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From what it looks like, the Sport Edition is dead. However, the hood scoop might appear on the Trail Edition.
Official picture of 2010 4runner!
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From what it looks like, the Sport Edition is dead. However, the hood scoop might appear on the Trail Edition.
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ToyTech99
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Looks like the guys selling leveling lifts will still be in business for years to come. The 5th gen still looks squashed down in the front just like the 4th gen. But to make matters worse, the new front fascia on the 5th gen looks quite a bit closer to the ground. I wonder what the approach angle is on these things? It can't be as good as the 4th gen, judging by the pics.
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Can anyone confirm that the rear retracting window will still be available on the 5th gen? The reason I ask is because it almost seems like the rear window angle is too steep to retract in the profile picture posted above. In other words, the rear window would have to be nearly vertical in order for it to retract. So now these new pictures have me wondering...
Thai
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Well, i think that you guys need to wait for the final specs and features to come out before making assumptions. Pictures are good if you are looking for general appearance. Judging specs from these early pictures is useless because a lot of these pre-production mulls do not have the final suspension adjusted/calibrated yet.
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Odds are that these pictures are completely accurate in terms of stance/ride height/rake. I was hoping that Toyota was going to reduce a little bit of the discrepancy in wheel well gap between front and rear. The pre-production spy pics made me even more hopeful because some of them looked like they were reducing the rake a bit. But it seems to me that just about all new SUVs have a decent amount of rake designed in (probably more for to meet crash standards than anything else), just not as much as Toyota designs into the 4Runner.
If you look at any of the newer Jeep Grand Cherokees or Commanders, you'll see they have some rake as well, along with a bunch of other SUVs. Toyota just chooses to have more rake in the 4Runner for some strange reason. You really don't see it as much on most other Toyota SUVs. Oh well, at least it's an easy fix, but still one that shouldn't need to be done in the first place.
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Really? I think the 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee is one of the best looking new SUVs I've ever seen. The ironic thing to me is that Toyota talked about the 5th gen going "back to it's roots", yet in my opinion the 2011 Grand Cherokee looks like it went more back to it's own roots from a styling perspective.
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QUOTE=davidn71;446300]not really sure what to think of the pics. Kinda looks too much like a hylander from the front w/ the slanted headlights. (not that I dislike the hylander) Definately boxier than the 4th gen. I guess we'll have to see when it's sitting in front of me.[/QUOTE]
Seeing the pix, it first reminded me of the new Honda Pilot in overall shape and "quick" look. It does appear that Toyota increased the lower body mass and raised the belt line (smaller vertical window area). If they lowered the seat, then they could get more head room.
It looks good, although, in my personal opinion-I'm not humble, not as distinctive as the 4th gen (but then I'm biased), being a recent 4Runner owner. I do like the turn indicators in the mirrors.
If Toyota was truely interested in returning to their roots, they would make the A/T, A/C and power windows optional, ditch the power mirrors and door locks, and other weighty equipment, and make the 4Runner lean and mean--more suited to rigors of off-roading and trail driving. My TE, for instance, has a sun/moon roof, a somewhat useless navigation screen, power almost everything, roof rack, tubular bar steps, spoiler, etc. not condusive to going off road, locking rear-end notwithstanding. Keep the water-resistant seats, they are cool.
Bill W
Seeing the pix, it first reminded me of the new Honda Pilot in overall shape and "quick" look. It does appear that Toyota increased the lower body mass and raised the belt line (smaller vertical window area). If they lowered the seat, then they could get more head room.
It looks good, although, in my personal opinion-I'm not humble, not as distinctive as the 4th gen (but then I'm biased), being a recent 4Runner owner. I do like the turn indicators in the mirrors.
If Toyota was truely interested in returning to their roots, they would make the A/T, A/C and power windows optional, ditch the power mirrors and door locks, and other weighty equipment, and make the 4Runner lean and mean--more suited to rigors of off-roading and trail driving. My TE, for instance, has a sun/moon roof, a somewhat useless navigation screen, power almost everything, roof rack, tubular bar steps, spoiler, etc. not condusive to going off road, locking rear-end notwithstanding. Keep the water-resistant seats, they are cool.
Bill W
Thai
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Different manufactuerers have different ways to comply with the car crash compatibility. Jeep's way is to place a crossmember low in the front and hide it behind a skidplate. Many Jeepers just cut this crossmember...i think that the one on the Wrangler is removeable too. 4runner's design may also enhance handling beyond the crash compatibility factor. The low front end design may improve crush zone effectiveness by allowing more of the front end to absorb the energy when the 4runner crashes into a Miata. With the Jeep design, the major forces are not dispersed as well maybe because only the lower crossmembers are in contact with the smaller vehicle?? Just my wild guesses. Jeep Grand Cherokee's crash testing results are far from spectacular...and unibodies usually crash test better than body-on-frame designs! Hopefully, the new Jeep GC will do better. 4runners have been near the top or at the top throughout recent history dating back to 1996.
The ONLY way a modern SUV can pass crash regulations AND have a balanced look is to have air/adjustable suspension systems. This way, the suspension would be low on-road and can be adjusted high for off-road use. But, of course, with air suspension, you have to deal with higher ownership costs and decrease reliability/durability. (Even Lexus air suspension systems are not without issues!)
Thai
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Remember, there is ONLY one REAL Jeep...Wrangler. The rest are pure unibodied junk...Jeep is living on past reputation for off-road (similar to Land Rover).
4Runner8
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the jeep is too sleek and luxurious looking for a trail rig but its still nice though.
jmc8387
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Currently the Lexus SC430 has a power antenna. Its the only one I can think of. I actually like power antennas. Not a fan of the black mast rods though. Which in these pictures, it looks like a mast antenna thats not retractable.
borgzman
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IMO, the 5th Gen 4Runner looks better - stock vs stock...
The Jeep in that pic have AT tires on. Putting an AT shoes will make a vehicle dramatically look bad ass.
Can't wait to see the 5th Gen with AT/MT tires and leveling lifts. And as for the "back to its roots" am also confused, is it because of the the antenna??
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