Need advice on body work/ rust removal

MN4runnerman said:
If you buy a paint matching quarter panel you still have to cut to fit and you'd sand down the areas to weld the new panel to the body. You're still gonna end up painting something. Rockers not so much you can get away with a paint matching rattle can down there but on a quarter panel it wouldn't look good. At my work we use Cromax paint and it comes ready to spray. It blends itself and if done right it's always within 1% of a match. It's not that hard compared to other paints.
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Any experience with the bushwacker cutouts?? I was gonna get flares anyway and if I'm correct it looks like I might get away with just removing the rusted metal around the wheel well and slapping these on. Since they are designed for clearance it's what they want you to do anyway?? https://www.summitracing.com/parts/..._-bushwacker&gclid=CKiD2tTflNICFUxXDQod674LHg
 
popsmckracken said:
Any experience with the bushwacker cutouts?? I was gonna get flares anyway and if I'm correct it looks like I might get away with just removing the rusted metal around the wheel well and slapping these on. Since they are designed for clearance it's what they want you to do anyway?? https://www.summitracing.com/parts/..._-bushwacker&gclid=CKiD2tTflNICFUxXDQod674LHg
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I'm gonna buy those in a couple months cuz I'm in the same boat as you. I don't think you have to cut sheet metal to mount. Probably just drill some holes and put mounting clips in them.
 
popsmckracken said:
Here's a question, after all this is said and done why wouldn't I just buy a rear quarter panel that's already got matching paint? I know I'd still have to do the rocker but it seems to me after welding, grinding, plastic, etc it would make more sense??
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Thats why I said to get a doner truck, a quarter panel needs to be cut & welded. Not easy like a front fender.
 
popsmckracken said:
You da man. Much thanks When you say the "pillar" what exactly are you referring to?
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The pillar that separates the front and the back door. the rear door hinges on it. In my case I will have to notch the new rocker around that due to the fact that my rust is up in the area the door sits in as shown in my picture. I am going to cut it all in and spot weld it so my body guy can finish it so it will look the best it can. I will do the best I can to "step by step" the process but when it comes to rocker panels, each situation is different in the fact that you may not need the whole rocker... you just may replace a section or 2 or just the bottom exterior section.
 
Damn. I can guarantee you that the reason why its rusting around the rear fender area. Its because water gets in between the two metals where the fender flares screw into and where the bolt holds the rear seat belt!. Anyways..... thats a ***** area to fix. Because its such a big piece, and it has a contour, and bend and whole nine yards, not to forget the gas tank area! Pull back the rear inside plastic trims. And looks inside. Most likely rust inside to!

Id buy a donor truck and cut out parts! or just take a loss and move on!

i feel your pain
 
Seems like extensive work. Not to seem insensitive, but there are plenty of 4r out there that don't have rust and are in good shape. I would sell it and pick up another!
 
jkfuel said:
Seems like extensive work. Not to seem insensitive, but there are plenty of 4r out there that don't have rust and are in good shape. I would sell it and pick up another!
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LOL, you guys get scared easy don't ya? I just received a new rocker panel and dog leg. The frame on this one is just fine. It's some work but it's limited to an area where some repair work was done improperly a few years back.
 
kolelt said:
Damn. I can guarantee you that the reason why its rusting around the rear fender area. Its because water gets in between the two metals where the fender flares screw into and where the bolt holds the rear seat belt!. Anyways..... thats a ***** area to fix. Because its such a big piece, and it has a contour, and bend and whole nine yards, not to forget the gas tank area! Pull back the rear inside plastic trims. And looks inside. Most likely rust inside to!

Id buy a donor truck and cut out parts! or just take a loss and move on!

i feel your pain
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It can rust regardless of the flares. They come from the factory with some weird square insert that the screws go into in the wheel well. If the black flares were installed, they would get drilled out for a thicker screw. With that said I think those weird square inserts collect moisture and salt. I see flareless 4Runners with rust too. It's not really a design flaw TBH. This type of rust only started becoming common on 3rd gens about 3 years ago. Every other competing vehicle started showing this kind of rust back in like 2009.
 
T4R2014 said:
It can rust regardless of the flares. They come from the factory with some weird square insert that the screws go into in the wheel well. If the black flares were installed, they would get drilled out for a thicker screw. With that said I think those weird square inserts collect moisture and salt. I see flareless 4Runners with rust too. It's not really a design flaw TBH. This type of rust only started becoming common on 3rd gens about 3 years ago. Every other competing vehicle started showing this kind of rust back in like 2009.
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The other side if this vehicle is flawless, no rust at all. This 4 runner has been in the family since it came of the lot so I owe her some payback for lasting this long. I've decided to make her into a money pit and pimp her as best I can. Just put a new Borla catback on today. I'm having fun with it, what the hell, right?
 
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