Magnuson Supercharger for 2010-Present & 2010-2014 FJ

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UPDATE
All of those who were chosen were notified of being chosen and the process is underway. Some have already received/picked up their kits and some will be sent soon. I will continue to post here with updated information on my experience and those that have been chosen, who are on here, may utilize it as well or create their own. I want to say congrats to those that were picked and I can't wait to see them installed and the experiences you have during that initial drive. For those that want to see the kit in person, the truck will be at the Lucas Oil Off Road Expo in Pomona, CA this weekend, Sep 30 and Oct 1, at the Magnuson Superchargers booth. Come say hello, the show is a great time.


**UPDATE**
It has just been announced as of a few minutes ago, that the opportunity to get your email in to receive the application is closing soon. If you haven't signed up yet, please do. Once it is closed, applications will be getting sent out for all to fill out for their chance to be chosen. More information regarding the kit is going to be coming out over the next few days. I know that is kit is overdue and not much info has been released but please understand that this kit has been a long time coming and with TRD no longer around, it needed to get refreshed. I do not work for Magnuson, I only am helping out with getting the word out and get y'all as much info as possible as soon as possible. Numbers and pricing very soon. The test vehicle (2017 SR5) is back on the dyno to finalize. The XX amount of units for the pilot program are almost complete. This is the thread with the direct information from the source and I was asked to share it with y'all. Hope you all have a great night. Feel free to follow @magnusonsuperchargers oage on IG or FB for up to date info or to my page [MENTION=4159]travis[/MENTION]hess_ for all info that is shared on their page will go up on mine.

Good Evening All,

I am starting this thread to relay and all information for the supercharger system for the 2010-Present 4Runner and the 2010-2014 FJ Cruiser from Magnuson Superchargers. They are currently taking in submissions for their Pilot program. If you haven't submitted your email yet, please go to this link and do so. Link: Magnuson News
After submitting your email, stand by for the application to be sent your way to submit all info regarding your rig and to possibly be selected as a member of the very limited run of systems for the pilot program. They will also be specially discounted for those selected. I am here to answer any questions with all info that I currently have. HP/TQ numbers will be coming soon. Price will follow soon after. Please be patient with the applications being sent out and for the other information to flow through.

-Travis H.
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Installed in Magnuson Prototype Vehicle

More images to come

 

[graciedad04]

That link just takes you to a sign up for emails from Magnusson. Where can we sign up and input our rig info for beta testing?

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[5ontheFloor]

Ooh...nice
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[jbjones85]

I have been following this on instagram and an excited to finally see something come to market. Just crossing my fingers that the numbers look good and I don't need to sell my left leg to afford it

 

[THESS]

That link just takes you to a sign up for emails from Magnusson. Where can we sign up and input our rig info for beta testing?

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As instructions stated above, the link brings you to the newsletter sign up. You submit your email for them to send you the application. Once you receive and submit said application, you will be entered into the pilot program group. Magnuson will pick a very limited amount of 4Runner and FJ owners to receive the first XX amount prior to full release. ALso stated above, be patient for the application, it will be sent when Magnuson is ready. But I can say that that moment is sooner than you think

 

[THESS]

Ooh...nice
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Dont quite know what that means haha

 

[THESS]

I have been following this on instagram and an excited to finally see something come to market. Just crossing my fingers that the numbers look good and I don't need to sell my left leg to afford it

The numbers are good and the price will be too. You get exactly what you pay for. Night and day difference in vehicle response.

 

[Khjphoto]

What is the impact of the Toyota warranty?

 

[4Running303]

Sure would be nice to choose some of us that provided scanned vehicle data at FJ Summit this year...hint hint...me..."cough cough"...me again!
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[THESS]

Sure would be nice to choose some of us that provided scanned vehicle data at FJ Summit this year...hint hint...me..."cough cough"...me again!
:thumb::wave::trophy:

A few were scanned while up there and that is awesome you got yours scanned. We shall see what happens:thumb: It is a very limited amount but they will be picking a mixture of years mentioned above between the 4R and FJ. Fingers crossed

 

[THESS]

What is the impact of the Toyota warranty?

