gen)
7.2 seconds - 2005 4Runner V8 (VVTi)
7.5 seconds - 2014 4Runner
7.8 seconds - 2010 4Runner
7.9 seconds - 1999 Toyota 4Runner manual transmission
8.0 seconds - 2003 4Runner V8 (non-VVTi)
8.0 seconds - Tundra Access Cab V8
8.9 seconds - 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited Automatic
8.9 seconds - Toyota Sequoia Limited (V8)
9.4 seconds - Toyota Landcruiser 100-series V8
The throttle mapping is exactly what the problem is. In regular drive it sucks, in sport mode it's better but could still use some improvement. I drive in sport mode most of the time now.
I had the same problem with my Corvette but a tune took care of the issue. Made the throttle response nice and sharp. Plus the added HP wasn't too bad either.
URD built headers and cat back exhaust are the best on the market for our gens and produce the most hp and tq verse the other manufacturers. I also contacted Bully Dog and they told me they've gained 10 whp/12 wtq just off their tuner alone. I don't have any doubt the stock stuff if very restrictive and adding aftermarket goodies will gain you the power I listed earlier. The guy i ran into with a 5th gen with full URD exhaust said he noticed a huge gain is hp/tq over the stock. Here is the dyno graph and the link from URD for JUST their header install with base runs laid over the header install runs. I've been building cars for a long time and these power increases for just headers aren't unheard of especially if the stock ones are restrictive. Btw this dyno was a Tacoma XRUNNER and URD said the 4runner will see the same gains in hp/tq.
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I'm not sure but they do for 2010-2012. I own a 2012 so I didn't care to ask about the 2014+. Email Bully Dog and find out.
That might be true but we can hope. Btw has anybody with a 5th gen tried to fit the FJ TRD blower on? I don't know exactly what Toyota changed from the FJ 4.0 to the 4runners 4.0 engines for the TRD unit not to work. I thought they were pretty much the same engine minus some power and maybe a few other external parts. Since they have the same engine code I woukd think the block/heads/lower intake manifolds would be the same.
Bevo
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But you posted in WTERUNNER's thread and he has a 2015. Telling him to get a tuner that doesn't exist and posting dyno results from a Tacoma does him no good.
sandcrawler
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the dual VVTi 1GR-FE introduced in the 2010 model year is NOT compatible with the TRD supercharger, which was designed for the single VVTi 1GR-FE ('07-'09).
no one's tried it because it will not work.
philsey
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I'm digging way back in memory, but IIRC member [MENTION=8206]harper7[/MENTION] installed headers. He also took them back off because (I think) his 4R wouldn't pass his state's emission test.
Installing the shortie headers will not cause you not to pass emissions. That's unless he had the long tube headers that eliminated the converters and had a CEL on. Is his state one where they do an actual physical inspection? See here in WI you only go to a repair shop or dealership that does the OBDII emission testing and they just hook up to the OBDII and check for codes, current and history. Another cool thing about Wisconsin is only the metro counties in the state have emission testing. Rual counties don't require testing so you just pay for the renewal. What I've done on my title applications is put vehicle kept in such and such county so I don't have to take emission tests but my family does have property in a county with no testing. That way I can do whatever I want to my vehicles without the worry of not passing.
I haven't found any dyno graphs of any shortie headers installed on the 5th gen. I assume the gains from shorties will still be in the range of 15-20hp and 20-25tq. If you ever seen the stock headers they are a log design and with this design the cylinders are fighting each other during their exhaust pluses. Equals poor flow characteristics.
If you live in a state like mine installing long tube headers with a o2 simulator will work out just fine and you won't have a CEL on due to the loss of the front catalytic converters. Five catalytic converter is good for emissions but suck for performance and that's just too many. I thought three converters was a lot but these newer vehicles with five is insane. Lol
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The suggestions on how to increase the HP are appreciated but aren't really applicable to my truck for two reasons. One I only have 150 miles on it so adding aftermarket headers, exhaust or a supercharger isn't going to happen. I can't risk voiding my warranty. Second, my truck is a 2015 so none of the mods mentioned will work. The only modifications that I would consider are a TRD Intake and exhaust system as they wont void the warranty if installed by the dealer. Or so I'm told.
I actually don't think the truck needs more power, the problem is the soft throttle response programmed in by Toyota. The sport mode is better so that's what I've been using. Hopefully once the truck gets more miles on it and I put better gas in it the response will improve.
I actually don't think the truck needs more power, the problem is the soft throttle response programmed in by Toyota. The sport mode is better so that's what I've been using. Hopefully once the truck gets more miles on it and I put better gas in it the response will improve.
FrontRange4Runner
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Keep in mind that the "S" on the transmission stands for sequential not sport, like on other vehicles. The only thing it does is allow you to select the gear you want. It does not change the throttle mapping or anything like that....unless they changed it for 2015. Basically, if you wanna go faster, you just gotta push the pedal a lot more than an older vehicle.
I'm not sure if they changed it or not but the truck feels more responsive in that mode. Especially when merging onto the freeway. In drive the truck likes to short shift into the higher gears and then acceleration suffers.
