LT275s and stock Trail Editions?

[36bound]

Guys,
On May 18th I am scheduled to take delivery of a new Trail Edition. Upon leaving the dealer my first stop is going to be to a nearby tire retailer to swap out my TE's stock Dunlop AT20s for new rubber. I had my mind made up on Firestone Destination AT's. I was originally thinking of switching from a stock P-metric tire to an LT tire of the same size, but in load range C (I spend a good amount of time remote camping with my wife and hunting dogs). Alternatively, I have loosely been considering moving up a tad in size to an LT275/70R17 (C load range).
Now I'm being told that getting the LT265 in load range C isn't likely to occur because of a back order on that specific size.
This leaves me in a position of choosing between the P-metric 265 or the LT275 in load C. I have no use for a load E rated tire- and the weight and stiffness associated with that load rating.
Although I have not decided yet, I'm leaning toward the LT275/70R17 C Destination AT.
I know how to "read" a tire. I know what the specs say. What I'm asking for is some "real world" feedback as to whether or not the LT275s will fit my Trail Edition without rubbing. I will not be putting a lift or wheel spacers on my TE.
Through pm I've spoke to one 4R forum member who has indicated that he has not had a rubbing issue with his LT275/70R17 Destination ATs. I'd appreciate hearing from some other 5th gen 4R owners who are running LT/275/75R17s on their STOCk 4R.
Thanks in advance for sharing your valued experience.
Best regards,
36bound in MI

 

[Jtraskell]

36, I think it will all depend on where your castor is set now. I have 285.s, no rubbing initially, but when I moved the castor closer to 4.0 for steering purposes, I got minor rubbing at full lock in reverse only. Easy fix. I am pretty sure you will be fine from the get go. But if you do get some minor rubbing, do the search here, many "easy" ways to fix. Be Safe.

 

[TOPDECK]

I am running 285's at stock height and only had to do the liner move mod (5 minutes) to stop the rubbing. I was only rubbing at full lock in reverse.

That being said, I do not believe you will have many choices out there for a 275/75/17. 275/70/17 and 285/70/17 are much more common. With a 275/70 you may not rub at all depending on your castor settings. Any tire shop can fit test them for you if you are unsure.

 

[jspagna1]

No personal experience,but I have heard of noone having any issues with going with the 275/75/17 tires on their 4Runners. When the time comes, I will be putting that size on my 11 SR5.

 

[PracticalFJ]

no issues wit my 275 BFG A/T KO"ssssssss

 

[Blacksunshyne]

I am running the 275 BFG A/Ts, no problem at all on the stock Trail.

 

[1engineer]

You might want to clarify which size. Reading your post you talk about 275/70 and then at the end you talk about 275/75. Might help with the answers.

 

[36bound]

aaah, good catch 1engineer. My op was submitted by iphone and makes proofreading a pain. To be clear though, my question pertains to LT275/70R17s. Will upsizing to an LT275/70R17 on a stock 5th gen 4R (and more specifically a TE with KDSS) result in any rubbing issues? I appreciate that the "increase" in diameter or section width is probably going to be less than 1/2", depending. But still, it never hurts to ask for "real world" experiences.

Thanks to those who have shared their experience thus far. If anyone else with 275/70R17s cares to share their experience, I'd sure appreciate it.

Regards,

36bound

 

[smilycook]

Now I'm being told that getting the LT265 in load range C isn't likely to occur because of a back order on that specific size.

I just put BFG AT LT265/70R17 load range C on my 4runner from Costco. They took two days to get them in. Not sure if you have Costco, but you might try the BFG instead.

 

[Ryan1975]

Guys,
On May 18th I am scheduled to take delivery of a new Trail Edition.
36bound in MI

I know nothing about tires, but I am registering my new truck in Michigan. Do you know how much you paid in taxes and registration? I need to set aside money for that.