That is a discussion to be had with your local dealership. Since this isnt a TRD product this go around I cant 100% answer that. I have seen some delaerships maintain warranty with aftermarket parts if installed by them. Maybe a route to go? Im sure we will get more info once full release to public begins. I wouldnt be surprised if dealerships start putting them in their parts floor. Ya never know.
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[5ontheFloor]

Ooh...nice
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Dont quite know what that means haha

It's still early I'm just a general lurker and instigator

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[graciedad04]

As instructions stated above, the link brings you to the newsletter sign up. You submit your email for them to send you the application. Once you receive and submit said application, you will be entered into the pilot program group. Magnuson will pick a very limited amount of 4Runner and FJ owners to receive the first XX amount prior to full release. ALso stated above, be patient for the application, it will be sent when Magnuson is ready. But I can say that that moment is sooner than you think

Awesome thanks Thess!

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[Jetboy]

Boost level?

What about fuel - What tuning is done? I mean more than "we flash your ECU" - what are you actually doing to the fuel map, did you break the encryption or get access from Toyota? Is there already an OEM fuel map for boost you just access or did you re-write it? Is it closed loop dynamic learning still? What kind of AFR are you seeing at half and full throttle?

Does the tune increase redline?

When you get hp numbers - 2500rpm hp is far more important than 6,000 rpm hp. Can you get an accurate measurement at say 1500 and 2500 rpms?

Does the tune change throttle input and/or shift points?

Does it play nice with crawl control?

In 4lo the throttle map changes and the idle rpm in gear goes up - does this still play nice for rock crawling with those changes?

It looks like it uses an auxiliary radiator for the intercooler rather than the OEM cooling system. Is that correct? If so where does the intercooler radiator live? Specifically does it interfere with our winches (in front of the lower center of the radiator) or have an issue with air flow for folks with winches? Same question for transmission coolers. Basically - where do you mount the radiator and how is it mounted?
For reference - this is where many/most winches live:

Just a few starter questions. Thanks!

 

[wfo9]

As instructions stated above, the link brings you to the newsletter sign up. You submit your email for them to send you the application. Once you receive and submit said application, you will be entered into the pilot program group. Magnuson will pick a very limited amount of 4Runner and FJ owners to receive the first XX amount prior to full release. ALso stated above, be patient for the application, it will be sent when Magnuson is ready. But I can say that that moment is sooner than you think

A bit of confusion here. Many of us have signed up for the Mag news letter a long time ago.. Are they planning to send the application to all newsletter subscribers?

 

[Jetboy]

Also - you should consider dyno with the OEM crossover pipe and with an aftermarket one. The OEM crossover is pretty restrictive. What you see underneath in the flattened pipe is only the outer pipe - there's another one inside of that that's smaller diameter. So one bank is a bit more restricted than the other.

I'm really interested in this if it checks all the boxes. I was definitely a naysayer before I hear reports of it being a lot more powerful than the single VVTI version. If it's actually 350+hp at 5k rpms, i'm intrigued. As of now the best power option is a 2010 4cyl with a turbo. They reliably make 230rwhp under 5k rpms. I hope this gives an option to beat that.

 

[wfo9]

Boost level?

What about fuel - What tuning is done? I mean more than "we flash your ECU" - what are you actually doing to the fuel map, did you break the encryption or get access from Toyota? Is there already an OEM fuel map for boost you just access or did you re-write it? Is it closed loop dynamic learning still? What kind of AFR are you seeing at half and full throttle?

Does the tune increase redline?

When you get hp numbers - 2500rpm hp is far more important than 6,000 rpm hp. Can you get an accurate measurement at say 1500 and 2500 rpms?

Does the tune change throttle input and/or shift points?

