Jackets... What your go to?

Yep! That's what it is, the Alpinist. The inner "wallet" pocket is one of my favorite things about it. The right side inner pocket is actually mesh and sized for a Nalgene bottle.

I taped the seams on my OR gloves. :biggrin1:

:)
Yes, keep that liter bottle from freezing. The North Face Kitchatna I had had 2 such mesh pockets. Sometimes I put my partially-filled camelbak bladder in there, run the hose behind my neck, to keep water from freezing.
 
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... Arcteryx has definitely been taking advantage of that with their lower-level clothing. I'd never pay $40 for an Arcteryx cotton shirt. Most of that cost is just in the logo.
Yup, No $40 beanie when i can get one at Daiso for $3 - LOL!
But, Man, the attention to detail! It makes gear the way I would make it, including the Gloves that cost more than someone's Goretex jacket. LOL!

Although, I still take a few unnecessary things off my already minimal jacket - LOL!

For "technical" fabric without added cost of the logo, Target's C9 brand is excellent value.
 
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i only buy Arc'teryx......when its on sale.

Seriously, they like to use cutting edge material, and very good craftsmanship, which results in lightweight but very strong/warm clothing that will last years. I also like the way their stuff is cut.

Anyways, I tend to buy it only when its on sale during the offseason which means I have all these weird or loud colors nobody else wants, but I'm approaching an age where Im fashionably uncool no matter what I wear.

I don't have a problem with Arc'teryx having more fashion oriented lines.... All the hippie outwear companies do, and they are all stupidly expensive (Kuhl, Prana, panagonia, etc). As long as the quality or craftsman is better than the other hippie stuff, I'd buy it (if its on sale).

My ex-GF use to say, "You spend all this money to look like dirty hippies"....
 
Ok so $575 gets the outer shell but not the other two jackets (yellow and blue) he is wearing beneath the Shell?

For near $600 you'd think that a great jacket wouldn't require you to buy two other jackets to wear underneath it just to see stay warm. I'm a bit based though, living in SoCal.
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It would certainly but you can get various kinds of fleece jackets or vests or down jackets or vests fairly cheap...... like less than $50 or $25 cheap. Last year I picked up a fantastic medium weight full down jacket from REI for $19. Sure it’s green but I could care less. Warm as can be. Costco has them for under 30.

The Beta AR can be easily found on sale also. Mine was $415.... black. On sale from some reputable online reseller. Still expense but not crazy......and it’s literally made to last years. They are cut athletically though so not for everyone.


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My Arcteryx Atom LT hoody is my go to for everything and has been for almost 8 years. It is great for mild temps just standing around or well below freezing if you’re active. I pair mine with an Alpha SV shell when things get serious. Anything with a dead bird sewn onto it is going to cost a small fortune though. But it’s worth it. I also have a ghost whisperer from mountain hardware that’s insanely too hot all the time...
 
I loooooove outerwear! Ohio affords plenty of different climates for different jackets, have a closet full of TNF. I think Arc'teryx stuff is nice but don’t own any as I don’t light my cigars with $100 bills.

Recently came upon some Helly Hansen Workwear stuff, it’s well built.
 
NorthFace Thermoball.

Weighs less than 14oz. Great on its own or layering.


It can be worn from the low 60's down to the upper 30's with just a t-shirt underneath.
When it gets 20-30 degrees, I can wear a mid-weight base layer under it and be fine.
When I'm snowboarding on those REALLY cold days (-15 to 0 degrees at the peak), I wear it under my snowboarding jacket.

It really is the best all-rounder and definitely my "go-to". My only suggestion is to get a darker color. I have orange and silver and both of them have dirty sleeves near the wrist. But I've owned both for 3 or 4 years now and wear them almost daily from fall-spring.

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I think Arc'teryx stuff is nice but don’t own any as I don’t light my cigars with $100 bills.

Helps when you don't smoke cigars to begin with!

A joke, but sort of true. Personally, I don't have many vices like cigars. I'm also not a big drinker and I don't drink coffee. All of those things can add up to an Arcteryx jacket fast.
 
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When it comes to water-proof shells, you typically get what you pay for. But the logo costs an additional $100 or so - LOL! but seriously, look at the Marmot Minimalist with Gore-tex SL. It costs approx$200. now look at Arcteryx with same material and it costs upwards of $300.

Need to shop for good value, depending on what you need them for and how long you want them to last.