 

[FatDave]

Guys,
On May 18th I am scheduled to take delivery of a new Trail Edition. Upon leaving the dealer my first stop is going to be to a nearby tire retailer to swap out my TE's stock Dunlop AT20s for new rubber. I had my mind made up on Firestone Destination AT's. I was originally thinking of switching from a stock P-metric tire to an LT tire of the same size, but in load range C (I spend a good amount of time remote camping with my wife and hunting dogs). Alternatively, I have loosely been considering moving up a tad in size to an LT275/70R17 (C load range).
Now I'm being told that getting the LT265 in load range C isn't likely to occur because of a back order on that specific size.
This leaves me in a position of choosing between the P-metric 265 or the LT275 in load C. I have no use for a load E rated tire- and the weight and stiffness associated with that load rating.
Although I have not decided yet, I'm leaning toward the LT275/70R17 C Destination AT.
I know how to "read" a tire. I know what the specs say. What I'm asking for is some "real world" feedback as to whether or not the LT275s will fit my Trail Edition without rubbing. I will not be putting a lift or wheel spacers on my TE.
Through pm I've spoke to one 4R forum member who has indicated that he has not had a rubbing issue with his LT275/70R17 Destination ATs. I'd appreciate hearing from some other 5th gen 4R owners who are running LT/275/75R17s on their STOCk 4R.
Thanks in advance for sharing your valued experience.
Best regards,
36bound in MI

36,

If you're going to go with an oversized tire, you might want to consider getting 5, and replacing the factory spare. An odd-sized spare can change vehicle handling characteristics, especially at high speeds.

Also, selling the factory shoes on craigslist can get you more than the tire dealer will offer. More hassle though.

Best,

 

[36bound]

I know nothing about tires, but I am registering my new truck in Michigan. Do you know how much you paid in taxes and registration? I need to set aside money for that.

Hi Ryan,

Sales tax in Michigan is 6 percent. I took a look at my paperwork last night and to transfer plates (the registration fee) the State charges $8; There is also a $15 title fee. My dealer also charged a $190 "documentation" fee, which you may or may not be able to get your dealer to wave. Incidentally, I was able to order my T4R TE for invoice. I hope this information helps.

And hey, Ryan, thank you for your service. I never take our freedom for granted.

 

[36bound]

36,

If you're going to go with an oversized tire, you might want to consider getting 5, and replacing the factory spare. An odd-sized spare can change vehicle handling characteristics, especially at high speeds.

Also, selling the factory shoes on craigslist can get you more than the tire dealer will offer. More hassle though.

Best,

Hi Dave,

Great minds think alike. I've already ordered a matching spare wheel for my TE to accommodate five matching tires. I like to do a five tire rotation to extend the life of my tires, as well as to create an opportunity to visually inspect my spare every 5,000 miles.

For the five Dunlop AT20s that came with my TE, I have been offered $500 by a Firestone retailer; $500 by Discount tire, and $525 by Belle Tire, respectively toward a swap on upgraded tires.

I'm still wrestling with the tire selection (size, make model) thing though. I have until mid next week to decide. One thing is for certain; on the way home from my dealer I will be stopping for a tire upgrade.

 

[Ryan1975]

Hi Ryan,

Sales tax in Michigan is 6 percent. I took a look at my paperwork last night and to transfer plates (the registration fee) the State charges $8; There is also a $15 title fee. My dealer also charged a $190 "documentation" fee, which you may or may not be able to get your dealer to wave. Incidentally, I was able to order my T4R TE for invoice. I hope this information helps.

And hey, Ryan, thank you for your service. I never take our freedom for granted.

thanks! I'll set aside about $2500 and that should cover it.

I'll pick up my truck in a few weeks and will be towing the Corvette through lower michigan the first or second weekend of June. I'll spend nearly the entire month of July in the UP.

 

[Davemon]

Hi Dave,

Great minds think alike. I've already ordered a matching spare wheel for my TE to accommodate five matching tires. I like to do a five tire rotation to extend the life of my tires, as well as to create an opportunity to visually inspect my spare every 5,000 miles.

For the five Dunlop AT20s that came with my TE, I have been offered $500 by a Firestone retailer; $500 by Discount tire, and $525 by Belle Tire, respectively toward a swap on upgraded tires.

I'm still wrestling with the tire selection (size, make model) thing though. I have until mid next week to decide. One thing is for certain; on the way home from my dealer I will be stopping for a tire upgrade.

36,
Just to make your decision even easier:biggrin2:, consider the Cooper A/T3 in 275. Not as easy to track down, but I think Sears carries Cooper if I'm not mistaken. I've been looking hard at 275 sizes, and the top 3 (from all the reviews I've read) are the Destinations, BFG's, and the Coopers. Good luck with your decision.