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I have a sense of justice.

Even if it means nothing, I don't feel like encouraging bad behavior.

I figure my name is worth more than 125 bucks.

Why yes, you're right! It is worth more than $125 and it does mean something. Since all of my, yours, and everyone elses data is pooled, categorized, sold, traded, resold, ect. to marketing profilers. If you have an extra 47 minutes watch the show, its "free" LOL.
 
I have a question: What about the responsibility of the drivers?... Holy hell, put it in neutral and hit the brakes.

I agree with you. I would also add that the news coverage plays a large role in dramatizing and sensationalizing stories like this. People see and read those stories, accept the drama as fact, and believe that all Toyotas suffer from this universal and unpreventable defect. I understand that drama sells, I just wish there was a little more effort by the public to seek out the facts rather than rely on the story told on television.

As for the lawyers? It's a flawed system that makes to far too easy for greedy individuals to get a huge payday.
 
..... As for the lawyers? It's a flawed system that makes to far too easy for greedy individuals to get a huge payday.

Greed and opportunism are by no means the sole territory of attorneys. It's pervasive.

Car dealers will hose you on financing, grossly upsell the naive in the service dept (I sat 2 hrs in the service waiting area yesterday and heard 6 attempts to sell "induction cleaning service" just from oil changes. Financial advisors sell way wrong instruments just to get a commission. Retail appliance stores always want to sell maintenance agreements for way too much. Ah well, it could be an entire thread.

Caveat emptor.
 
The real issue is here on this website, in this forum, on these boards: Self-righteous, holier-than-thou people who jump at every opportunity to denigrate and harass others whose views, ideas, or actions that they don't agree with. You want to opt out? Fine. Don't want to opt out but don't want the money? Fine? Happy to have the money? Fine. So WTF is the problem? Do what you want. But just shut up and quit tearing down other members.
 
The real issue is here on this website, in this forum, on these boards: Self-righteous, holier-than-thou people who jump at every opportunity to denigrate and harass others whose views, ideas, or actions that they don't agree with. You want to opt out? Fine. Don't want to opt out but don't want the money? Fine? Happy to have the money? Fine. So WTF is the problem? Do what you want. But just shut up and quit tearing down other members.
Is this your first internet forum? This place is very tame. Stay away from Pirate4x4.

If you think something's over the line, complain to a mod, or feel free not to participate.
 
The real issue is here on this website, in this forum, on these boards: Self-righteous, holier-than-thou people who jump at every opportunity to denigrate and harass others whose views, ideas, or actions that they don't agree with. You want to opt out? Fine. Don't want to opt out but don't want the money? Fine? Happy to have the money? Fine. So WTF is the problem? Do what you want. But just shut up and quit tearing down other members.
Dude, you really need help.
 
The real issue is here on this website, in this forum, on these boards: Self-righteous, holier-than-thou people who jump at every opportunity to denigrate and harass others whose views, ideas, or actions that they don't agree with. You want to opt out? Fine. Don't want to opt out but don't want the money? Fine? Happy to have the money? Fine. So WTF is the problem? Do what you want. But just shut up and quit tearing down other members.


2013 Trail-

I'm totally with you. It's kinda pathetic really.
 
If you think something's over the line, complain to a mod, or feel free not to participate.

Couldn't the exact same thing be said of the OP's original question Jeremy? After all Froggy merely asked if any other members members received $125. Yet some people didn't complain to a mod or not participate. On the contrary they chose to denigrate the OP, and anyone else who didn't equally dislike the class action case against Toyota.

Toyota owners had the legal right not to participate by opting out. (They also would have had the right to initiate their own suit and not been a part of the class that was certified by the courts to represent owners). I haven't seen seen a single post where someone states they opted out with the court. Yet we have a lot of bitter complaints, such as someone railing his name was used.

Then we have the personal shots, like mocking someone as "Dude" then upping the ante by saying they "really need help." Ironically this was for the terrible crime of 13Trail telling people to make their own choice on taking, or not taking, the money, but just "quit tearing down other members."

Several posters, like [MENTION=84557]Eagle[/MENTION] and [MENTION=106410]Ghetro[/MENTION], did a commendable job of laying out the principal facts on this case, and pointed out the settlement was a good financial deal for Toyota. Does anyone seriously believe a company worth tens of billions of dollars didn't have accountants and attorneys making sure any settlement cost less than alternatives?

I'm a huge supporter of free speech and if someone thinks it's a good idea to call out someone you don't agree with by mocking them, and implying they need a mental health professional...fair enough. In the end however that won't change the fact it's hard to feel sorry for Toyota here.

They had the opportunity to minimize things with a recall early on, but resisted for years. Ultimately a family was burned alive in an accident where multiple people observed the driver desperately trying to regain control of a Lexus with the brakes literally flaming. The smoking gun? The last renter returned the vehicle and complained the accelerator was sticking. Worse the driver was recorded "our accelerator is stuck...there's no brakes...we're approaching the intersection...hold on...hold on and pray."

Even after this public relations disaster Toyota still insisted nothing was really wrong, which effectively accused a dead man, unable to defend himself, of killing his family in a gruesome death. What numskull thought that was a good idea?? The decision to ignore auto analysts' suggestion to do a recall early on was stupidly wrong. Then a resulting Congressional investigation was devastating. Had Toyota had done the recall up front as analysts advised them to?

No Congress, no photos of Toyota executives being sworn in, no swarm of media coverage retelling the story over and over, and no huge spike in public awareness and concern. At the end of the day issuing $125. checks was a business decision, to make up for a terrible previous business decision. In business sometimes you win...sometimes you lose. This time Toyota lost big, and taking it out on fellow members isn't going to change the fact Toyota is culpable for how things turned out.
 
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" Happy to have the Money" about sums up the state of "our" country's collective generation a-hole "entitlement' mentality.
Toyota never has represented anything to me other than a possible purchase of choice with no guarantee of anything other than - reputation . Reputation of pretty damn good reliability IF I did my part.
No check in the mail or free money for me. $125 ?? - No Thanks, I'll go actually work another Hour.
I actually worked to get to where I can make my $$. Anyway, Whatever - If an explanation is needed - no explanation is possible.
 
Can someone please tell me what all of this bashing has to do with a toyota 4runner?

If someone disagrees with someone else's view then let them be. No need to get any panties in a wad and start bashing. If anyone has a beef then take it up via pm's and keep it between yourselves.
 
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