Does it play nice with crawl control?

In 4lo the throttle map changes and the idle rpm in gear goes up - does this still play nice for rock crawling with those changes?

It looks like it uses an auxiliary radiator for the intercooler rather than the OEM cooling system. Is that correct? If so where does the intercooler radiator live? Specifically does it interfere with our winches (in front of the lower center of the radiator) or have an issue with air flow for folks with winches? Same question for transmission coolers. Basically - where do you mount the radiator and how is it mounted?
For reference - this is where many/most winches live:

Just a few starter questions. Thanks!

I'll give you my answers, which are in no way verified... but I'm pretty confident they are accurate. LOL Would be nice to hear from Mag though....

Boost level - 5-6psi.

Fuel- They got access to the ECU. Changes are made for the larger injectors and possibly some other tweaks for SD and MAF readings. The MAF is still in charge and most likely can read enough air for the peak power levels. Doubt you will get more details than this from anyone... The ECUs have been broken/accessed in some way. There are actually a few tuners out there who can dyno tune these trucks now. I'm not sure what tools they are using.. but thing are out there and in a few peoples hands. Plenty of tuned tundras... and they are starting to do FJs and 4Rs... Fuel pump is still in question, I'm wondering if they include a higher volume pump or a booster.. or if the stock pump has enough flow.

Red line stays the same for sure.

Won't get an accurate measurement on low end RPM hp/tq without pulling the motor and putting it on an engine dyno or running a manual transmission. Finding a 2010+ FJ with a manual and AWD would be the best option (if they made those after 2010).

I imagine there were some throttle mapping and slight tweaks to the trans tuning. This is common practice on the Tundras.

I can't imagine any impact on crawl control.

The heat exchanger is shown in the other supercharger thread. It looks like it is small enough and up high enough to work with any bumper or winch... It sits up high behind the center bracket.

 

[Jetboy]

The problem is none of the tunes actually work - I've yet to see any repeatable dyno gains that are outside the margin of error. The Orange Virus tune had zero bump IIRC. The BD one is similar. Maybe a few hp on 91, but that's probably just the oem tune. Accessing the CAN signal is a far cry from rewriting the algorithm - if you could even figure out where in the memory you'd write it to and how the indexing of the memory is organized. There's a gap there that no one has solved to my knowledge.

 

[wfo9]

The problem is none of the tunes actually work - I've yet to see any repeatable dyno gains that are outside the margin of error. The Orange Virus tune had zero bump IIRC. The BD one is similar. Maybe a few hp on 91, but that's probably just the oem tune. Accessing the CAN signal is a far cry from rewriting the algorithm - if you could even figure out where in the memory you'd write it to and how the indexing of the memory is organized. There's a gap there that no one has solved to my knowledge.

Not sure what you are referring to. No need to rewrite the OS (or algorithm that you are referring to it) .... just the ability to modify the reference tables. They have the info and so do a few others. Not sure how they got it and the ability to decrypt.. but it is something pretty recent. The tunes seem to work.. but you can't squeeze much more out of a NA motor with no other modifications. There is some power lurking.. but not something that will jump out at you as huge gains... Just look at the magnuson Tundra... It works fine and makes over 500 hp....


I've tuned a lot of cars in the past.. via mapped out ECUs... and it's honestly not that complex for lower HP scenarios where the MAF can still work. It gets tricky and time consuming as hell when doing pure speed density.. but I really doubt that is necessary here. You get there quickly over 800hp or so typically, but 350-500 is all doable by OEM electronics now. The MAF readings just work as long as you have enough injector....

If you want to talk to someone who is able to dyno tune current Toyota stuff contact these guys... https://daptuning.com/

They don't have any mail order tunes yet, but are offering local dyno tunes in Dallas and will eventually offer a library of mail order once they have enough hands on library. Not sure where they got their stuff... but its clearly out there as I have seen a few popping up stating they now have the ability.