I'll let you know once the correct one gets here and I install it lol The (wrong) one that I ordered looks very well built, comes with a sealing washer, and seems very well built. I plan on taking it by Lowes before install so I can find a short length of tube for oil changes. With the size of the hole in the stock skid plate I feel like I'll get my arm covered in engine oil reaching up to flip the valve.
Note to self: take off rear skid plate BEFORE changing the oil.
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JoeT4R
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So 1.) can you still run it without using a tube for oil changes? and 2.) I don't run a front skid, which is what makes me reeeeeally hesitant to try it out. I don't wanna press my luck and potentially run the risk of catastrophic failure God forbid some kind of weird crazy accident happens!
Tube not required, and I plan on removing the extra tubing between oil changes. The tubing should also help with minimizing oil splash. The engine oil drain plug looks fairly tucked up in there without any skids so I don't foresee any issues compared with the stock drain plug. If you want an even shorter option they do make one without the hose attachment on the bottom: F-133: Original Oil Drain Valve With M12-1.25.
jgue467
Senior Member
I just tuck my tube up there, nbd. Even without a skid, the vehicle would have to smack a large rock up there, but who goes offroading without skids and lets a rock do that, after all you do have the steering wheel in hand, no???
I use these valves on all my vehicles with a hose left attached/tucked away, never had any issues and it is so much faster, neater, cleaner to drain oil, so EZ.
I use these valves on all my vehicles with a hose left attached/tucked away, never had any issues and it is so much faster, neater, cleaner to drain oil, so EZ.
JoeT4R
Senior Member
How would you go about torquing it during install?
Endlessblockades
Senior Member
Hand tight + 1/8 to 1/4 turn. it's a plug not a fastener, so it's not under a lot of stress. Just don't overdo it. The good thing is you only need to install it one time, saving wear and tear on your pan threads and eliminating a future cross-threading......
Edit - no crush washer hunt every oil change either
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JoeT4R
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Word. Suppose it would be something I would need to check on a regular basis for it potentially backing out. Just makes me nervous. When I was a lot younger, I did accidentally strip my oil drain pan and had to get it replaced. Man was that a headache. I do like the idea of preventing wear and tear on the threads though.
Endlessblockades
Senior Member
Looking back at some of these threads, I realize I'm sounding like some kind of Fumoto evangelist, but I'm not saying it's a must-have thing at all. What it mainly does for me is gets me to change my oil more frequently than I might otherwise because it's quite a bit easier to drain by hand with a hose that goes right into the receptacle. I would not be worried about the valve backing out any more than the stock plug.
shadow247
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I have a Fumoto on my wife's Subaru. I have changed the oil 4 times now. It's a simple affair now. I literally drain straight to the waste container and don't have to worry about the drain pan or any splashing at all.
If only these 3rd gens had a better Oil filter design. I really need to grab a form-a-funnel, but I never do. I need to get my buddy to 3d print something that will work.
I haven't put a Fumoto on my 3rd gen yet, but I think I will next oil change.
JoeT4R
Senior Member
Agreed on the better oil filter design. I like the idea of it being screwed in upside down, if that makes sense. My wife's 2016 Civic's oil filter is like that and its beautiful.
So I think I may get one, but now my question is: nipple or no nipple?
phattyduck
Elite Member
First of all, get a front skid on there. I'd be way more worried about that unprotected plastic radiator than I would be about a piece of brass that is tucked up higher than the bottom of the radiator.
Get the one with the nipple. Even if you don't use it, it won't get in the way.
I leave the hose just barely sticking out of the skid plate 100% of the the time. If it gets ripped off, I'll just replace the hose. The valve itself is way protected up there.
-Charlie
Pyral
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Just do the bag trick I mentioned earlier, you'll need to put the filter in a ziploc anyway when you recycle it.
96RedRunner
Senior Member
Rear skid and fuel filter skid don't do much both taken off left off, running without front skid a stick could ruin your day.
Been considering Fumoto valve since they gained popularity, I don't like the nipple running up into oil pan keeps
you from getting all the oil/gunk out of pan. Kind of OCD but over the long haul you'd have a buildup.
Like 3bears said there are worse filters out there, I've done it enough times now as long as I didn't tighten filter too tight it a piece a cake. Cardboard under the area and brakeclean is part of oil change.
Been considering Fumoto valve since they gained popularity, I don't like the nipple running up into oil pan keeps
you from getting all the oil/gunk out of pan. Kind of OCD but over the long haul you'd have a buildup.
Like 3bears said there are worse filters out there, I've done it enough times now as long as I didn't tighten filter too tight it a piece a cake. Cardboard under the area and brakeclean is part of oil change.
Endlessblockades
Senior Member
The nipple is outside the pan for an optional hose to attach to, not protruding up into the oil pan (if I understand when you are suggesting).
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96RedRunner
Senior Member
Threaded nipple is 1/2"-5/8" long subtract thickness of pan and crush washer what's left protrudes into pan,
there's oil and sludge left behind with every oil change.
Endlessblockades
Senior Member
OK - I see what you are saying. i will drain with valve and then pull the valve next time and see what more comes out. If it's measurable, then you may have a point. Sludge isn't coming out on its own, regardless.
phattyduck
Elite Member
Methinks you need to look inside the oil pan. There is a welded nut (basically) that protrudes just as far into the pan as the Fumoto valve. You aren't losing any ability to drain the oil or gunk out.
-Charlie
96RedRunner
Senior Member
I'd be interested in hearing the results won't be much oil left behind but some not knocking throwing out
first thoughts I had using it priority for getting one like the idea.
Sludge not coming out on it's own yep.
Spray tube that comes with can of brakeclean can be heated with Bic bend offset in it
spray inner sides and bottom of pan see what comes out, chit you do after buying
200k mi ride with questionable maint. records, Ha.
96RedRunner
Senior Member
I'll do that, no further than I've looked was thinking the threaded nut plate was like 1/8"- 3/16" thick or so reason for fine threads on plug. Might get convinced to go with it.
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