Lugnuts001
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$5,500
Needs comments on a 1999 SR5 V6 4x4 manual (with pics)
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JohnsD90
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hmm, where is the listing, Fonerunner may be interested.
Lugnuts001
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Oh I thought you were going to say if it was a good deal or not. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I was 100% decided against buying it.
JohnsD90
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Well $5500 for a manual with under 100k and a 99 is a good buy, you will probably not find a non rusty one for that low.
theizzardking
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i see that price as about right all things considered, you should get it for a bit cheaper then that maybe 5k, 4.5K would be best and a good deal. but you have to consider you can pick a auto one with 80K on it for around 6-7K and auto's usually cost more, even though i don;t know that the stick market is like on these, i know hard to come by and you guys like them but the average joe just out looking for a truck to drive would typically pay more for an automatic, i'll let john make a comment on what the price difference between a stick and auto is on the 3rd gens.
what else have been seeing round for that price? you really need to be basing this off of what things are like around you and in your area, and keep in mind rust isn't a big issue where your at now so buying a rusty one should give you some pretty good leverage.
i think you already know what you need to do as you already said what the balance is, spending time fixing it or spending time trying to find another so your really going to have to decide on that as it stands though the price is a fraction to high imo but still in the ball park.
what else have been seeing round for that price? you really need to be basing this off of what things are like around you and in your area, and keep in mind rust isn't a big issue where your at now so buying a rusty one should give you some pretty good leverage.
i think you already know what you need to do as you already said what the balance is, spending time fixing it or spending time trying to find another so your really going to have to decide on that as it stands though the price is a fraction to high imo but still in the ball park.
theizzardking
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how much did you get yours for? or who was it that has a rusty runner they picked up for 4500 a month or 2 ago?
Lugnuts001
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Definitely not, but I can't find a non-rusty one like that period, which is why I'm not 100% decided. You said that your rust was slightly worse - is it just the undercarriage components (suspension, axles, etc.) or did it spread to the frame and body too?
theizzardking
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how much did you get yours for? or who was it that has a rusty runner they picked up for 4500 a month or 2 ago?
and i agree your not going to find one that's not got something wrong with for that price.
JohnsD90
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Besides the chrome bumpers there is no body rust (Thank God, knock on wood), I paid $1850 off auction for mine with 144k miles, needed a few parts replaced, and that costed me about $300 total. The frame is surface rust only, and the axle looks about the same as yours although my welds aren't as rusty as those. That is a good price for what you are getting, i say offer him $5k, cause you gotta remember that there is only 92k miles on it so you cant go lower, but if he wont budge be like well the timing belt is $600 to do and to clear all this rust will be another couple hundred (not if you do it yourself though).
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004Gunner
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Get over the rust issue and look at the much more important issues. The owner does not know if the timing belt has been replaced?! The rear axle seal is leaking with no thought of repair? Btw that seal has been leaking badly for a while considering the entire backing plate is coated and caked. And there is a CEL that the owner claims is an O2 sensor? It's always the O2 sensor when someone goes to sell a vehicle. Without seeing the CEL code yourself, don't believe it's an O2 code.
I don't think the rust is bad at all considering it's age. The obvious neglect of things that should be repaired and the lack of knowledge on service records is a much bigger issue imho. No go.
I don't think the rust is bad at all considering it's age. The obvious neglect of things that should be repaired and the lack of knowledge on service records is a much bigger issue imho. No go.
Lugnuts001
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I saw your pics, the body and paint look pretty good, and it's a 5 speed too. You got a good deal!
The current owner has only had it since 07 and he hasn't changed it so it probably hasn't been changed. There's no sticker on the timing cover. From what I've read, a lot of people have gone beyond the recommended 90K. And not all but most say that it's non-interference. This would be a ~$600 item.
I've read that people go a few thousand miles with leaking rear axle seals even beyond 100K, so I'm hoping that this one is still ok. He claims there aren't any odd noises. But this could be a $1,000+ fix.
You're right, something else might be causing the 02 sensor to go bad. I'm waiting to hear back on what the code is. No clue how much it will cost.
So you're right, these are real issues. But I should be able to use them to negotiate the price.
brian2sun
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They are non-interference motors so you aren't going to bend any valves, but you should do it because the water pump needs replacement too and although I'm sure you'll be ok for a few thousand more miles, the water pumps don't always just outright fail, they can also just wear down and start providing inadequate cooling. Maybe not enough to overheat, but maybe so.
A leaking rear axle seal is very common and it's very rare that it has gone so far that it's a $1000 job. I let mine go for almost 2 years and had no problems when I replaced it. I got it fixed and replaced the rear brakes on that side (because they were ruined from the grease) and it was around $300. Easy job to do yourself IMO, but I had no indoor area to work and there was snow on the ground in the middle of winter so I paid a shop to do it.
The issue that would concern me the most is the O2 sensor in question. 1st, there is no code that I know of that precisely pinpoints the O2. P0420 is usually the code associated with them failing, but it could also mean catalytic converter failure as well as a few other issues. I would not expect that vehicle to pass smog (if you have that in your state). I would get a guarantee that it will pass if it's an issue, or demand that the owner replaces the O2 before you buy it and prove that it was just the sensor. My $.02
Lugnuts001
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There is no emissions testing in FL, but I do like breathing clean air and would maintain the exhaust system. I have a bad feeling the catalytic converters are what's causing the CEL, and from what I read, it can cost over $2,000 for OEM replacements. Doing a quick search, I don't think cats that have gone bad for an extended time can cause engine damage.
brian2sun
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I agree, bad cats don't usually cause long-term engine damage, but a poor running engine can definitely cause cat damage.
Do you know what the specific code is? Because I would like to know that for my own information. I have never come across a definitive code that distinguishes between the individual exhaust components, but only codes that will say too rich or too lean condition, cat efficiency below threshold, etc.. But never the exact cause. If this truck were in Cali, IMO it would be virtually worthless until this issue is cleared up.
Lugnuts001
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Fireball
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Dude - you are buying this car for fun. You shouldn't have to talk yourself into buying it.
Sure it's a rare combination and you might have to wait a bit, but once you find the right one you'll never be sorry that you had to wait to find it. Buy this POS and I guarantee you the first bolt that breaks you'll be wishing you waited.
004Gunner makes some very good points as well re: additional reasons to pass on this one. When the right one comes along, you'll know it and snatch it up!
Sure it's a rare combination and you might have to wait a bit, but once you find the right one you'll never be sorry that you had to wait to find it. Buy this POS and I guarantee you the first bolt that breaks you'll be wishing you waited.
004Gunner makes some very good points as well re: additional reasons to pass on this one. When the right one comes along, you'll know it and snatch it up!
Gumballf355
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I'm with fireball and the rest... rusty 4runners are a no-go.
JohnsD90
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If it was just rust its a good deal, but i only looked at the pictures i didnt realize there were other problems.
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