Its Flooding Down In Texas And My 4Runner May Be A Victim

Doing swap for the larger tundra motor would be a more expensive option then trying to fit the V8 from the GX460/470 as at least the smaller V8 has been used in our frame. I don't think I would bother unless you really want to do this and have deep pockets going into an "unknown" is always going to costs more, you have the engine, Controllers, mounts, exhaust system, likely new Transmission and drive shafts etc. If I was to ever attempt this I would find a salvaged GX and use it as a donor car and then try to part out/sell the rest to recoup some costs.

I would recommend sticking with like for like.

Actually, go for it and please have the shop document all parts/modifications needed so people can have a better idea on the costs/work involved in the future :)

Sorry for the loss and I am glad it was from trying to do a helpful deed
 
Call the insurance company and get their estimate. They are going to make an offer of value using a used motor from a wrecked runner most likely. Once they make the offer you can decide what to do with the money. Either pay the difference and get a brand new Toyota engine or do whatever you want. Just remember if you modify it you MAY have to purchase supplemental insurance to cover modded components or the next bill will be totally yours. Check with your agent to make sure what it is you need to do.
 
The quote you got is very likely for a rebuild or 2nd hand engine. I do not believe Toyota sells complete long block engines. IIRC you will have to buy a short block (no heads) and then assemble and install. If you need new heads, they come bare - nothing in them, so then you need cams, valves, etc to put it together. EDIT: It's a lot cheaper than some other 1GR short blocks. A 4runner version is only $3290. That's really not bad considering what some other engine costs are from Mr. T.

I have never had a rebuilt engine be as good as a new one. There isn't an engine shop in the world that can match what an OEM facility does in terms of building long lasting engines. So.. if it were me - I'd take a replacement out of a wrecked 4runner over a rebuild. And I'd also take a replacement out of a wrecked 4runner over a new short block with all new OEM toyota parts assembled by your local toyota mechanic. Just my opinion.

I would also guess that you didn't "seize" your engine. Most likely if it is damaged it either broke a piston or a connecting rod due to water entering a cylinder. If the engine will turn over freely but just won't start, I would want to see evidence that it's damaged internally. Most shops can run a scope down each spark plug hole and find the bad cyl and show you a picture of it. If it just won't start you might well have just caused some electrical component to fail. For example if you damaged the MAF sensor it might cut out or stall but only require replacing that sensor.

Good luck!
 
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Modern Toyotas are very difficult to engine swap. It's generally a very bad idea with 0 vendor support of any kind.

The only viable options would be to rebuild the motor with a strocker crank and even that hardly seems worth it.

How high was the water. Did you try to restart it once it stopped running?

I would assume insurance will cover it.
 
Sorry to hear about your ride, man. I got lucky to not be stuck out in it, unlike the memorial day storm last year. Hope your insurance is helpful

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Call the insurance company and get their estimate. They are going to make an offer of value using a used motor from a wrecked runner most likely. Once they make the offer you can decide what to do with the money. Either pay the difference and get a brand new Toyota engine or do whatever you want. Just remember if you modify it you MAY have to purchase supplemental insurance to cover modded components or the next bill will be totally yours. Check with your agent to make sure what it is you need to do.
Good tip, thanks
 
I am curious what the second shop says.

Just how much did you swamp it?
I got in just above the fogs on the SW bumper. Second shop says first shop is a den of thieves. Not locked...just need a starter and major tune up.
 
I got in just above the fogs on the SW bumper. Second shop says first shop is a den of thieves. Not locked...just need a starter and major tune up.

I did not want to jump to that conclusion, but that is what I was suspecting.

I have played in the water a lot in the past, and though hydrolocking happens, more often than not it does not happen. It usually takes some serious submerging to get to that point. Plenty of times the engine will just turn off before sucking in enough water to cause damage like that.

Being just above the fogs on the SW bumper in my opinion would not be enough to cause a lock at all, unless just very unlucky that day.

Great that second opinion came through!
 
Really? That sounds like she was drunk or out of her mind... Anyway, she might get stuck in the vehicle because of high water with high pressure on the doors. Exit the vehicle right away if the it stalls in the water.

Overconfidence seems to be a common theme in this thread.
 
I did not want to jump to that conclusion, but that is what I was suspecting.

I have played in the water a lot in the past, and though hydrolocking happens, more often than not it does not happen. It usually takes some serious submerging to get to that point. Plenty of times the engine will just turn off before sucking in enough water to cause damage like that.

Being just above the fogs on the SW bumper in my opinion would not be enough to cause a lock at all, unless just very unlucky that day.

Great that second opinion came through!


Well, we installed new starter and did a complete tune up. The truck started and then locked up! I'm back to sq 1
 
Well, we installed new starter and did a complete tune up. The truck started and then locked up! I'm back to sq 1

It was most likely hydro locked from the beginning. When someone tells you you need a tune-up.... Well, they probably don't know what they are doing LOL. Modern cars don't really get "tune ups".

If your motor stalled while in the water... And you tried to start it... That is when the damage was done. The initial stall if at idle rarely hurts the internals. The tq of the starter does however bend rods, kill bearings...... It's really bad to try to start it without first pulling all the plugs.

Your best bet is to simply file an insurance claim. It should be covered.
 
It was most likely hydro locked from the beginning. When someone tells you you need a tune-up.... Well, they probably don't know what they are doing LOL. Modern cars don't really get "tune ups".

If your motor stalled while in the water... And you tried to start it... That is when the damage was done. The initial stall if at idle rarely hurts the internals. The tq of the starter does however bend rods, kill bearings...... It's really bad to try to start it without first pulling all the plugs.

Your best bet is to simply file an insurance claim. It should be covered.

Mutters something about getting a front axle housing replaced by insurance after an unplanned maneuver 4x4ing at night (not a 4runner)
 
Damn that's too bad. Hope you chase down the issue soon bud

Here's my buddy's Tacoma a few weeks back. Although it didn't stall, a few days after it wouldn't start. (Clicked, no crank) All he needed was to pull the starter and sand the corrosion from the leads. Good as new!

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