Lifting Question

[jkf2530]

I have a 2001 T4R with a 2.5 suspension lift. I want to get more clearance, and I know body lifts don't do that. Is it possible to get another suspension lift on top of the one I currently have? If this sounds stupid Im sorry haha I am just trying to figure out what the pricing will be. I am aiming for around 4in of lift (give or take depending on price and dependability) and yalls thoughts and opinions are much appreciated.


-Buddy

 

[Swimmerboy2112]

I have a 2001 T4R with a 2.5 suspension lift. I want to get more clearance, and I know body lifts don't do that. Is it possible to get another suspension lift on top of the one I currently have? If this sounds stupid Im sorry haha I am just trying to figure out what the pricing will be. I am aiming for around 4in of lift (give or take depending on price and dependability) and yalls thoughts and opinions are much appreciated.


-Buddy

Stacking lifts is a very bad idea. But if you're looking to lift 4" then why don't you check out the Eibach front coils with Tundra Bilstein 5 setting shocks and 80 Series Land Cruiser coils in the rear, that should give you around a 4" lift and it isn't too expensive.

 

[jkf2530]

Thanks Swimmerboy2112 I will take a look into that


-Buddy

 

[Fishwerks]

I have a 2001 T4R with a 2.5 suspension lift. I want to get more clearance

You get more clearance at the lowest point on the vehicle (rear diff) by putting bigger tires on. That's the only way to get the diff up higher. Are you worried about hitting something else?

 

[Gerdo]

But... A taller suspension lift will increase approach angle, departure angle and breakover angle.

Your best bet is some coilovers, like the ToyTec ones, in front.
For the back, some LC coils out back (either 8 or 9 wrap). They flex great but don't carry weight well. Or if you regularly carry a fair amount of weight, the OME 861 or 851.

 

[jkf2530]

But... A taller suspension lift will increase approach angle, departure angle and breakover angle.

Your best bet is some coilovers, like the ToyTec ones, in front.
For the back, some LC coils out back (either 8 or 9 wrap). They flex great but don't carry weight well. Or if you regularly carry a fair amount of weight, the OME 861 or 851.

It seems to me that the only option to get more clearance is with a new suspension? I was hoping there is a way that I can safely add on to what I currently have already. But if there really isn't another way then it will be obvious on what I have to focus on.

Thanks,
Buddy

 

[TheeMikeB]

This should be required reading before new members are allowed to post.

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/66976-3rd-gen-4runner-lift-information-faqs.html

 

[Semper_Fi]

But... A taller suspension lift will increase approach angle, departure angle and breakover angle.

Your best bet is some coilovers, like the ToyTec ones, in front.
For the back, some LC coils out back (either 8 or 9 wrap). They flex great but don't carry weight well. Or if you regularly carry a fair amount of weight, the OME 861 or 851.

x2 have to agree with him

 

[Bandit Runner]

Add a 1-2" body lift, then get larger tires. That will gain some clearance. What size tires are you running now?

 

[Shanegpoe]

I have the toytec/ Eibach springs with bilstein 5100's in the front, and then LC 80 8 wraps with a stock set of new LC 80 shocks in the rear. I got a total of 4 inches up front, and 4 1/8" in the rear. Definitiely get a differential drop though. My approach angle increased a TON and then with the custom bumper also helped a ton as well

 

[jkf2530]

I have 265/70/R16 right now. I think what I will do is a 2 inch body lift and either the following for tires:
285/75/R16
305/70/R16
255/85/R16

Any recommendations? My 4runner is my daily drive and my off road vehicle. So maybe A/T? Because M/T wear down faster. I think I will keep the same stock rims I have now too. Ill post a picture of what it looks like now. All opinions (not just on tires) are welcomed.

-Buddy

 

[jkf2530]

Here it is

 

[Shanegpoe]

I have 265/70/R16 right now. I think what I will do is a 2 inch body lift and either the following for tires:
285/75/R16
305/70/R16
255/85/R16

Any recommendations? My 4runner is my daily drive and my off road vehicle. So maybe A/T? Because M/T wear down faster. I think I will keep the same stock rims I have now too. Ill post a picture of what it looks like now. All opinions (not just on tires) are welcomed.

-Buddy

If youre looking to actually go wheeling in this a body lift really isnt doing anything exceot raising your center of gravity. You dont gain any additional ground clereance from your axles. Over all youll just raise the body enough to fit a larger tire. with my 4 inch suspension lift I am also adding a 2 inch body lift to be able to fit 35s but as for me I wouldnt run a body lift by itself. Its much cheaper, but it looks much cheaper as well especially for no gained performance.

 

[white_n_slow]

Biggest lift you can get with the stock A arms is about 3". You can get about 4" suspension lift out of the rear if you don't mind the stinkbug look. That is plenty to fit the tires you are trying to fit.

I am a bit morally opposed to body lifts, although they can make things a little easier. Coming from someone who has rolled his truck, here is the rule of thumb that I like to encourage people to follow: lift only enough to clear the tires size you want. Lower center of gravity will make you more stable on the trails and on the highway. Then just cover up all the parts you don't want to scrape on the ground with skidplates

 

[Shanegpoe]

Biggest lift you can get with the stock A arms is about 3".

I was under the same impression, but from my measurments before and after lift I received exactly 4 inches of lift in the front using toytech eibach springs and bilstein 5100s

 

[jkf2530]

I did some searching on some build threads of other people with 3in and 33's and I think ill do that. I won't bother to save money for a body lift cause that is just $200 that could allow me to get tires sooner. Any opinion on size?

 

[Shanegpoe]

I did some searching on some build threads of other people with 3in and 33's and I think ill do that. I won't bother to save money for a body lift cause that is just $200 that could allow me to get tires sooner. Any opinion on size?

Size of lift or tires?

 

[ShooterMcGavin]

If youre looking to actually go wheeling in this a body lift really isnt doing anything exceot raising your center of gravity. You dont gain any additional ground clereance from your axles. Over all youll just raise the body enough to fit a larger tire. with my 4 inch suspension lift I am also adding a 2 inch body lift to be able to fit 35s but as for me I wouldnt run a body lift by itself. Its much cheaper, but it looks much cheaper as well especially for no gained performance.

A BL and larger tires will increase your ground clearance though. For some tire sizes, you need a BL to retain full suspension travel without rubbing.

I don't understand why a SL and bigger tires is so highly recommended... When fully compressed, the rubbing will be just as bad as the stock suspension height. Yes, rubbing will be less during everyday driving.

ETA: True, a SL is always cooler than a BL

 

[jkf2530]

Size of lift or tires?

Tires

 

[Shanegpoe]

Tires

if you're planning on keeping it a daily driver, only lifting it 3 inches, and want to save a little bit of money on tires I'd go with 33s or 285/75/16. That is plenty of tire to have fun on the trail with.