New 3rd Gen owner with a P0171

mremer

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Hi all - new here, and this be my second post (arr?) - I just purchased a 1999 Limited with 102,000 miles - its in great shape (aside from this) and was a great deal (provided this issue does'nt end up clearing out my bank account).

First problems: After I left the lot it "hesitated" badly - about 1.5 miles down the road the CEL came on. :cry2: I returned to the dealer and they pulled the code (I wish I wrote it down) and they told me that it was most likely due to the work the detail department did (the completely cleaned the engine compartment) - they cleared the code, checked other things and it seemed to run better (but never "right") - having dealt with CEL/ECU/OBDII I knew I needed to wait a full "cycle" for the ECU to "relearn" and accepted that it would not feel right - after 1 day the CEL came back on, this time a P0171 (wrote it down this time) - the mechanic at the dealer told me this code was different from the first one and he proceeded to check vacuum lines, look for leaks, etc. He reset the CEL and told me to bring it back if it happened again.

THE NEXT DAY it happened again (and during this whole time it was never running right); The code is the same and after reading through the forums I'm going to try to clean the MAF before taking it back to the dealer. I have the AutoEnginuity Scan Tool product so I can pull all sorts of information in real time from the ECU - if anyone can think of something else I can look at (temp, psi, load, etc...) let me know - I do plan on getting a Hayes/Chilton book but until I do I'm going to rely on the input of my new friends - hopefully!

Addendum: I read somewhere about "soft" brakes being a sign of a vacuum leak - the brakes ARE somewhat soft and "sticky" if that makes any sense...

Thanks for whatever you can offer! I have been a member of Pontiac, Chevy and VW forums in the past and I am excited to be with a new group of people!
 
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Clean the MAF first, and make sure its nice and dry before you install it and start up the car.

If it still feels sluggish, I would recommend buying a new Toyota MAF. That should fix the problem. From being on Toyota forums for the last 7-8 years 95% of the P0171 are fixed with the MAF being cleaned or replaced.
 
Hi all - new here, and this be my second post (arr?) - I just purchased a 1999 Limited with 102,000 miles - its in great shape (aside from this) and was a great deal (provided this issue does'nt end up clearing out my bank account).

First problems: After I left the lot it "hesitated" badly - about 1.5 miles down the road the CEL came on. :cry2: I returned to the dealer and they pulled the code (I wish I wrote it down) and they told me that it was most likely due to the work the detail department did (the completely cleaned the engine compartment) - they cleared the code, checked other things and it seemed to run better (but never "right") - having dealt with CEL/ECU/OBDII I knew I needed to wait a full "cycle" for the ECU to "relearn" and accepted that it would not feel right - after 1 day the CEL came back on, this time a P0171 (wrote it down this time) - the mechanic at the dealer told me this code was different from the first one and he proceeded to check vacuum lines, look for leaks, etc. He reset the CEL and told me to bring it back if it happened again.

THE NEXT DAY it happened again (and during this whole time it was never running right); The code is the same and after reading through the forums I'm going to try to clean the MAF before taking it back to the dealer. I have the AutoEnginuity Scan Tool product so I can pull all sorts of information in real time from the ECU - if anyone can think of something else I can look at (temp, psi, load, etc...) let me know - I do plan on getting a Hayes/Chilton book but until I do I'm going to rely on the input of my new friends - hopefully!

Addendum: I read somewhere about "soft" brakes being a sign of a vacuum leak - the brakes ARE somewhat soft and "sticky" if that makes any sense...

Thanks for whatever you can offer! I have been a member of Pontiac, Chevy and VW forums in the past and I am excited to be with a new group of people!

Car salesmen will always use that line whenever there is a CEL on one of their cars. When my girlfriend was buying her CR-V, the guy tried using it and I called him out on it, knowing that it was a valve adjustment that needed to be done. Doesn't sound like you have a huge problem on your hands, but I just thought that you should know for future reference. I'd take it back and make them fix the problem once you find out for sure what it is.
 
Car salesmen will always use that line whenever there is a CEL on one of their cars. When my girlfriend was buying her CR-V, the guy tried using it and I called him out on it, knowing that it was a valve adjustment that needed to be done. Doesn't sound like you have a huge problem on your hands, but I just thought that you should know for future reference. I'd take it back and make them fix the problem once you find out for sure what it is.

Excellent catch. Knowing what I know now, one of my next purchases for my vehicle will be an OBDII reader (actually, will probably just get a Scangauge II). The local dealer isn't known for their honesty.
 
The dealer I purchased it from is a friend of mine and I watched them drive it over from detailing so I suppose it could be a "line" but I'm willing to give this guy the benefit of the doubt.

I pulled and cleaned the MAF sensor (twas dirty indeed) - took her for a spin and WOW - what a difference. Hopefully it will "stick" which brings me to my next question - back when tooled around with the Pontiac Bonneville the ECU had a learning period before the CEL came back on (Excluding misfire) - it was like drive 0-30 in 10 seconds, drive at 50mph+ for 10 minutes, drive for 25-35 for 7.5 minutes, back up twice, click your heels...and then MAGIC - is there a similar process with the 4runner, or am I free and clear now?

Thanks BajaRunner!
 

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