Need some links for getting my 285s to fit at stock height

cj80cruiser

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I just sold my stock tires to a guy that's coming to pick them up on Friday but the problem is that the only set of tires I have to put on is my 285s that I have waiting for my lift. I'm stock height right now so I need to do some BFH'n. I'm not looking to cut anything so if I can't take care of it with a BFH then I don't want to do it. Does anybody know of a few links to get me going on exactly where the rubbing areas are? I can't seem to find the right words to use for searching. Your help would be greatly apprecitated.
 
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Only place I can think of is the inner wheel well at the back where it goes over the pinch weld. Other then that look for the shiny spots and apply BFH to those locations.
 
I'm going to remove my running boards today because it looks as though that might be a common place as well. I'm not sure what I'm going to do with my front bumper as of yet since it looks as though that might be another problem area. I don't want to cut it since I want to sell it to someone that needs it...hate to waste a good part.
 
Well I am running 285's and wheel pretty hard. Have never had the tires hit the bumper even at full stuff. It does come close though, but so far no issues and have not heard from anyone else running them with it hitting front bumper. Running board removal is a good play and if you have the limited the mud flaps in the back would also be a good thing to remove.
 
Yes I read your first post. I would not advise running them at stock height at all, however since you mentioned it is your only option at this point I am trying to offer the advice you seek. That is why I mentioned when I am at full stuff meaning suspension fully compressed, I have not rubbed on my front bumper. The other issue you may encounter is the inside of the sidewall rubbing on your UCA. This is why Sonoran Steel sells shaved factory UCA's.
 
Ok, i was checking because I saw your sig had All-Pro front coils and UCA and thought you were referring to now with those additions. Looks like I may have to get some wheel spacers up front and go ahead and purchase my lift before I sell these 265's. That the advice you would give?
 
Well I wouldnt ignore a buyer for your current tires. I think you will be able to live with 1/4 inch spacers and the 285's. In a perfect world you would have lift and everything else in place first before switching tires.

Just a few things to think about: How long will it take you to get the lift? Will you have a buyer for your current tires at that time? Will the sale of your current tires help you purchase your lift quicker? You might have some other people chime in but just wanted to give you food for thought.
 
This is how I sit right now.
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I took off the plastic trim on the front bumper with the fender flare on that section and the running boards. I've got some 1/4" wheel spacers that I'm gona use to aid in my 285 installation.

I've looked all in my wheel well but can't see anthing that looks like it will hit now. Anybody think of something I'm over looking?
 

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I don't wanna be a drag here but have you ever replaced your stock coils? If not they are probably sagging which isn't going to help anything. Secondly, in order to run a 285 you need to be running at least 2" of lift if you just want to run them on road. I've never tried to run 285's at stock height but don't you think if it could be done w/o substantial cutting people would be doing it already? I would say hold off on selling your tires till your lifted...but if you can get it done, my hats off to you!
 
I don't wanna be a drag here but have you ever replaced your stock coils? If not they are probably sagging which isn't going to help anything. Secondly, in order to run a 285 you need to be running at least 2" of lift if you just want to run them on road. I've never tried to run 285's at stock height but don't you think if it could be done w/o substantial cutting people would be doing it already? I would say hold off on selling your tires till your lifted...but if you can get it done, my hats off to you!

Yeah, I no doubt should have some sag since I seriously doubt the PO replaced any of that. I've only had the truck for a week now. I'm just hoping to make it a few days with 285s and just going back and forth to work. My lift is on its way and it will be installed next week.

There is a link somewhere that you can run 35's at stock height but you have to do some trimming, grinding, bending, beating, cutting, etc...Granted that I don't want to do all that but the beating with a BFH and grinding a little off here and there isn't a problem for me to fit 285s. I just need to know where as I can't see any real obstacles at the moment besides what I've already taken off.
 
I've never tried to run 285's at stock height but don't you think if it could be done w/o substantial cutting people would be doing it already? I would say hold off on selling your tires till your lifted...but if you can get it done, my hats off to you!

x2... If you can make 285s fit I think you'd be the first. Therefore, like Mauzer said, I'd wait to sell the 265 tires.
 
Yeah, I no doubt should have some sag since I seriously doubt the PO replaced any of that. I've only had the truck for a week now. I'm just hoping to make it a few days with 285s and just going back and forth to work. My lift is on its way and it will be installed next week.

There is a link somewhere that you can run 35's at stock height but you have to do some trimming, grinding, bending, beating, cutting, etc...Granted that I don't want to do all that but the beating with a BFH and grinding a little off here and there isn't a problem for me to fit 285s. I just need to know where as I can't see any real obstacles at the moment besides what I've already taken off.
This is the article your talking about: Clearance for 35-inch Tires on a Tacoma at ANY Lift Height | Trails Less Traveled

And what he is doing is basically tubbing the fenders, if your going to tub the fenders then i think you could fit the 285's...but if thats the case you got a LOT more cutting to do!
 
I have a feeling this is going to confuse some, but... Full compression is full compression, regardless of lift or not. The difference is, with a lift when you're on a hard trail you might only fully compress and rub once or twice all day long. With no lift, you're closer to full compression at rest so a small bump in the road may fully compress the suspension. In other words, with a 3" sus lift, your struts are always 3" farther away from full compression so it takes a bigger obstacle to push it all the way up there and make it rub, but where the tire and strut top out at is still the same spot - lift or no lift.

Even with a 3" sus lift and fender trimming, 285s are still going to rub at full compression especially when the steering is turned to one side (full lock). That's why you see so many of us (myself included) running small body lifts on top of our sus lifts. BLs are the only real way (short of tubbing your fenders) to get rid of the rubbing at full compression.

I think you'll be fine if you do the same amount of trimming we have all done and just take it easy on the speed bumps until you get the lift.
 
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I am not running a BL on mine and I rarely rub. Brian yes I know I was making a lot of noise last time..... That is becasue the plastic inner fender got snagged and a flap was hanging out in constant contact. I still have not trimmed anything or even used a BFH to beat down my pinch weld.

Reason-Full compression is same with or with out lift. We apply longer spring or pressure on spring to lift. The pivot points on our A-arms don't change and the bump stops are same location as well. My bumps get used and I have shiny clean spots from contact on my arms.

Like Brian said take it easy the next couple days and you should be okay. It is not recommended to run this size tire stock, however a couple of days shouldn't hurt.
 
Heres some pics

I only rub slightly for ON ROAD turning which will be quickly remedied with my BFH later on today, easy peasey. Here's the pics and where it rubs. No wheel spacers of any type needed even at fool drop as tested on the lift.

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That is the only place I rub also. Glad it is working out for you. That is the piece of inner fender lining on mine that got pulled out and torn into a flap. Was making a sound like a playing card clothes pinned to frame of bicycle into the spokes of tire to make that motor sound..lol Just trim the fender lining along the seem and then pound down the pinch weld right below it and you will be fine.
 
That is the only place I rub also. Glad it is working out for you. That is the piece of inner fender lining on mine that got pulled out and torn into a flap. Was making a sound like a playing card clothes pinned to frame of bicycle into the spokes of tire to make that motor sound..lol Just trim the fender lining along the seem and then pound down the pinch weld right below it and you will be fine.

I may need an alignment....seems that I can make left turns easier than right, as I get less rub turning left. All in all I could drive around like this without beating that weld in but I'm gona go ahead and do it anyway.
 

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