Thefishguy77
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Let's not forget all those that gave their life to try and save ours 15 years ago tod
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LittleCaesar
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I was in college, had been to the city two months prior to this.
I hope this is the worst day in America I ever have to bear witness to. At 38, maybe, maybe not.
It changed America, and IMHO, not for the better.
First responders never get the praise and acknowledgement for all they risk they undertake to save the lives of strangers.
I hope this is the worst day in America I ever have to bear witness to. At 38, maybe, maybe not.
It changed America, and IMHO, not for the better.
First responders never get the praise and acknowledgement for all they risk they undertake to save the lives of strangers.
BrianSD_42
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Will never forget. Agree it did change things and I don't think we are going down the right path.
Many of you have probably seen this but if not, I'd suggest checking out this NON-political HBO documentary about the Firefighters of NY and those who served on 9/11. It's also available in HD on HBO Go/Now.
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As to at least one aspect of the politics of 9/11, I think many forget or fail to realize that Bin Laden's goal was to hit the United States in 3 pillars:
1) The economy and the symbol of US economic strength (the twin towers)
2) The heart of the military (the Pentagon)
3) The US capitol / congress (flight 93)
Their mission was highly political, highly organized and each group of hijackers was supported by 5-10 Al-Q handlers in the US.
Many of you have probably seen this but if not, I'd suggest checking out this NON-political HBO documentary about the Firefighters of NY and those who served on 9/11. It's also available in HD on HBO Go/Now.
<iframe width="853" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/YGqbKSr-46w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
As to at least one aspect of the politics of 9/11, I think many forget or fail to realize that Bin Laden's goal was to hit the United States in 3 pillars:
1) The economy and the symbol of US economic strength (the twin towers)
2) The heart of the military (the Pentagon)
3) The US capitol / congress (flight 93)
Their mission was highly political, highly organized and each group of hijackers was supported by 5-10 Al-Q handlers in the US.
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5ontheFloor
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I was in high school that day and watched the towers fall on TV during my shop class. There were no girls in our class, and everyone in that class, including my teacher, could not hold back the tears as we watched it all unfold. I can't talk about it now without shedding some tears. I will not forget...
JayceeP
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It's hard to fathom it all. I too was in high school at the time. I haven't really "connected" with this event until this year where I read a little more, watched a little more, and listened a little more.
I can't imagine the pain of the families that know their loved ones made a decision to go in those buildings knowing they might not come out.
The anguish of those on the planes... We seem to have more info about Flght 93. Those last words to families, a likely suicide mission to end a suicide mission, and those courageous words, "Let's roll!" It gives me chills.
I uncovered other stories such as Brian Clark and Stanley Praimnath, which was a story of fate/chance. How lucky they were.
I also read about those who jumped and ended their lives on their own terms. It sickens me to think they had to make such a decision.
Would it give them (the victims) and their families any comfort to know that we at least think of them in general terms?
Hopefully it never happens again.
I can't imagine the pain of the families that know their loved ones made a decision to go in those buildings knowing they might not come out.
The anguish of those on the planes... We seem to have more info about Flght 93. Those last words to families, a likely suicide mission to end a suicide mission, and those courageous words, "Let's roll!" It gives me chills.
I uncovered other stories such as Brian Clark and Stanley Praimnath, which was a story of fate/chance. How lucky they were.
I also read about those who jumped and ended their lives on their own terms. It sickens me to think they had to make such a decision.
Would it give them (the victims) and their families any comfort to know that we at least think of them in general terms?
Hopefully it never happens again.
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BrianSD_42
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On the civilian side of things ... if you have never seen the documentary "Out of the Clear Blue Sky" I HIGHLY recommend watching it (Netflix) sometime.
I'd say this is probably one of the most powerful documentaries I've ever seen.
It is the story of Cantor Fitzgerald, the firm, the families, the aftermath and the rebuilding of a company with a new mission.
Out of the Clear Blue Sky
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/out_of_the_clear_blue_sky/
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I'd say this is probably one of the most powerful documentaries I've ever seen.
It is the story of Cantor Fitzgerald, the firm, the families, the aftermath and the rebuilding of a company with a new mission.
Out of the Clear Blue Sky
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/out_of_the_clear_blue_sky/
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Ol'Blue
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I will never forget.....
That morning I was pulling out my machine gun from the armory while I was on active duty while in the Marine Corps. My gunny came running up and told us to go to the chow hall aka dining hall for the Air Force guys and gals. It took us a few minutes of his bantering ro really understand what he was saying. So with said machine gun off I went. As I walked into the area were the news was on I could not believe my eyes. I still to this day remember myself saying someone is going to die for this and that same firearm I was holding was going to be the tool in how I delivered it. Little did I know how right I was. I never forgot that feeling even on the most shitty day in the middle or Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times. I promise our fellow Americans did not die in vain. I spent thriteen years remembering those hours. I made many of bad dudes pay the prices for the choices they made in hurting our people. I will never forget.....
Semper Fi
Blue
That morning I was pulling out my machine gun from the armory while I was on active duty while in the Marine Corps. My gunny came running up and told us to go to the chow hall aka dining hall for the Air Force guys and gals. It took us a few minutes of his bantering ro really understand what he was saying. So with said machine gun off I went. As I walked into the area were the news was on I could not believe my eyes. I still to this day remember myself saying someone is going to die for this and that same firearm I was holding was going to be the tool in how I delivered it. Little did I know how right I was. I never forgot that feeling even on the most shitty day in the middle or Iraq and Afghanistan multiple times. I promise our fellow Americans did not die in vain. I spent thriteen years remembering those hours. I made many of bad dudes pay the prices for the choices they made in hurting our people. I will never forget.....
Semper Fi
Blue