Typically, Gore-tex jackets are more expensive but are more durable than the other "proprietary" waterproof-breathable fabrics, and guaranteed against material failure under normal use. After all, Gore-tex is teflon, same stuff on cookware we pour oil on, heat up and cool down, scrape, wash, over and over. The membrane itself barely breaks down - points of failure are: (a) Adhesive that makes it stick to the nylon fabric or, (b) the tape that seals the seams.
Examples:
1) Yetix's Marmot above has been around since the 90's,
2) My The North Face Mountain Light, bought in 1996 is still in excellent condtion,
3) My well-used late-90's TNF Kitchatna was in decent condition until last year when seam tape started to delaminate. I could fix that myself but TNF replaced with brand-new jacket. However, I find TNF too "styling" and baggy so my go-to now is trim-fitting Arcteryx^^^.
4) I had an Arcteryx Alpha SV from 2004 where seam tapes have delaminated. Around 2016 Arcteryx replaced that with a brand-new one under warranty. :)

The Sub-$200 waterproof-breathable rain jackets typically use inferior "proprietary" coatings like, "Elements", Hyvent, Membrain, etc. I've seen those go bad in a couple of years, and I don't know how good warranty is on those.


Arcteryx is typically very expensive, but rightfully so because of its attention to detail, and workmanship. PLUS the cost of the logo, of course.
Example:
Look at the Marmot Minimalist or The North Face models. It have hip pockets that add bulk or sore points, and will be rendered useless under a backpack hip-belt.
Look at any Arcteryx climbing/backpacking jacket, and you would not find same hip pockets. They'd either have chest-level pockets or Napoleon pockets that are accessible even with a backpack and/or climbing harness on.

Being in So Cal is in fact a good reason why one should dress in layers. When one is active when there's precipitation, a rain jacket with built-in insulation would get too hot, so a shell would be the way to go. When one stops moving, he would get cold so he'd need to add an insulating layer.


Yep. Layering is the way to go if you’re active (hiking, XC skiing, snow shoeing, etc.). Base layer of a synthetic undershirt, maybe a synthetic long sleeve turtleneck too. A lightweight fleece jacket or similar on top of that. If it’s colder or windy or snowing or raining you put on a waterproof shell jacket. And wear a hat. If you get too hot you ventilate and/or take off layers. Don't let yourself sweat.

I have a lot of Patagonia clothing. I bought a waterproof shell from them almost 20 years ago for about $300 and wore it 10 years until the Goretex started to delaminate. I took it back to the store, got the latest model for free, and it’s performed great.
The highest price, highest quality manufactures stand by their gear and have long or lifetime warranties.
 
... the Goretex started to delaminate. I took it back to the store, got the latest model for free, and it’s performed great...
The highest price, highest quality manufactures stand by their gear and have long or lifetime warranties.
Yup got lots of similar actual first-hand experience like that with Arcteryx, TNF and W.L. Gore themselves for material failure.. delaminated Gore-tex, and delaminated seam-tapes.
 
So I have I think 9 jackets. I have two just for wearing over suits one rain one wool, I have a Duluth fleece lined shirt jack, because I run my chainsaw into early November preparing for the heating season, an ultra light rain jacket for hiking/backpacking. You name it and I basically have something for the specific task and conditions. most recently I purchased a new snowboarding jacket as the one I had since 2003 was starting to come apart on both the inside and out... I confess after 16 years it didn't really owe me anything. I got a"686 Smarty 3-in-1 form" jacket on sale, normal retail is about 260 I got it for just under 200 and wow, so much warmer than my old one. the guy who sold it to me said the filaments inside synthetic jackets physically breakdown over time, almost like little fibers with air in them and as time goes by the "pop" like bubble wrap and lose their insulative qualities. not sure if that was totally true or the technology improved or what, the first time out I was at Waterville Valley with a -10 wind chill and sweating! needless to say I am impressed by its warmth an it's very easy to move around in, also lots of pockets! I have a season pass and there is a pocket just for that, an oversized goggle pocket they seem to have thought of everything. On the outer shell there are also generous vents for riding well into spring, with all the snow we've had up here I think I'll be riding till tax day!
 
Mountain Hardwear Ghost Whisperer

8.8 oz, 800 fill down, wind and water resistant, crazy warm. I can use it down to about 10F here in Minnesota with a proper underlayer…always Smartwool.
 
Depends on where I'm at and the conditions.
Snowing? Cold and rain? Warm and rain. Cold and dry? How long am I going to be outside? Am I going to be active or idle?
I keep 5 layers on hand as I travel for a living.
PVC rainsuit, insulated rain shell, not insulated rain/wind shell, zip hoodie sweatshirt, light weight long sleeve shirt.
It may be 120° outside but I have to spend several hours on a 0° dock throwing 40,000 lbs of freight. Along with all the associated weather a truck driver encounters day to day.
One day 100° at home in AZ. Next day a blizzard in CO. Next day a warm spring rain in KS.

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patagucci nano puffer or whatever they call it for 99 percent of the time in socal.

As per my previous post, arcteryx everything else when the weather turns to crap, and if i can get it on sale.
 

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